FBI Agent Goes Public With Russian Intelligence Operation That Hooked Musk And Thiel
a year ago by disguy_ovahea to c/broligarchywatch
He will be prosecuted. The agent that is.
Join the kitten revolution. The more we flood the internet with cats the less misinformation can seep into the minds of children. We need an impenetrable cat wall. Build it strong build it high.
My kid wants a cat hella bad now because of the memes, and I’m super allergic to them. Plus we just got a puppy and he needs tons of training before we add another animal to the mix.
Also the puppy is cute as fuck.
What are you suggesting? It's not like he's presented any tangible evidence.
No worries I can help with that you silly disinformation spreading moron. Sourced from Reddit;
For people asking for other sources: https://www.newyorker.com/...
It's this agent, who was involved in investigating Hunter Biden and Rudy Giuliani. He turned whistleblower after charging that FBI leadership and Bill Barr squashed the investigation into Giuliani.
His house was raided in 2023: https://www.newsweek.com/...
he resigned right as he was arrested in 2025: https://www.pbs.org/...
his court cases pending, he's writing a book, running for congress
and he did a recent interview with Germany media, where he made the claims about Musk and Thiel that are in the foreign news (not covered much by US media)
This 2023 article claims Thiel was an informant / source for Buma
you silly disinformation spreading moron.
What disinformation did I spread, you McCarthyist sack of shit?
And all of those links confirm what I said: he's made accusations, but presented no tangible evidence.
This is just pizzagate for libs
America is not a democracy. It never was a democracy. Even CIA agent analysts are referring to the United States as an autocracy. I believe that... It is a bourgeois liberal democracy, which is not a democracy in my opinion. People who climb up in the hierarchy all do bad things things that we would be disgusted by both parties are equally corrupt. Capitalism is destroying the planet. And I'm really tired of the back and forth. We have no control. It's either Coke or Pepsi. The beatings will continue until the morale improves. I do enjoy when the rich tattle tale on each other, but I am disgusted by how the people digest the information.
French style revolution is the only solution
Not without French Revolution numbers. They had an estimated 8% of their population in the resistance. In our nation of 340M, that would be ~27M people. We can barely break 5M nationally in protests.
If we tried something that stupid now, we’d be inviting the same fate as the German resistance against the Nazis. Engaging more of the ~270M people who aren’t protesting, but do not support Trump, is the focus. Throwing bricks and losing good people to imprisonment only fortifies fascism and weakens our resistance.
The tipping point for seeming many of the populous movements across history is that about 12%ish is the critical mass for the issue to become mainstream. Conservatives seem to know this as they have their MAGA minority and limit access to voting so the small percentage becomes blown out of proportion and takes over.
A smaller scale example are the "Liberty" parents who are banning books and hating on a school curriculum that they have never experienced. They don't have the national grip that they do on their smaller scale community so book bans seem to be less reported and small attractions than neo-nazi pride marches, which garnered more support across the country during elections.
A left wing example is the ACA vs Single-Payer/universal healthcare. Many voices got Medicare passed but not as many voices were present to champion a better solution. There are simply more people who understand Medicare than Universal coverage, and that confusion isn't about the benefits. The limited folks who can voice their opinions are the ones who follow the economics of it while the simpler folks just want to get on with their day and don't have the bandwidth to soak up economic theory while they investigate healthcare too.
The key is to build a small but loud clique in many areas that can amplify the minority message. It's the same reason there are neo-nazi marches. Gotta get that awareness up. Being present is enough to make people ask White Replacement Theory questions so why not be present and question oligarchy and foreign money influence.l?
I could not agree more. As well as protesting, we need to abolish the social mores against discussing politics in polite company. Talk to people in person. Get them to question what’s happening. In the age of social media silos, people who were previously politically disengaged will not suddenly start seeing messages about our crumbling democracy. It is up to us to engage them.
Just remember the right wing hogs and the left wing hogs at the top are one in the same. Neoliberalism is a right-wing ideology and outsiders who live in like Europe see the United States as a right-wing country. Right-wingers are the useful idiots of empire. Or should I say fascist are the useful idiots of Empire. It is simply just divide and rule.
Notice how when asked to actually back up your claim, you just started telling people to "piss off" over and over again, like the bot you are?
Read the Mueller report. Look into Roger Stone & Donald Trump mentored by Roy Cohn, you know McCarthy's right hand guy? Lavender Scare guy? The guy you're trying to accuse me of?
And instead of reading ANY articles you wanna argue.
Piss off disinformation idiot. You lose.
Read the Mueller report.
I have, it didn't provide any of the evidence you claim, hence why you can't actually point to any.
Look into Roger Stone & Donald Trump mentored by Roy Cohn
I have, it didn't provide any of the evidence you claim, hence why you can't actually point to any.
The guy you’re trying to accuse me of?
"I can't be doing McCarthism because Roy Cohn was McCarthy's guy!" Incoherent reasoning.
And instead of reading ANY articles you wanna argue.
I've read them, and they don't contain what you say. Hence why you can't actually back up your point and are reduced to endlessly acting like a looping bot.
Piss off disinformation idiot. You lose.
Please point to any disinformation I've posted.
"You lose"
This person has not read the Mueller report, which basically says "If we had the power to charge the president with a crime, we would, but we don't, so we're referring this to the attorney general since that is his job"
And then Bill Barr farted on it and trump bragged about being exonerated.
Joe Biden and his crackhead son did deals with Ukrainian companies. There was a conflict of interest, like with all these fucking pieces of shit. Now the cheeseburger kings the president and he's doing all types of crazy shit and the lib turds are all on it like flies on shit. You guys haven't figured it out yet. The rich eat at the same table, and sometimes they have food fights, but you're crawling around on the floor. Eating the crumbs.
Always the same dumb shit from the same dumb people.
Back door deals are always gonna happen and Biden getting his son a deal with Ukraine is nothing, Biden didn't even talk to them about it the only boost he got was in last name only and the dude didn't sign up to be Biden. Yeah looks scummy on paper, fuckin CUTE in comparison to Bush nepotism and Trump nepotism yeah piss off about it. That's such a nonstory. Oh no rich people get rich wow!
No. Trump is a literal human trafficker with decades of recorded behavior and numerous sources and trails of information that paint a very clear picture
If him being Roy Cohn's pet means nothing to you, you already know nothing.
Musk and Thiel were already assholes. Someone just helped them amplify their worse qualities.
I don't see China trying to cultivate their stupidness
China does it for the entire country via TikTok.
Could be. But it's not something I would put money on.
This is one of those things that angry people on the left want to be true, just like angry people on the right want all of the Q-anon trash to be true. This is one of those things that feeds directly into conspiratorial thinking. Anything that sounds too good to be true, isn't sourced, and isn't published in a reputable source should immediately make you suspicious. No one is immune to propaganda.
Also: which outlet was it that was publishing all of the claims that Putin had some kind of highly-aggressive, fatal cancer, that he was dying, that he was trying to complete the defeat of Ukraine prior to dying? That was, like, two years ago? That didn't pan out at all, and it was the same thing; none of the reputable news sources were picking that one up.
If the information can be confirmed can we just go hard on this no matter the optics? Sure, it will be an uphill battle but all the stuff we never litigated because of the bill barr letter is sitting in plain sight.
I don't believe it. Not these guys are good or whatever, but being Russian agents is a stretch. There may be common interest without being an agent of the evil Russian regime. Musk and Thiel are playing for themselves, not for the Russians and if they need to side with them to reach their goal, they will. To some extent, how can we be sure trying to paint them as Moscow's agents isn't the game Putin is playing to destabilize the USA?
Never said anything about them being Russian spies, just that they are being influenced and there is evidence to prove it.
Oh yes. This is all part of Russia masterful campaign to get us to distrust Thiel and Musk. See how dumb that sounds.
This guy is giving up his career over this, so that gives some credence for me at least. I do agree that it is hard to tell what is real with all the disinformation going around.
Ever seen Borat Subsequent Moviefilm? I believe that accidentally showed a window into what was going on in the scene with Giovanni. Remember the one where he clearly thought the young woman who was there to interview him on camera was actually there to have sex with him (still on camera)?
Careful, I have multiple angry people stalking my comment history now for questioning this claim.
The main secret is that Russia doesn't have that many really "secret agents".
They have "ambassador agents" being ignorant of whose identity is better for you, but that identity is not secret in any way.
Just if you are a plebe taking interest, they might simply kill you and the police won't do anything. Or invent something better, gaslighting Stasi-style, if killing is too boring for them.
Musk and Thiel are not the type.
"Hooked Musk and Thiel." Shut the fuck up. If they still wield power in this country, they have not been hooked or in any way dealt with.
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!:
The FBI while under (insert opposing team here) knew full and well that (insert opposing team here) was dealing with (insert current American boogerman here) and is now speaking out!!
Man, these fucking people REALLY don't want to be helpful when it would be most effective. Only when it's most attention grabbing.
Mueller and Comey did trump and you see how well that worked...
What your notifications look like when you ask McCarthyists for evidence.
So, did you do it? Looks like all they want is you to quote what you said was in the thread.... Should take your galaxy brain a minute, maybe 5 tops.
Narrator: He did not
No he did not. Came back and necro'd the thread 6 hrs later.
Hit the max comment depth for the first time on Lemmy, so that is a new one for me.
Love a story with no details or corroborating evidence, based on one anonymous source.
So you didn’t believe anything that Snowden said was possible either? This isn’t a conviction. It’s just a lead.
Julian Assange and Snowden are characters who reveal the inner workings of the deep state. They are nonpartisan and it should reveal how the sausage is made and how you fit in that sausage.
It's not even a lead, it's an anonymous accusation with no specifics.
Sorry. I didn’t realize you meant the agent was anonymous and not the source.
The agent is Jonathan Buma. His arrest was made public at the time of the initial leak. Now we’re just hearing some more details.
Ah ok, the kyivInsider article didn't name him so I assumed he was an anonymous.
Well, he isn't an anonymous source, but it is still just an uncorroborated accusation with little if any details.
You must still question if Watergate happened, with it being based off an anonymous source and all.
Watergate had evidence
You might want to check that box. It seems empty.
You might want to check your skull. It seems empty.
For people asking for other sources:
It's this agent, who was involved in investigating Hunter Biden and Rudy Giuliani. He turned whistleblower after charging that FBI leadership and Bill Barr squashed the investigation into Giuliani.
His house was raided in 2023: https://www.newsweek.com/...
he resigned right as he was arrested in 2025: https://www.pbs.org/...
his court cases pending, he's writing a book, running for congress
and he did a recent interview with Germany media, where he made the claims about Musk and Thiel that are in the foreign news (not covered much by US media)
This 2023 article claims Thiel was an informant / source for Buma
Well then that just makes it curious that the linked article cited absolutely no sources when there is evidence available. Even if this story is apparently true I would trust absolutely nothing from that site.
Lmfao no sources? I just linked you a variety of articles from various sources outlining a very clear timeline of events. The source is the literal guy investigating the situation, what do you mean no sources? He's claiming the department he works in isn't doing their job and he's claiming someone is a Russian plant. Let's step back and consider the following;
Everything Trump does parrots Russian sentiment from pressure on Ukraine to harassing our allies about tariffs.
Trump's history with the Russian Mafia and Giuliani. Probably don't know this but Giuliani had a lot of praise for how he handled the Italian Mafia in New York, he swapped them for the Russian mob. You literally see this happen in media too, the Italian Mafia fades away as the bad guy and is replaced by the Russians: see Kickass, John Wick, etc. Reflects the cultural change.
Trump's history as Roy Cohn's second, alongside Roger Stone who oddly got Bush elected in 2000 with help from the Proto-Proud Boys. Roy Cohn is a character that outlines everything the Republican party embraces today.
His consistent relationship with known pedophiles and human trafficking from his weird pageants to his relationship with Epstein and the numerous claims of abuse from many many sources.
The Mueller report outlines his entire relationship with Russians with support from the Steele Dossier.
This agent himself has clearly been trying to get a message across, he hasn't been allowed to present his case and has clearly been harassed by the administration.
Nepotism, cronyism, relationship with folk like Paul Manafort, Maria Butina and Michael Cohen who is Trump's longtime lawyer and has in court spoken of most of this.
The fuck more evidence you want? Trump's nuts in your mouth after he raped a child? A video of him and Putin admitting to everything? Like you people are complete baboons and nobody is buying your shit lmfao c'mon man
First of all, I'm not reading all that. Second, I was talking about the article linked by op. That article had no sources. (I'm now explaining this for the second time) If there are plenty of sources, as in the ones YOU linked, I'm questioning why the article that is the subject of this post was written citing absolutely nothing. It was a shitty article devoid of anything resembling journalism.
I wasn't coming at you, I was coming at the shitty site with the shitty article linked by op.
So what's the actual evidence consist of?
LoL. The bots don’t like your reasonable expectation.
Yup; asking for evidence is treason.
Usual suspects come to Russia's rescue
Thanks for your input, senator McCarthy
K. Not what I meant, and you know it.
Even the capitalist fight amongst themselves, just remember there is no war but the class war. Ukraine wants the war to continue, at least it's ruling elite. Who are the puppets of the Yankee Most likely Trump was shot at by someone that was inspired by Ukrainian intelligence. All of you, without framework, are just little, Manchurian candidates.
Can i get some Russian dressing to go with that word salad?
Really not worth an answer, but I feel I need to give one regardless.
If Russia wanted the war (that they started, yes, you start a war if your military moves across a border and starts shooting) to stop, they would suggest any kind of compromise in negotiations. Russia wants to occupy the Ukraine as a whole. It has no interest in stopping a war that they are not losing.
There might be no war but class war, but the people in the Kremlin are not exactly happy, socialist proletarians. Quite the opposite. From what I hear from people who lived there, Ukraine was a corrupt and poor country, but still leagues better than Russia.
Why would the ruling elite of Ukraine want the war to continue (apparently they have a choice other than surrendering and running away)? So that they might ultimately lose and end up shot by the Russians? Come on, that's stupid.
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The shit is hitting the fan at such a high rate that it can be difficult to keep up. So this is a place to share such news.
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