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m532 52 points 3 years ago

7 tanks, 7 downvotes -> The downvotes are from the tank drivers -> The tank drivers are libs -> libs are tankies

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ComradePupIvy 29 points 3 years ago

I have never seen more flawless logic comrade

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KommandoGZD 24 points 3 years ago

You see, the purpose of the Western tanks wasn't to achieve anything on the battlefield anyway, it was to keep the crews safe so they can come back and downvote these posts

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Navaryn 8 points 3 years ago

it's so funny to see lengths NAFO bots will go to turn everything into a victory.

a tank was supposed to reach x, but it got blown up halfway through? "But the crew (according to our unsubstantiated speculation) made it out! the mission was a total success!"

a pmc fielding an army of untrained convicts took over the most fortified city in europe after systematically dismantling the defenses put up by dozens of thousands of ukrainian servicemen? "we inflicted casualties! 1 to 182748 casualty rate favoring the defender because reddit says so! total win!"

the counteroffensive gets obliterated by KA-52 and fails to even get close to the first defense line? "probing attacks! We got their attention! Huge victory! Heil Hi... ehrm, Slava Ukraini!

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sicaniv 41 points 3 years ago

Marvels of the Advanced Fascist weaponry.

Why are liberals so adamant on financing these weapons for fascists while this much money should be spent on improving their own financial conditions and quality of life?

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m532 18 points 3 years ago

Of course the german nazis send 14 tanks to their fellow nazis. They went mask-off fascist, their colonialism is in shambles, they will be crushed again.

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Shrike502 16 points 3 years ago

Allegedly it was 14 Leopards-2 and 88 Leopards-1. Yeah

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bandarawan 6 points 3 years ago

Yepp. I fucking hate it how we created 100 billion for the military out of thin air, but do not have money for housing, feeding the poor and education.

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knfrmity 9 points 3 years ago

We can't do this because of the poor Bundeshaushalt, we can't have that because the Bundeshaushalt must be balanced, but then it comes to the Bundeswehr and the US imperial managers and the whole rainbow of factions make blue skies rain.

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TWeaK -42 points 3 years ago

Remind me again, how much did Putin's palace cost?

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redtea 38 points 3 years ago

In what way are Dutch and Danish taxpayers being forced to fund said palace? The point of sicaniv's screenshot seems to me to be that western taxpayers are being given no choice but to fund a war they aren't involved in, after 10–40 years of austerity and being told the state can't afford basic services, suddenly there's a bottomless well of cash for tanks.

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TWeaK -34 points 3 years ago

What choice do Russians have in either paying for Putin's palace or dying with outdated equipment?

Suffice it to say, both sides claim they have no money for public services yet suddenly can finance war. The whole war industry is a scam, this has been obvious for more than 100 years now.

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redtea 31 points 3 years ago

I also dislike the military-industrial complex. But that seems to be a different point to the one you made at first. Making it seem as though Russia is at war so that Putin can build a palace doesn't seem accurate.

Russia is not at war to glorify Putin. Although, his estimation does seem to be rising in the eyes of the global south because he is fighting the imperialists who have long oppressed them.

Again, the point you replied to seemed to be talking about indebting Dutch and Danish taxpayers to pay for a war they're not part of. Russia is at war, so it would make sense that Russians will be taxed to pay for it. I agree that this is tragic. Much better for that money to be spent on public services.

But in response to your reply: in general, Russians have very little choice because Russia was forced into a corner by NATO. I'm not sure what you mean by outdated equipment. Outdated by whose standards?

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GrainEater 32 points 3 years ago

houses are generally significantly less expensive than tanks, but in this particular case you'll have to do the research yourself -- feel free to share your findings so we can all be aware of how many parts per million of the annual Russian budget was spent on Putin's house

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TWeaK -33 points 3 years ago

Houses, sure. But we're talking about a mansion the size of a small town where they threw out all the marble they'd already isntalled because it was the wrong colour.

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yearningforfreedom 31 points 3 years ago

Sounds like some Radio Free Europe shit

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GrainEater 28 points 3 years ago

What is your source for that claim? That sounds rather cartoonish

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Addfwyn 14 points 3 years ago

I think you forgot the part where Putin twirled his moustache and laughed manically while watching.

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StugStig 32 points 3 years ago

Remind me again why were Russians forced to adopt a system were business elites could use their capital to exert political power.

That wasn't public money.

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TWeaK -21 points 3 years ago

Erm, Putin made it law in the late 90s that 50% of the wealthiest Russian oligarch's wealth would be under his control. It was their money, they kept the profits, but Putin directed their spending.

Now, Russian oligarchs invest in political enterprise all over the world, more than almost any other nation (excluding the USA, which is simply wealthier).

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GrainEater 15 points 3 years ago

Please share your sources for both of these claims, especially the latter; I would be very surprised if Russian capitalists had more overseas investments than imperialist countries like Canada, the UK and France

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TarkovSurvivor 15 points 3 years ago

Which law was that? The one you made up or the one from up your ass?

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juchebot88 28 points 3 years ago

Nazi alert

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TWeaK -15 points 3 years ago

Wasn't it the Nazis who hoarded public wealth for their own benefit?

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juchebot88 18 points 3 years ago

Something which has never been known to happen in the modern west, specifically in the United States or Ukraine. Nope, not ever.

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sicaniv 6 points 3 years ago

Should I?

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IntoDaLagoon 4 points 3 years ago

Someone ought to find out who put this Putin guy in charge in the first place and give him a spanking 😡

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DesiDebugger 40 points 3 years ago

Dear Libs and Fash,

Cope.

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sovietsnake 37 points 3 years ago

neeeein diese are ruski tanks you tanki dombass

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AmarkuntheGatherer 20 points 3 years ago

As the news of the counteroffensive's failure started pouring in, there was some idiot, I want to say Pistorius but probably not him, saying the tanks weren't german, since they weren't operated in Germany by germans, and that they were instead Ukrainian.

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CommieBeetle 17 points 3 years ago

I think it was Baerbock who said that. Idiotic mindset anyways, just idiotic.

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juchebot88 13 points 3 years ago

"What is German? What is a tank?"

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PolandIsAStateOfMind 6 points 3 years ago

I am tank. Source: me and my tank, which is me.

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Binkie55 31 points 3 years ago

1 downvote already

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juchebot88 23 points 3 years ago

Take my updoot in compensation, kind antifascist stranger

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Drstrange2love 23 points 3 years ago

Two now the bots don't rest

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lemat_87 29 points 3 years ago

I am actually hoping that part of libs will be converted to Dengism by lurking on Lemmygrad 🙂

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RedMarsRepublic 27 points 3 years ago

noooooo it doesn't count, they were operated by inferior slavic beasts

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juchebot88 47 points 3 years ago

Hey now, we don't use that kind of language here, we prefer "relatively civilized, relatively European"

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RedMarsRepublic 37 points 3 years ago

Not anymore, USA is looking for an exit strategy. Expect Ukrainians to be non-European again by the end of the year.

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Addfwyn 11 points 3 years ago

NYT is finally recognizing that the nazi symbology is problematic, and the US has thrown Ukraine under the bus for the nordstream bombing.

Within a year we will start to hear the chorus of "How could we possibly have known that the nazis who said they were nazis were nazis!?"

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Life2Space 18 points 3 years ago

I've never heard of Russians being identified as Slavic beasts, but I have heard "Asiatic horde" and "orcs".

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AmarkuntheGatherer 16 points 3 years ago

Communists just can't get into the fashy mindset enough to come up with believable slurs, it's only natural.

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IntoDaLagoon 14 points 3 years ago

I never thought the Leopards would eat my face a mine

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CannotSleep420 13 points 3 years ago

But don't you know that Ukraine is winning?

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absolutefuckinidiot 12 points 3 years ago

Suffered some morning brain damage reading some of the comments in there sheesh

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Navaryn 11 points 3 years ago

how did these people even end up on here. Like, you won't find me hanging around in neonazi forums for sure. But that would be equivalent to what those people are doing.

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PolandIsAStateOfMind 13 points 3 years ago

Note how reddit invader cheers up the redditisation of lemmy.

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Navaryn 9 points 3 years ago

Oh no! Anyway

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Ozriel 10 points 3 years ago

What i always find funny about capitalist bootlickers , they are so hell bent on invading any M/L spaces online, it is insane the amount of head space marxists occupy in that limited area

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GrainEater 5 points 3 years ago

because their instances federate with us (and lemmy.ml, in this case), unless they stick to local posts only, they'll see posts from many instances and seeing an anti-imperialist opinion presumably gives them a real shock

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PolandIsAStateOfMind 10 points 3 years ago

That article starts from photo of Ukrainian soldiers firing a literal WW1 maxim machine gun while their PM talks about "modernisation" and the libs gloats around about modern AFU and weaponless Russians.

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Navaryn 7 points 3 years ago

Remember that most of them actually believe ua pravda when it says that russians fight with shovels

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PolandIsAStateOfMind 7 points 3 years ago

They still are, every article from it is intensively upvoted on lemmy

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IntoDaLagoon 5 points 3 years ago

Russians fight with shovels but also they're on the verge of overrunning our wholesome wündertech nazi allies.