Stealing food doesn't mean you're immoral, it means society is immoral.
HiddenLayer5 133 points 3 years ago
sep 46 points 3 years ago
Excluding mental disorders. I do not think anybody likes to steal, atleast not initially. They may have normalized it, even to the point where it may become second nature, or a habit. If there is a lot of such peope, society have failed them a long time ago.
HiddenLayer5 48 points 3 years ago
I do not think anybody likes to steal
The rich. It's their entire lifestyle.
newIdentity 1 point 3 years ago
Nah. Some people do it for the kick and because the cashier doesn't care. It's not their job to prevent you from stealing.
But why should anyone steal bread except when they literally can't pay. The ones I know that steal for the kick are stealing chips and smaller sweets. Not normal groceries.
funkless_eck 23 points 3 years ago
*You're.
Can't you be a cold-hearted, miserly, withered, and bitter Scrooge and yet use basic grammar correctly?
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Blackmist 16 points 3 years ago
If they're stealing it to eat, sure.
If they're stealing it so they can sell warm coat meat down the local flat roof pub and spend the proceeds on heroin, then... you probably also want to pretend you didn't see it because you're not paid enough to be stabbed by a junkie with a used syringe.
newIdentity 0 points 3 years ago
You're probably not paid at all
Iusedtobeanadventurer 9 points 3 years ago
Lol, my buddy, who is not a cop but interacts with them fairly regularly for his job, has the punisher logo on his watchface.
He's a good guy but I regularly tease him for it, and some of his viewpoints.
flop_leash_973 82 points 3 years ago
I care less WHY they stole the food. I just find it distasteful when the cops post these "look how bad ass we are" social media posts. Crime, no matter why it was committed, should not be used as someones time to celebrate or the special time before the trial to convince the public that the suspect is guilty via Facebook,etc. Least of all by the group of people who do the arresting.
killa44 24 points 3 years ago
It's because the police view themselves as a "team" that is basically 'playing' against the other team....everyone else. To them, this is a win and shows how good they are. It's quite disturbing how indoctrinated they are and almost nobody realizes it.
nutbiggums 25 points 3 years ago
Now he just sits back and waits on his promotion. Nailed the asshole part of the evaluation
ThatsTheSpirit 63 points 3 years ago
Having to steal food is super tiresome. Would rather not have to, but I've never felt bad about doing it. Imagine that. The normalization of the degradation is my issue personally. Putting people on one side of a moral line based on bullshit economic factors that for the one stealing are a kin to the winds of fate.
Timecircleline 55 points 3 years ago
They weren't even stealing name brand groceries! Lots of those are store brand products.
SomeoneElse 34 points 3 years ago
That caught my eye too, but I think it might be a reflection of how law enforcement speaks “a female suspect” “a male detainee” etc.
DragonTypeWyvern 4 points 3 years ago
Por que no los dos?
An incel pig running their Twitter hardly seems a stretch.
landsharkkidd 5 points 3 years ago
I get that they say "a female" because that's how they "identify" people via police reports and such. But I still cringe so bad when I hear someone say "a female".
Female what? Deer? Shark? Dog?
InputZero 5 points 3 years ago
That's part of it, but police jargon is meant to dehumanize suspects. They could just as easily say man or woman but those words imply person-hood. While animals can be male or female they can't be a man or woman. Male-Black-46 works just as well to describe an animal in a study as a human on the street.
SomeoneElse 21 points 3 years ago
My car was stolen last week. 48 hours later my partner tracked it down and went to get it. The police hadn’t even requested the carpark CCTV in that time. We had to call the police to actually enter the place it was at so we didn’t get arrested for breaking and entering ourselves. The police will count this as their win, their solve even though they did practically nothing. They didn’t even arrest the guy who had our car. As useful as a chocolate teapot.
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HiddenLayer5 21 points 3 years ago
Satire can't even keep up with these bastards.
what_is_a_name 8 points 3 years ago
Serious talk:
If you, or someone you know, is struggling, please use auntbetha.com or findhelp.com (same service) to search for and connect to support in your local area. It’s a free service. Use it.
Criminalising poverty is the most American dystopia ever. We can all help.
SomeoneElse 4 points 3 years ago
Thank you for adding this. I’ll see if I can sticky it to the top for anyone who needs to see it.
zipzoopaboop 7 points 3 years ago
I like how they turned away the lube like no one would notice
TheObserver 2 points 3 years ago
The food i understand but not the rest. Food has become so damn expensive these days.
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themeatbridge 17 points 3 years ago
Bullshit. Shoplifting accounts for less shrinkage than expiring products. We throw away more food than is stolen. Let that sink in. More food goes to a landfill than to shoplifters.
SaakoPaahtaa -24 points 3 years ago path: 0 2380110 2380743 2381084 2386277 2386482, hotness: undefined, score: -24, children: 13
TaterTurnipTulip 10 points 3 years ago
Looks like the corporate propaganda really works well on some people. A large part of the reason for recent price increases is due to corporate profiteering. But sure, blame the people who are stealing a bit of food to survive.
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SomeoneElse 9 points 3 years ago
It’s exactly the same... I just cut off identifying info in line with lemmy’s rules.
subignition 8 points 3 years ago
The original screenshot did not include the reply's likes at the bottom, which is kind of an important detail when the title is explicitly pointing out the ratioing.
SomeoneElse 9 points 3 years ago
I see your point. But the title was taken from the top line of the screenshot. The fact that the reply got 400 more likes than the original doesn’t add anything to the murder… if anything the reply only getting 400 more likes detracts from it. But, I’ll update the post to include that info and delete the post from the user above you as it’s breaks the rules.
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subignition 3 points 3 years ago
Eh, I agree somewhat. My understanding is that the point of ratioing is to demonstrate the weight of public opinion behind the response.
Full disclosure, I've only just noticed this is in a /murderedbywords, so that means the focus is on the insult and not the reception so it's probably fine, lol
_sideffect 0 points 3 years ago
Fuck all the grocery stores. They're stealing from US
Lev_Astov 8 points 3 years ago
If someone is actually hungry or needing to feed children, there are substantially better options to steal, not to mention the social support options the police should be talking about. The random assortment of crap here looks more like a klepto's haul than something taken out of necessity.
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Compactor9679 -22 points 3 years ago
Hahha wtf, now they are asking us to "support" the shoplifters? Lol fuck that. Go to work
jetsetdorito 15 points 3 years ago
Shoplifting isn't right, but there are deeper issues than shoplifting if someone has to shoplift basic needs.
Compactor9679 -6 points 3 years ago
Yea, people not working and just taking stuff is the basic problem
Compactor9679 -4 points 3 years ago
Yea, so enoying when they go shop lifting
Irishred88 10 points 3 years ago
Going to work can be a complicated prospect for some members of society. Not everyone has equal opportunity for education and not everyone can find the support for psychological or mental health problems. We should have compassion for those that have a hard time functioning in society and I suspect that someone who is stealing food has been dealt a shitty hand in life and cannot manage to find the resources to manage normal life on their own.
Compactor9679 -3 points 3 years ago
"Not everyine has equl opportunity for education" you kidding? Dont we give "free" education up to highschool?
flamingo_pinyata 1 point 3 years ago
Just let me ask you this, if you were hungry and had no money, would you consider stealing? Is the moral prohibition of theft stronger than your life?
If so please justify how you valuate property rights vs right to life, and where the limits are?
electrogamerman -24 points 3 years ago
Is lemmy really promoting stealing 🤧?
i_am_hiding 37 points 3 years ago
Over starving to death? Absolutely.
electrogamerman -17 points 3 years ago
Literally there's no where stating that someone is starving to death on this post, lmao.
TopRamenBinLaden 14 points 3 years ago
We are at a point where we can and should make food a right, and not a privilege. Nobody should have to go hungry with how much food we produce and waste in today's world. I don't know why you wouldn't want food security for everybody. It shows lack of empathy, and lack of awareness of how it feels to be hungry and poor.
electrogamerman -3 points 3 years ago
Can you point out where I said something that opposed to that?
PoliticalAgitator 80 points 3 years ago
Just because somebody stole food because they're an asshole doesn't mean that everybody who steals food is an asshole.
We don't actually know which is true here, but we do know that it's far more likely someone is stealing groceries because the wealth inequality horrorshow has grown even more perverse in the last year.
Nevertheless, rather than defending an unnamed person from potentially reprehensible police, you defended the police and an unnamed retail store from a potentially reprehensible person.
I hope you've got shares in a grocery chain because it would be deeply pitiful if you weren't even doing this out of self-interest.
negativeyoda 12 points 3 years ago
Like the cut of your jib
steakmeout 12 points 3 years ago
I mean you're being one right now.
PoliticalAgitator 26 points 3 years ago
If only you could stack "wage theft" on the back of a dodge for a social media photo op and brag about how the criminal behind it is being refused bail.
steakmeout 17 points 3 years ago
Don't👏be👏ball👏cancer👏
Tb0n3 -4 points 3 years ago
Maybe so but theft has been a crime for 10,000 years. And it has been punished by beating up the thief for all of human history. If you take shit that isn't yours, you get what's coming to you.
ScrivenerX 92 points 3 years ago
Condoms, which should be free.
No person lost their job or saw a difference in price due to this amount of theft. Stop spouting corporate propaganda.
grysbok 52 points 3 years ago
I think the person you responded to pointed out the condoms because they believe food-insecure people shouldn't have sex. Which is silly--you don't always have a choice in sex (not everyone's relationships are healthy). And if you're going to have sex, preventing unwanted pregnancy and disease is the responsible choice.
stillwater 50 points 3 years ago
What is it about condoms specifically that somehow make this cross the like into doing economic damage to a whole neighbourhood lol.
_danny 23 points 3 years ago
Buddy, all stores factor in theft. It doesn't matter how big or small they are, if they've been open for more than a few years, they've had shoplifters. From my understanding, you're much more likely to get busted at a small store than you are at a big chain so it happens at small stores much less.
new_acct_who_dis 12 points 3 years ago
Condoms?? That's where you're upset? This person knows they shouldn't/can't bring more ppl into this world rn.
Condoms should be free
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