Canada rescinds digital services tax to advance trade discussions with the United States

a year ago by ValueSubtracted to c/canada

Archangel1313 90 points a year ago

This is NOT what people voted for. Fuck Carney.

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CircaV 42 points a year ago

He forgot already. He got voted in to go balls to the wall. Fuck this.

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GuardYaGrill -59 points a year ago

This is exactly what people voted for. People hate trump so much that they let their emotions cast their votes, Conservatives aren’t much better but we would’ve likely seen a different change of approach on how things are ran.

NDP was suppose to be the in-between of Liberal and Conservative however, they’re far more Liberal than Conservative so it makes sense that their party isn’t crazy popular.

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rImITywR 43 points a year ago

NDP was suppose to be the in-between of Liberal and Conservative

What? How is the centre left party supposed to be in between the centre right party and the right wing party?

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gonzo-rand19 23 points a year ago

NDP was suppose to be the in-between of Liberal and Conservative

[citation needed]

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Archangel1313 1 point a year ago

Don't hold your breath. There are none.

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corsicanguppy 21 points a year ago

suppose

Supposed.

let their emotions cast their votes[.] Conservatives aren’t much better but we would’ve likely seen a different change of approach on how things are [run].

No. We would have seen the cons capitulate completely and invite our new king. What part of everything the cons have done over 40nyears gives a different impression?

NDP

Had no chance of winning even a minority. And they won't, as long as we need to focus on not getting conservatives driving our country into the dirt like they've done to our cousins in America.

It's so tedious to repeat this.

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Archangel1313 5 points a year ago

I don't think you follow Canadian politics very closely.

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OutlierBlue 1 point a year ago

Conservatives aren’t much better but we would’ve likely seen a different change of approach on how things are ran.

You're right. Poilievre would've agreed to Trump's demands immediately to make them all richer and fuck the rest of us. Carney isn't good, but the Cons would've been much worse. Don't pull the same old "but Kamala" bullshit argument in here.

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CircaV 63 points a year ago

I am so so so angry about this. Trunp said the 51st state again - TODAY. And Carney folds like a cheap ass suit on the DST. Fuck that. Carney appeasing fash like a pro. Carney “we’re masters in our own house” blah de blah fuck off. Tax those yank fucks or they can gtfo of our country. I don’t want yank social media shitmaganda. Fuck Carney for this. 1 term, short lived PM.

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floofloof 30 points a year ago

Liberals will never save us. Unfortunately the electoral system screws us.

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CircaV 13 points a year ago

Conservatives would do the same thing

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jerkface 9 points a year ago

Pretty sure that was a given. Doesn't need to be said.

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lost_faith 6 points a year ago

There wouldn't have even been a charade of standing up under the cons

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Boxscape 14 points a year ago

Carney folds like a cheap ass suit

Lmao! I had this image of him disappearing like Obi Wan, except instead of Jedi robes falling to the ground, it's a cheap suit.

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ValueSubtracted 62 points a year ago

Elbows way, way down.

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geekgrrl0 40 points a year ago

Our elbows seem to be made of cotton

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Reannlegge 36 points a year ago

I have turned off a lot of US services and plan to have more turned off this week, I have been slowly cutting things as I come across them, my elbows are up it is to bad Carney has put his elbows down.

I was looking at my ISPs email stuff, for some reason? I found out they have moved to an exchange service, so a Microsoft protocol. I have sense started moving all of my emails off of there to (they are trying to stop offering email so it is nothing off their back).

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floofloof 19 points a year ago

Yes, end those subscriptions to US services, boycott US companies, do the work that Carney won't do.

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Sunshine 12 points a year ago

Grassroots actions will overtake Carney's poor decisions.

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CobraChicken3000 16 points a year ago

Good on you! I have been cancelling everything American and moving my digital services to Europe.

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CircaV 6 points a year ago

Protonmail, Tuta, NorthMail for email. Lemmy obviously (instead of Reddit), Gander for social media. Next is google, Microsoft, azure, SharePoint. I already don’t have Amazon or Netflix. I use wirenine for webhosting and the servers are in Montreal.

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Reannlegge 5 points a year ago

I have started self hosting a lot of things, and using Canadian hosting for my passwords and domain.

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walktheplank 29 points a year ago
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engene 28 points a year ago

Great! Did we just kiss the ring here!?

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CircaV 31 points a year ago

Yep and Carney just ended the honeymoon. He’s gonna soon feel the wrath of Canadians who took a chance on his bougie “I’ve handled crisis before” ass.

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walktheplank 9 points a year ago
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CircaV 3 points a year ago

I’ll protest if it’s organized by unions. I’m not doing any kkklownvoy shit.

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walktheplank 2 points a year ago
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RelativityRanger 20 points a year ago

Fuck this bullshit

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Darkcoffee 19 points a year ago

Elbows straight into the mantle of the earth.

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Gnumile 16 points a year ago

I wonder how many of the "fuck Trudeau" people are upset about this tax being dropped...which was introduced by Trudeau

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cyberpunk007 8 points a year ago

Feels like all I can do at this point is to continue to not buy American.

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Sunshine 6 points a year ago

Change needs to come from the bottom-up.

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CircaV 4 points a year ago

Those kkklowns want to be a state.

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Frenezul0_o 15 points a year ago

We shouldn't negotiate with terrorists.

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Sunshine 14 points a year ago

Carney is a clown who should've been given a much smaller majority.

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MapleEngineer 4 points a year ago

Carney has a minority. Be quiet, the adults are talking.

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LeFantome 14 points a year ago

CACO?

Carney Always Chickens Out

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anachronist 4 points a year ago

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DoctorNope 3 points a year ago

My god, he could at least have given the chicken a week to stew and see if he folds. Instead…

Carney Already Returned to Negotiations Emptyhanded Yesterday?

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grte 12 points a year ago

So that's three taxes cut and a promise to increase the share of the national budget spent on the military to 30~%. One of the tax cuts and the military spending target being direct capitulations to Trump. Great start. What's next, we end national health care and open the Canadian market to US health insurance companies?

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avidamoeba 9 points a year ago

Now I hear the angry noises here, and I'm pretty angry myself, but I'm hoping that this is one elbow down so we can get something for it, like keeping supply management. If we get fucked on all fronts then... Yeah. Fuck.

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CircaV 10 points a year ago

You do not capitulate to fash. Carney is a clown.

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ImplyingImplications -8 points a year ago

I don't like it either, but stroking Trump's ego and not doing anything to set him off is probably a better strategy than telling him to go fuck himself. Although I really really hope it works out. If Carney doesn't get a win the Liberals are going to be replaced real quick.

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danielquinn 25 points a year ago

It will not work. It never works. Trump is a bully. When in the history of the universe has capitulating to a bully ever resulted in a fair deal?

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ImplyingImplications -11 points a year ago

I'm not sure pissing off bullies leads to fair deals either. I'm thinking Carney isn't trying to get a good deal, but to avoid a trade war. Hell, Trump could order air strikes on Canada. He did it with Iran. Probably best not to piss him off. $2 billion in tax would be great but the government can also just print $2 billion if they really wanted to.

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danielquinn 11 points a year ago

What makes you think that he won't further a trade war or drop bombs on Vancouver if we do give him everything he wants? Placating bullies doesn't pacify them, it emboldens them. Canada should be pushing back against the US and dragging the rest of the world with us in the process. Instead, everyone is just falling in line while Trump walks all over us.

If we're really lucky, we'll get to keep some cosmetic sovereignty out of all of this, but I don't like our chances.

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CircaV 7 points a year ago

We’re in a trade war - and moving away from the US ina way that will ensure for generations or longer. Carney capitulated to fash. We are Austria in 1938.

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floofloof 11 points a year ago

Replaced by the Conservatives who will try even harder to do everything Trump wants, because they have always wanted to turn Canada into the USA? We're in a bit of a sticky spot here.

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avidamoeba 5 points a year ago

I'm not sure if we'll replace him just yet. He has to show that he's tried all reasonable avenues and if he does and Trump still fucks us, then he comes out and says - I tried all I could, now we'll have to take these unprecedented steps to prevent economic meltdown. I think in such a scenario Canadians would rally behind him and consent to COVID-like economic supports among other things, even WWII style policies around prices controls, taxes and so on, depending on how bad things get. The other parties would also be forced to support him because it would look pretty bad if they stood against taking care of Canadians during an economic crisis.

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Tramort 8 points a year ago

What a pussy

Trump has no cards and desperately needs this

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SamuelRJankis 6 points a year ago

If the resulting deal out of all this garbage isn't something decent I wonder if the Liberals last long enough for Pierre to be possibly ousted next January.

Although I suppose we could negotiate a deal then Trump could change his made 2-3 times before that as well.

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LostWon 4 points a year ago

It's up to us, since it seems more and more every day that Carney really can't be trusted. Either outright avoid US online services or do NO financial transactions and block all ads.

*edit - Also, I wonder how long it will take Trump's "Big Beautiful Bill" to properly bankrupt the US? I hope the US people can do something about him for their own sake, and ours.

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ILikeBoobies 3 points a year ago

Write to Carney/your MP praising them for ending trade negotiations with the US

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Montreal_Metro 1 point a year ago

You know what to do, unsubscribe.

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