I like this. First time hearing it.
I like this. First time hearing it.
This is a useful technology....for tyrants.
Potential PTSD treatment. I think this is the plot to a movie or book though, where soldiers are taken advantage of.
There was definitely a Black Mirror about it.
Sidenote: It's weird to me that more people don't talk about the inevitability of that one with the soldiers with cybernetic HUD implants that, shocking twist later, can make civilians look like monsters to be purged.
On the other hand, why bother when the Boston Dynamics murderbots are probably cheaper?
I agree. But I also wouldn't mind forgetting one or two things. However, I've also watched Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, so I know it ends with me having perpetual dementia-like fever dreams.
Whew, hopefully he'll forget he's supposed to track me till the end of time
Sorry bucko, it was a decoy snail
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That's incredible, I was aware of the tileman mode plug in, but this is inspired.
Scientists: No guys seriously what have we done I can't remember
Oh no, they fried the part of their brain that could tell the difference between snails and humans!
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Snail
Finally! A therapy to make me forget that movie!
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Note, I'm not a scientist.
As I suspected it appears they tortured the snails somehow (my guess is electric shock) to create traumatic memories. This has been done with caterpillars I think to see if they retain memories after turning into butterflies and they do, despite basically turning into primordial goop in the cocoon. They do, and it's tested by seeing if they retain aversions to certain areas of their cages that are electrified.
Then something about enzymes created which associate memory with pain and being able to target them.
Pretty cool, and I for one definitely have a few traumas I'd like erased.
Pretty cool, and I for one definitely have a few traumas I’d like erased.
It's kinda neat, but I for one do not want to see Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind become a documentary. I mean I like the movie and all...but.
There is debate about how the therapy works and whether it is more effective than other established treatments.[1][5] The eye movements have been criticized as having no scientific basis.[6] The founder promoted the therapy for the treatment of PTSD, and proponents employed untestable hypotheses to explain negative results in controlled studies.[7] EMDR has been characterized as a pseudoscientific purple hat therapy (i.e., only as effective as its underlying therapeutic methods without any contribution from its distinctive add-ons).[8]
I read about that fifteen years ago and dismissed it as pseudoscience. Wikipedia confirms. Pass (thanks though, don't mean to be rude)
It honestly was too scary for me. I don’t do horror games. The angler fish in the main game was almost too much for me
I can play Omori without having been spoiled!
Such a great game. I'd also play through Undertale again with this
It's the long hidden aliens that were driving the latest non-human aircraft
Maybe the snail meme was a CIA guerilla training operation.
Wait, the snails are training the gorillas? We're through the looking glass here, people!
I want off this goddamn Jefferson airplane!
Have you ever entered a room and forgot why you came in?
How about your dreams at night? Or what you had for dinner last month?
I think that memory-deletion is much more common than we think. Like vast invisible whales floating through your living room.
Of course we'd never know it.

Every time I walk into another room.
Well the scientists must be zapping me a lot in that case.
You ever read "there is no anti-memetics division" by qntm?
It's good science fiction . He explores the subject of memory, deleting memory, etc. They have drugs for erasing memory, drugs for making it so you can't forget, demons that eat memory, certain kinds of information that resist being remembered... It's fascinating stuff.
It's probably at your request, to help you get rid of a horrible / painful memory (comedy skit).
Haha, this skit really feels like it's 14 years old. First time seeing it, thanks!
Pfft this guy doesn't know how to see the invisible whales 🙄
Chemtrails are real but the chemicals are usually amnestics
I wonder if a general approach to inducing amnesia would be the best approach.
I think that we always take what we've got - what we see, memories - no matter how flimsy, and stitch together a plausible narrative from that.
So the amnesia doesn't have to be very precise. Our amnesiator could basically be just a brain damage ray
Probably a racing snail.
It doesn't remember, sorry.
Exactly the reason they had to fund this project.
Cheaper than the lawsuit.
The scientists first enlarged the snail, but when the snail was too large to make love to his snail wife or hug his snail children without crushing them, he decided to sue. That is until he suddenly got amnesia somehow.
But that means he has a giant snail dick too! Shouldn't his snail wife be happy?
So they could use a normal sized eraser, duh.
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mollusk
Small know knew too much.
Yeah, but it's 5 years old.
Probably something like the snail learned to find food in a certain place, then they were able to make it forget such that it would search randomly instead of going to the place it had learned.
Sounds like a good job.
I read a study once about caterpillars getting shocked in their cages to teach them which areas are electrified. They retained this memory aversion after turning into butterflies. Probably something similar, basic behavioral observations to stimuli.
Humans experimenting on weaker animals has peak fashist vibes.
"bUt iTs oNLy a SnAiL" yeah and before anything happens on humand they will experiment on mammals.
There was a period during the Chinese Communist revolution that basically labeled a lot of modern science as capitalist propaganda.
There's a book series that starts with that event, and is the inciting event that caused a group of scientists to basically invite a hostile race of aliens to earth to wipe out and rebuild society.
I forget the name, it's by Cixin Liu
Edit: The Three Body Problem is the first book
Peak human.
How many dogs and chimpanzees are you willing to murder for the human trial to fail in phase 2?
How many you got?
Dogs? We have a limitless supply, go nuts scientists. Chimps eh let's say less than 30, the lower the amount of chimps that die the better but at the end of the day, traumatic experiences vastly reduce quality of life for people, so if chimps gotta die, they gotta die.
This may be tough to hear but some poeple don't give a shit about animals.
Is that arrogant? Fuck yes. Is it hypocritical? From most people, yes. Is it wrong? Lol no, humanity rules over earth and I really don't see why we should (potentially) torture our own population in experiments rather than species that largely lack self awareness and often have problems with object permanence.
Animals are animals and unless one of them writes me an essay about how all of this is wrong in its own language I won't change my mind on that. The only species coming even remotely close to us in intellect and mind are dolphins and octopi, neither of which are commonly used for animal trials of anything except puzzles.
last step in trials is poor people.
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It reminds me of that old joke of the 2 scientists studying a fly.
Scientist 1: Fly, fly! Scientist 2: When fly has two wings fly flies 2 feet.
Scientist 1: pulls off one wing and says Fly, Fly! Scientist 2: When fly has 1 wing, fly flies 1 foot
Scientist 1: pulls off the other wing and says, Fly, fly!. Nothing happens Scientist 1 Fly, Fly! Nothing happens Scientist 1 showing frustration> FLY! FLY! Scientist 2: When fly has no wings, fly becomes deaf.
Bad-dum!
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