Here's what a Brazilian restaurant owner did after city hall banned sidewalk patio tables

a year ago by FundMECFS to c/maliciouscompliance

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/33333666

I love malicious compliance with car-centric rules 😎

psx_crab 37 points a year ago

It's a bit of an ass move to block that horribly small sidewalk though.

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ChilledPeppers 19 points a year ago

Yeh, but why is the sidewalk small in the first place? (Not attacking you, but you know what I mean)

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psx_crab 10 points a year ago

Yes because car-centric design suck, and i live in one. Which kinda makes sidewalk more precious for pedestrian, especially for people with handicap.

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Showroom7561 31 points a year ago

The problem is on-street parking. Removing it would easily allow for plenty of space for pedestrians and businesses.

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thermal_shock 13 points a year ago

Yup. They blocked off 2 blocks in a very pedestrian popular area downtown near me, people love it. Restaurants expanded into the street a little, live music, etc. really made it very nice

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Shady_Shiroe 26 points a year ago

This looks more fun than just sitting on the side of the road

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SubArcticTundra 8 points a year ago

But. They can drive the trucks with the customers away at any moment.

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tunetardis 6 points a year ago

I think that's part of the plan though right? If they spot a compliance officer walking up, they can drive the patio around the block a bit until he's gone.

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DreamAccountant 21 points a year ago

Fuck these people. Sidewalks are for fucking walking, not for extra space for your stupid fucking restaurant.

"I'll just take over the entire sidewalk with tables and chairs!" - Asshole

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Squizzy 16 points a year ago

Eh its hardly a one size fits all case. These companies employ and pay community taxes as well as a host of others. If it is feasible they should be allowed to do this. Get rid of the parking after 5pm and put out seating. Sidewalk is free and there is extra space.

Tbh I love when restaurants have huge outside patio, courtyard spaces.

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gens 4 points a year ago

They ahould put them in the middle of the street

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Squizzy 3 points a year ago

I agree with pedestrianisation too

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Natanael 15 points a year ago

In some places here in Sweden, restaurants with sidewalk tables have an extra "lane" for pedestrians installed in parallel over the side of the street, like a protected boardwalk

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BastingChemina 7 points a year ago

In my village in France they close the main street in the evening and weekend for restaurants and bars to put their table there.

I love it

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BakerBagel 9 points a year ago

We can get rid of the parking spots and put the side walks there while ahopa can use the space outside their shop for whatever they see fit. It's good for communities to have people out and doing things, not just shoved away inside somewhere.

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r_deckard 4 points a year ago

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r_deckard 3 points a year ago

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Lembot_0004 10 points a year ago

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whaleross 27 points a year ago

It's not stupid if it blocks pedestrians from using the sidewalk. I mean, imagine putting them tables all across the road for cars... I think this is a creative and good solution for everybody.

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Lembot_0004 7 points a year ago

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whaleross 4 points a year ago

Idk about that case, but here all sidewalk patio tables are banned unless you get a permit, and that permit decides if there is room for pedestrians to pass the tables.

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DreamAccountant 1 point a year ago

Good. Ban all fucking sidewalk tables. Why? Because they're on the fucking SIDEWALK, where people fucking walk.

But that's modern journalism for you, an asshole without empathy making stupid assumptions. Plus zero awareness of the disabled and their need to use clear sidewalks for mobility.

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GandalfTheDumb 5 points a year ago

At least one of the pictures looks like they parked on parking spots not on the sidewalk so I'm totally cool with them doing it tbh.

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21Cabbage 8 points a year ago

Keeping shit off the sidewalk doesn't seem very car centric to me, hell, damn near the opposite.

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HowAbt2day 3 points a year ago

If they’re willing to risk, along with the customers, to have folks get off that flat bed after some alcohol consumption, go for it. Keep the sidewalk for foot traffic, neighborhood kids playing and older folks to get around without obstacles.

This is a humble neighborhood with working class folks, in a typically hot and humid environment with limited or zero AC, and they probably have small apartments so you need these comfortable options to chill and enjoy time with friends and family after busting your ass working all month. I see this as a win for everyone.

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ChilledPeppers 4 points a year ago

older folks to get arround without obstacles

Bro has not seen a Brazilian sidewalk, there are light posts in the middle of it, and the owners of the buildings are responsible for maintaining it, so every 10 meters there is a giant step and some rough terrain. Brazil has horrible urban planning and walkability, the city hall decision just sounds like carbrain to me. "The sidewalk is small so we will push people indoors" Why is the sidewalk small in the first place?

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HowAbt2day 3 points a year ago

I haven’t been to all of Brasil and you’re right, sidewalks come in all shapes and sides. Or non existent. My theory on why sidewalks are small in some cities is that local governments make the streets too wide for trucks to pass.

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SubArcticTundra 3 points a year ago

We have one of these in Prague

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Kolanaki 2 points a year ago

Now I want to see taco trucks where you get on the truck and eat tacos while they tour the city or something.

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random_character_a 1 point a year ago

Don't know Brazilian law, but here distributing alcohol to that platform would be illegal.

Can restaurants sell alcohol as a takeaway in Brazil? If so, it would be hard to forbid that, unless you have a law about drinking in public outside restaurant premises.

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FundMECFS 22 points a year ago

Not Brazilian. But as someone who has had the privilege to travel around in the past, the US was the only country I visited that had these super strict Puritan Alcohol laws.

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masterspace 3 points a year ago

Liquor licensing for restaurants is a think in many places in the world. So are building codes.

There might be some very good reasons for not allowing restaurants to arbitrarily setup chairs on raised platforms with no railings above concrete and then serve liquor up there.

This is a TBI waiting to happen.

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FundMECFS 6 points a year ago

Liquor Liscence is common. Policing where people are allowed to drink what they bought is pretty uncommon.

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psx_crab 1 point a year ago

Is it though? I went through the whole wiki page and it tell me otherwise, though some country have nationwide ban, some have state ban, some have municipal/city ban, and most commonly are area ban.

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kautau 1 point a year ago

I think many countries have those laws, whether or not they’re strictly enforced.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_in_public

Also depends on where in the US. Bourbon street? Las Vegas? Atlantic City? Go for it. It’s also one of those things where it’s an unspoken rule. Community concert on the green? Just don’t have an open beer, put it into a cup and people will care less and it’s hard for cops to say anything.

It’s certainly strange, but I think the issue here is cops being more militaristic, especially against those they think they can get an easy arrest, rather than our country being the only one with drinking in public laws.

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argarath 11 points a year ago

I'm Brazilian, and I'll say I have no idea what a "take away"alcohol purchase means. Here you can open the can inside the market, drink it as you purchase as long as you pay it on the way out. Never heard of any laws against drinking in public, only about selling alcohol to minors and drunk driving

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new_guy 6 points a year ago

Brazilian here.

It's legal to sell alcohol as takeway and its legal to drink outside of public restaurant premises.

From the top of my head the only place that isnt allowed to sell alcohol is in football stadiums in some states. Some can still sell it but only in plastic cups.

I don't really see a problem (aside from some drunk person falling off the platform while trying to go to the bathroom) in this solution. This could very well be in place as a permanent solution to this pub.

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KiWilly 1 point a year ago

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