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SoupBrick 148 points a year ago

"I think the WIFI might be messed up."

Bro, I think the AI might be messed up. You don't get instructions to grate a pear when a device cannot connect to the internet.

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primrosepathspeedrun 23 points a year ago

Clearly youve never used my fridge.

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SoupBrick 13 points a year ago

Tell us what you have seen, oh Ye Who Dweleth Among The Machines.

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Aussiemandeus 12 points a year ago

Hope it's not samsung since there going to run ads on your fridge now

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primrosepathspeedrun 8 points a year ago

Your fridge doesnt have adds? You have a sex toy that doesn't buzz in the pattern of famous jingles?

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MiddleAgesModem 3 points a year ago

I suppose ol' righty could rub out a festive tune

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MiddleAgesModem 2 points a year ago

Don't buy one.

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Aussiemandeus 2 points a year ago

I don't intend too.

Any appliance that needs wifi doesn't get bought in my house

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Denjin 126 points a year ago

Even if this worked perfectly, ignoring the fact that it's clearly setup for the camera to recognise certain things and is in no way a genuine demonstration, what is the point of this? By the time it's even responded to his first "Hey meta" he could have typed "korean steak sauce recipe" into his search engine of choice and got back several dozen decent results in seconds.

What is the problem that these LLMs and chatbots are the solution for? It's like they're all desperately trying to market some fancy new type of barely functioning legs to everyone when we already have legs, and arms, and cars, and bicycles.

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voodooattack 54 points a year ago
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Coyote_sly 8 points a year ago

Well sure, but you can't harvest data using your one legged mech suit of everyone keeps riding around on their perfectly functional bike.

LLMs just don't have a real use case for most people. That's the core issue here, and it isn't one that's going to get solved anytime soon.

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voodooattack 4 points a year ago
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foenkyfjutschah 4 points a year ago

object recognition and classification is not LLM

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JcbAzPx 3 points a year ago

Meta isn't really a widget seller, though. Alexa and the Google thing only have the user base they do because they jam it into every device they sell.

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fishy 3 points a year ago

Yup, their only real use in my daily life would be as a search result summary tool. Unfortunately in my experience they're they've been a net negative in that area and are hidden/ignored because they give the most common answer, which is rarely the specific answer I'm searching for.

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ideonek 3 points a year ago

Which will still not be enught to make ads work. It's so much effort and abuse for nothing.

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someacnt 5 points a year ago

To be fair, it is helpful to do grunt repetitive work which is only slightly different from the established formula. For me, it solved a quick math olympiad-esque problem which appeared in research.

But it is never conscious or creative.

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Alcoholicorn 0 points a year ago

The idea is the AI would automatically look at what you have and come up with something, substituting ingredients for what you have as necessary.

“korean steak sauce recipe” into his search engine of choice and got back several dozen decent results in seconds.

Have you tried looking for a recipe in the last 10 years or so? 10 pages of fluff with a recipe the author cobbled together from other recipes and guess work and made exactly 1 time if that at the bottom.

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Denjin 13 points a year ago

The idea is the AI would automatically look at what you have and come up with something, substituting ingredients for what you have as necessary.

But as in the staged example they've put together here, that required you to find and lay out all your ingredients already so you've already done 90% of the work. Are my AI glasses going to be able to scan all my cupboards and fridge and pantry for things first and then go from there? It's a bad solution to a problem that doesn't really exist.

Have you tried looking for a recipe in the last 10 years or so? 10 pages of fluff with a recipe the author cobbled together from other recipes and guess work and made exactly 1 time if that at the bottom.

Yes, all the time, I even looked at recipes for "Korean style steak sauce" to prove my point and got probably a dozen decent ones straight away, including a couple from very well recognised sites like BBC Good Food.

And where exactly do you suppose the LLM has scraped together all it's information from for what you can substitute canola oil or sesame seeds for? Those exact recipes you could just have searched for.

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4am 4 points a year ago

Are my AI glasses going to be able to scan all my cupboards and fridge and pantry for things first and then go from there?

No, the idea is that you wear the glasses all the time and it scans and knows the contents of your house constantly. What brands you like, what products you own, what activities you do and when, what conversations you have, whether or not you like the government, whether or not you own a computer with an ad blocker, what the best entry points are for a SWAT team from ICE, etc.

So it would already know what ingredients you have for making a Korean inspired BBQ sauce, and as long as you were well-mannered and compliant in your home and all the public spaces you visit at all times, it wouldn’t direct you to the re-education camp for further analysis on what radicalized you out of their control.

I don’t understand why you people are so negative about AI and the motivations of these large tech companies creating it on here! Think of how much easier life would be.

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MiddleAgesModem -5 points a year ago

And where exactly do you suppose the LLM has scraped together all it’s information from for what you can substitute canola oil or sesame seeds for? Those exact recipes you could just have searched for.

Who cares? It's still more convenient.

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Denjin 6 points a year ago

LOL it demonstrably is not.

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greybeard 11 points a year ago

You know what would be more useful than this AI and wouldn't cost billions of dollars? If Facebook made a simple recipe that didn't have all that fluff. Instead of having AI try to come up with it in the fly, you could just have premade recipes. Wouldn't that be grand. Oh wait, that wouldn't give the opportunity for the AI to recommend a specific brand of soy sauce or that you buy your spices from Doordash with a 10% discount coupon!

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MiddleAgesModem -8 points a year ago

chatGPT as NEVR suggested a specific bran to me. What is it about anti-AI crusading do you think excuses your deliberate misinformation?

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greybeard 9 points a year ago

Why do you think advertising companies like Google and Meta are dumping so much money into AI? It isn't to make a better product for the user.

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4am 5 points a year ago

If you think that they’re never going to put subtle ads into LLM output then you are really, really unaware of what the tech world is like and how they’re fucking using you

AI deserves to be crusaded against because we cannot trust the motivations of any of its creators. Do YOU trust Mark Zuckerberg??

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zbyte64 3 points a year ago

The same pressures that made internet search suck applies to AI doing search as well.

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MiddleAgesModem -7 points a year ago

Cooking is my favorite use of AI. It has completely changed the way I eat, which is much healthier. I also try new things I never would have before. I load up on healthy ingredients, spices and sauces and let it do it's thing. You can always have it mix it up, or focus on an ingredient that's more perishable, or focus on something that may be expiring soon. The variability is endless. I've been cooking every day for months, never once made the same thing twice.

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YesButActuallyMaybe 3 points a year ago
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antonim 112 points a year ago

What surprises me isn't that AI failed, what surprises me is that Zuckerberg believes in his own hyping of AI so much he had the confidence to try to do this at all, live, unstaged. Is this courage, honesty, stupidity, hubris?

The most favourable explanation I can think of is that they tried it out ahead of the presentation, it worked well enough, so they trusted it could be repeated.

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dalekcaan 69 points a year ago

Same energy

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njm1314 42 points a year ago

I just don't know how many times these billionaires have to prove that deep down they're just dumb asses at heart until people get the message

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Tollana1234567 18 points a year ago

they surround themselves with sycophants thier whole lives, to avoid the uncomfortable possibility that someone says they are wrong.

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tigeruppercut 0 points a year ago

I mean, elon and zuck aren't dummies, but unless (or perhaps even if) you're a literal genius you need other people to constantly be checking your ideas. When you only have sycophants you're gonna start churning out stupid ideas.

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njm1314 4 points a year ago

Lol Elon wishes he were at the dummy level. He is looking up at it.

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tigeruppercut 1 point a year ago

I think he’s a piece of shit who’s become somewhat dumber because of the aforementioned yes men and that he doesn’t need to have any good plans anymore, and the ketamine doesn’t help, and also having low emotional intelligence makes him seem stupid at times. Not to mention the fact that he’s got all kinds of issues that he’ll never get psychological help for.

But he got his undergrad in physics and went to grad school for econ (and I don’t think he paid people to do his work like the orange blob). He’s not a Tony stark genius like he’d like to imagine himself but as much as I hate him I don’t think he’s dumb.

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DandomRude 18 points a year ago path: 0 19474359 19476081, hotness: undefined, score: 18, children: 0
MangoPenguin 86 points a year ago

God that's so awkward, the super long pauses before it can even start replying, the horrible robot voice it has, and them both trying to pretend it's a wifi issue lmao.

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Klear 14 points a year ago

And what about the AI?

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Dhar 2 points a year ago

It has weird facial hair.

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MiddleAgesModem 0 points a year ago

What about it? I don't know the quality of Facebook's but what I use works extremely well for regular cooking.

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RaivoKulli 2 points a year ago

You missed the joke

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Tilgare -24 points a year ago

To be fair (not that Zuck has ever done anything to earn it), wifi at enormous events like that can be super flaky and slow. Thousands of people hitting it simultaneously and it slows to a crawl.

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Anivia 59 points a year ago

Wifi being slow doesn't make an AI reply bullshit, at worst it makes it reply slower or not at all

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ininewcrow 26 points a year ago

These are managed and controlled events. They would have setup dedicated wifi systems to eliminate as much interference as possible. I've worked at a couple of small scale public events for companies ... they manage things down to the smallest details to try to make sure things work as intended. The bigger the company, the bigger the budget and the more they try to control everything.

For a company like Facebook hosting a public event like this, they would have controlled absolutely everything, including the wifi .... and the only variable that they couldn't control was the AI and what it would, or not do.

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4am 2 points a year ago

They probably had an issue with the WiFi earlier at whatever convention this is that affected connectivity for all the attendees and so they’re joking around that that was the actual problem; being socially awkward enough to not realize that makes no sense outside the venue where no one else knows or experienced that.

So while their AI failed spectacularly on the global stage, I don’t think they really expected anyone to believe that “the WiFi did it”. It was a tongue-in-cheek joke because they didn’t have any other cover.

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Tilgare 1 point a year ago

Certainly not - because it clearly worked, just not well. i.e., everyone else's daily experience with AI. There's no way it had a bad connection and was failing back to onboard processing on a device like this (because I bet it does zero onboard, 100% OTA), it just did a bad job. But convention wifi is congested and consistently garbage for sure. I simply meant that the long response times were likely the thing they should have been blaming on the wifi.

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kalistia 45 points a year ago

"The wifi"

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INeedMana 42 points a year ago

I wonder if botched demos are not starting to become intentional. In the end, the more people talk about something, the more successful that marketing action is, right?

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ideonek 26 points a year ago

I hate it. There is no dumb enought thing, that billioners can do to prove that are truly dumb, without people giving them benefits of playing 4-dimensional chess. The king truly is naked.

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postmateDumbass 1 point a year ago

No sense in spending the extra to get it perfect when your asking them to invest in the concept and the future.

Also, would set expectations for the next demo to actually work too.

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Stamau123 3 points a year ago

maybe for dipshits, so yes it will be a winning strategy

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Kolanaki 42 points a year ago

Why is he so weirdly obsessed with BBQ sauce?

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brandon 34 points a year ago

What do you mean? People love barbeque sauce. There's nothing more normal and human than barbeque sauce. Biological human beings are natural barbeque sauce enthusiasts.

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dalekcaan 5 points a year ago path: 0 19474090 19474327 19475378, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 0
panda_abyss 26 points a year ago

Sauce is the true litmus test of civilization

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bigfondue -1 points a year ago
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MiddleAgesModem 2 points a year ago

I didn't realize you had to be insecure in your masculinity to like BBQ sauce.

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brachiosaurus 40 points a year ago

You are all falling for meta advertising, if it wasn't for this mishap nobody would know they are releasing a new product

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GreenKnight23 19 points a year ago

what's the product again?

oh right, it's you.

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Krauerking 17 points a year ago

I still dont know what they are doing other than making themselves look like idiots.

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krunklom 6 points a year ago

Cheese. They're making cheese. Butt flavoured cheese.

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Krauerking 3 points a year ago

That checks out. Now grate a pear into it.

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brachiosaurus -2 points a year ago

I still dont know what they are doing

They are advertising their product, you are talking on a thread about it

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LiveLM 11 points a year ago

Making his product look stupid twice in the same event seems like a bold marketing strategy....

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brachiosaurus -1 points a year ago

donald trump make himself looks stupid every day and he won elections twice. Stop giving them visibility that's how they lose.

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buttnugget 2 points a year ago

Trump looks stupid to normal people. To traitor lunatics, he is amazing. That’s the difference here. Nobody sees a product demo gone awry and thinks they’ve gotta have it.

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brachiosaurus 0 points a year ago

You are here talking on a thread about meta shit and not somewhere else.

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drmoose 7 points a year ago

Nah zuckerboot is legit angry. Everybody knows of meta glasses already and now they know they don't work.

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brachiosaurus 0 points a year ago

Nobody knew they were releasing new ones until this shit

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philosloppy 1 point a year ago
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taxon 34 points a year ago

A classic example of realworld AI implementation. I wonder how many times they rehearsed the cooking scene before deciding it was never going to work.

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Evotech 11 points a year ago
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rumba 7 points a year ago

yeah, they probably had a system prompt setup to make sure it responded appropriately, something like, we're about to make a japanese BBQ sauce from the ingredients on the table, when we ask about it, use the camera to look at and remark about the ingredients on the table.

But AI distills noise, and it has memory so it probably just mashed the gas this time. The part where it was supposed to recognise his actions was smoke and mirrors. It's fine at telling what's on the table, it's bad at recognising what he's doing.

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Killer 3 points a year ago

I feel like him cutting it off as it was listing things on the table might've kinda bricked it too

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pjwestin 33 points a year ago

Not sure that, "sorry, we botched our entire tech demo because we couldn't get the router working," is a better explanation.

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Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In 9 points a year ago

Apparently they DDoSed themselves. They broadcast the verbal instruction "OK Meta" on a closed network with hundreds of meta AI users.

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wasabi 12 points a year ago

I still don't see how that would explain that the AI gave the wrong answer. It would make more sense if the AI gave no answer.

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turmoil 2 points a year ago

Only explanation I would have is that a higher number of users would cause load balancing to serve lower parameter models. That way you'd have less reliable answers at peak usage times, but could enable more simultaneous users.

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Wispy2891 7 points a year ago

That excuse where supposedly the meta glasses connect to any random server available in the network without even a warning seems even worse, it's a huge security issue if true

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pjwestin 2 points a year ago

LOL, wait, seriously? Is that confirmed?

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pjwestin 9 points a year ago

LOL, that's fucking awesome. Also, does this mean that I can just fuck with any dork wearing these? Like, if I'm in within earshot of them and I say, "OK Meta, show me pictures of orangutan genitals!' that's just gonna get displayed on their glasses?

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nonentity 27 points a year ago

Ridiculing slopvangelical LLM thumpers is the only valid response.

No one who truly understands how computing works can legitimately argue what played out in this video was the result of ‘bad Wi-Fi’.

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ch00f 3 points a year ago

The dude doing the demo was Jack Mancuso, a food content creator.

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4am 2 points a year ago

bro please how will I cook my meals bro

ive been eating so healthy for weeks now bro

it saved me from scrolling directly to the bottom of so many SEO-optimized pages

please bro

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rustydrd 24 points a year ago

You'd think they script this and test it a couple of times before showing it to the press. If they can't manage to do that, maybe the hundreds of billions of investments into their AI program are a teeny tiny bit misplaced.

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Randomgal 4 points a year ago

They did. This was marketing.

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theunknownmuncher 23 points a year ago

I laughed so hard at the pre-recorded demo where the guy interrupts his friend in the middle of the conversation in order to talk to his glasses. You can tell how wildly out of touch the billionaire and executives are who approved this product...

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ICastFist 20 points a year ago

I see Mark Cuckberg has become an adept of the "BSoD in front of everyone", now that Microsoft no longer does that. Remember that metaverse marketing?

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lemmylommy 19 points a year ago

„No i haven’t. Walk me through it from the start, please“ could have very well saved that performance.

But I guess that was not in the script.

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LadyMeow 11 points a year ago

I dunno , if ‘what do I do first’ can’t get there….

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OrangeScentedFish 19 points a year ago

"How do I make a Korean inspired marinade?"

"I see you have already opened the hood, now check the v-belt"

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bitwolf 17 points a year ago

The wifi is messing up 😅

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JackbyDev 17 points a year ago

Smokin' some brisket with the Sweet Baby Ray's

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LiveLM 8 points a year ago

Ugh every time I see a bottle I remember the fuck face saying it goddamn it get him out of my brain

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dai 6 points a year ago path: 0 19489764 19490002, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 1
JackbyDev 1 point a year ago

"What is the zucc thing? The Z U C C thing?"

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madeinthebackseat 11 points a year ago

Is Zuckerberg's buffoonery an intentional distraction from the evil algorithmic destruction of society via Meta's products?

If so, when are we going to stop taking the bait?

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lemmy12369 9 points a year ago

Yup just like Steve said during one of his demos..

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snooggums 6 points a year ago

Or Musk, when he wanted to show how tough the cybertruck windows were.

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rem26_art 9 points a year ago

Bro just wasn't hallucinating the same reality as the glasses. He just had to grate the carrots and add them to the base he already made. Duh.

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theunknownmuncher 8 points a year ago

Pear* lol

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resipsaloquitur 8 points a year ago path: 0 19475611, hotness: undefined, score: 8, children: 0
Someonelol 6 points a year ago

Why anyone would applaud that pathetic attempt at a demo is a mystery. Maybe they were plants?

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psx_crab 10 points a year ago

What? No, those are obviously human not plant.

But yes, event like these tend to have a paid actor that initiate claps and cheers

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asudox 6 points a year ago

Must be the one that keeps shouting "woohoo" before anyone else at every little thing mark does.

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Tollana1234567 2 points a year ago

the only one not human was the robot, zuckerborg.

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HugeNerd 5 points a year ago

How did we get here? How did computers go from a tool to solve real problems to becoming this useless, silly distraction?

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Phegan 3 points a year ago
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HugeNerd 1 point a year ago

I think it's more "productivism", the idea that everyone needs to be employed. Since I believe there is very little for people to actually do anymore, we need to constantly come up with nonsense to keep the "velocity of money" up.

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But_my_mom_says_im_cool 4 points a year ago

Im a little confused, how is this new tech? Also how is it so bad? Couldn’t Siri and basically every phone now do a better job at what he’s trying to do?

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tigeruppercut 3 points a year ago
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tinfoilhat 3 points a year ago

The irony of LLMs is they try to solve the problem of making information easier to retrieve, which was made harder by SEO'd sites that bury the information you need halfway through the page under the history of the author's great grandmother's chicken sauce recipe.

Also, why didn't they just fucking record this in advance?

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vala 1 point a year ago

What? You guys don't like smoked meats?

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