dfyx 103 points a year ago

I don’t see any AI, just a list that got sorted alphabetically when it shouldn’t have been.

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The list would be extra fun in a foreign language but keeping the English order.

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vaionko 28 points a year ago

Not exactly this, but I hate it when devices translate all the languages in the language selection screen to the chosen language. So I have to guess what "English" is in Chinese. As if it wasn't difficult enough to navigate to said menu

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9point6 16 points a year ago

You've reminded me of my favourite one of those that's probably mostly experienced by British people

On a country or language list I'm either looking for, "United Kingdom" "Great Britain", "Britain"/"British", "England"/” English"

Now that's kinda fair enough, it's usually UK, so I go to the bottom and start my hunt there.

The big problem comes when the list is ordered by whatever value they're using to represent the choice, not the text itself, so you get stuff like "United Kingdom" where "Great Britain" should be.

This is not uncommon

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Successful_Try543 21 points a year ago

As a German, you often don't find Deutschland in a list behind Danmark, but between other countries starting with G.

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yermaw 4 points a year ago

I often wonder how many man hours have been wasted searching for the country. Especially when it's not strictly necessary.

Its a minimum wage job in the UK im applying for. Lets assume its a safe bet and put UK at the top of the list.

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Valmond 4 points a year ago

And forgetting that there are countries whos first floor is the ground floor.

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boonhet 6 points a year ago

AI might actually do better if used to sort here since it MIGHT give you the proper order

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Quibblekrust 55 points a year ago

Umm... That's just alphabetical.

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potoo22 4 points a year ago

Tomāto potăto

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eager_eagle 1 point a year ago

aamoooopTttt*

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ripcord 47 points a year ago

What does this have to do with AI or with bubblesort?

This looks like just a list sorted alphabetically. Which unfortunately doesn't work for the use case. But has been a problem in computing for like literally 70 years.

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a4ng3l 11 points a year ago

But your explanation is sooooo much less trendy… we’re back to reddit karma bullshit :-(

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CanadaPlus 4 points a year ago

I don't think we ever left. Or that Reddit invented the circlejerk, for that matter.

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Ganbat 27 points a year ago

AI

This kinda shit is as old as computers.

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Muaddib -4 points a year ago

So is AI

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Ganbat 4 points a year ago

Errors such as this have been occurring by human hands for decades, while adversarial networks and language models capable of making the same error have only been available for a few years. As such, attributing all such errors to AI is foolish, as humans have already proven capable of making the same types of mistakes.

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chuckleslord 2 points a year ago

No, it isn't. The neutral network was invented in 1943. The first digital computer (what we would think of as a computer) was invented in 1938. The Turing Machine concept was created in 1936.

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CanadaPlus 4 points a year ago

Actually trainable neural networks were way later than that, even.

Then again, AI = neural network is very recent definition, like just a few years, which is probably what OP meant.

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vk6flab 12 points a year ago

.. and this is why we use YYYY-MM-DD as the date format.

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ICastFist 1 point a year ago

twenty twenty five, august, five

two thousand and twenty five, february first

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Deceptichum 11 points a year ago

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kickeriekuh 11 points a year ago

In German, numbers are spoken from left to right, as in English, but ones and tens are always swapped. So 23 becomes three, twenty, and 135 becomes one hundred, five, and thirty:

Achter Stock (8)
Achtzehnter Stock (18)
Achtundzwanzigster Stock (28)
Dreizehnter Stock (13)
Dreiundzwanzigster Stock (23)
Dritter Stock (3)
Einundzwanzigster Stock (21)
Elfter Stock (11)
Erdgeschoss (0)
Erster Stock (1)
...

Oh, and the first floor is called the ground floor and is not counted.

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bandwidthcrisis 1 point a year ago

The UK also has the off-by-one floor numbering.

Also a nursery rhyme with the line "four and twenty blackbirds"!

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BuboScandiacus 1 point a year ago

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JcbAzPx 3 points a year ago

That is only one and ten blackbirds.

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bandwidthcrisis 3 points a year ago

There are probably some that you can't see.

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falseWhite 4 points a year ago

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probable_possum 3 points a year ago

Should have been digits

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JohnnyCanuck 10 points a year ago

1, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 2, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 3, 30...

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probable_possum 2 points a year ago

Huh. 101.

Maybe the comparable.is_greater_than(int) function needs some work. Or someone compared strings. :)

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JohnnyCanuck 2 points a year ago

Or someone compared strings.

Yes, that's my joke. Using digits in a string list isn't enough, you have to be smart with your sorting and sort the numbers before you make the string list for your drop down.

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balsoft 2 points a year ago

❯ touch `seq 1 100`
❯ ls
1    18  27  36  45  54  63  72  81  90
10   19  28  37  46  55  64  73  82  91
100  2	 29  38  47  56  65  74  83  92
11   20  3   39  48  57  66  75  84  93
12   21  30  4	 49  58  67  76  85  94
13   22  31  40  5   59  68  77  86  95
14   23  32  41  50  6	 69  78  87  96
15   24  33  42  51  60  7   79  88  97
16   25  34  43  52  61  70  8	 89  98
17   26  35  44  53  62  71  80  9   99

(Do I need to tell you how many times I fucked up like this myself?)

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boonhet 5 points a year ago

Those are file names, there’s no reason to assume that they would be numerical which is why ls does the right thing.

I’m of the opinion that if you want to store numbers as strings and also sort them, you give them a fixed length and leading zeroes.

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balsoft 2 points a year ago

I agree that it does "the right thing", that is it behaves as documented. But that "right thing" could be surprising to a human.

There's ls -v which does "version sort" which would seem like a more reasonable default, at least for human consumption. I know it's impossible to change now because a bajillion tools all over the place depend on the sort order.

However new tools like eza do this by default:

❯ eza
1  6   11  16  21  26  31  36  41  46  51  56  61  66  71  76  81  86  91  96
2  7   12  17  22  27  32  37  42  47  52  57  62  67  72  77  82  87  92  97
3  8   13  18  23  28  33  38  43  48  53  58  63  68  73  78  83  88  93  98
4  9   14  19  24  29  34  39  44  49  54  59  64  69  74  79  84  89  94  99
5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65  70  75  80  85  90  95  100

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luciferofastora 1 point a year ago