Doctors Say AI Use Is Almost Certainly Linked to Developing Psychosis

8 months ago by ThefuzzyFurryComrade to c/fuck_ai

More and more doctors are agreeing that using AI chatbots is linked to the delusional, cases of psychosis.
queermunist 58 points 8 months ago

Talking to a hallucination is, in fact, not good for you.

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jaredwhite 57 points 8 months ago

Who knew that "simulating" human conversations based on extruded text strings that have no basis in grounded reality or fact could send people into spirals of delusion?

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minorkeys 36 points 8 months ago

Are companies who force employees to use LLMs going to be liable for the mental health issues they produce?

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underisk 24 points 8 months ago

Should they be? Absolutely. Will they be? lol

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pyrinix 33 points 8 months ago
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Gullible 8 points 8 months ago

Good small talk tutorial. Terrible everything else

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pyrinix 12 points 8 months ago
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flowers_galore2 7 points 8 months ago

Hey now, my walls are perfect companions, they may be silently judging me but they are always supportive and never sycophantic.

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Quetzalcutlass 5 points 8 months ago

Don't forget to check if the wall is load-bearing before relying on it for support.

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FosterMolasses 25 points 8 months ago

One recent peer-reviewed case study focused on a 26-year-old woman who was hospitalized twice after she believed ChatGPT was allowing her to talk with her dead brother

I feel like the bar for the turing test is lower than ever... You can't tell ChatGPT apart from your own relatives??

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ivanafterall 16 points 8 months ago

My cousin lost her young daughter a few years back. At Christmas, she had used AI to put her daughter in her Christmas photo. I didn't have words, because it made her so happy, and I can't fathom her grief, but man. Felt pretty fucked.

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TheOakTree 3 points 8 months ago

I feel you. I can't deny the comfort it brought her, but I also can't help but feel like it is training her to reject her grief.

Not that I'm in any position to pass judgement. I just hope it doesn't lead to anything more severe.

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Zachariah 21 points 8 months ago

So the developing psychosis could be causing the AI use?

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Bonifratz 28 points 8 months ago

That's what the article says, yes:

“The technology might not introduce the delusion, but the person tells the computer it’s their reality and the computer accepts it as truth and reflects it back, so it’s complicit in cycling that delusion,” Sakata told the WSJ.

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Jax 7 points 8 months ago

Thing that tells you exactly what you want to hear causes delusions?

Whaaat?

I completely understand why articles like this need to exist. Information about what 'AI' actually is needs to be spread. That being said, I also can't remove myself from the impression that this is just incredibly obvious. Like one of those studies about whether a dog actually loves their owner by going to lengths such as an MRI of their brain while looking at their owner.

Like, thank you mystery researcher on the internet — but you could have saved the helium by just sticking to Occam's Razor.

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NachBarcelona 7 points 8 months ago

"Doctors say"!

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sol6_vi 13 points 8 months ago

One could call it... Cyberpsychosis?

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Zacryon 4 points 8 months ago

I'd say know your tools. People misusing "stuff" and being vulnerable to it in general is nothing new. Yet, in a lot of cases, we rely on independence and maturity in the decisions people make. This is no different to LLMs. However, of course meaningful (technological) safeguards should be implemented wherever possible.

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Amberskin 6 points 8 months ago

By their own nature, there is no way to implement robust safeguards in a LLM. The technology is toxic and the best that could happen is anything else, hopefully not based on brute forcing the production of a stream of tokens, is developer and makes obvious LLMs are a false path, a road that should not be taken.

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MummysLittleBloodSlut 2 points 8 months ago

If AI is that dangerous, it should need a licence to use, same as a gun or car or heavy machinery.

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data_science_rocks -23 points 8 months ago
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prole 15 points 8 months ago

You increase the sample size, you increase the number of hits.

Do you think statisticians aren't well aware of this?

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data_science_rocks -12 points 8 months ago
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FosterMolasses 10 points 8 months ago

If the statisticians involved in this case study are anywhere close to as unhinged as you are then it's no wonder they got those results lol

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NoModsNoMasters 2 points 8 months ago

Homie been smokin’ them data science rocks, it seems.

Literally made an account on this instance just to let them know I think they’re fucking dense, but I decided they’re not even worth interacting with personally.

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Bonifratz 6 points 8 months ago

Huh? The whole point of this emerging scientific debate is that AI use might be proportionally unsafe, i. e. it might be a risk factor causing and/or exacerbating psychosis. Now sure this is still just a hypothesis and it's too early to make definite epidemiological statements, but it's just as wrong to blankly state that AI is "still just as safe".

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data_science_rocks -19 points 8 months ago
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Bonifratz 11 points 8 months ago

Alright, but the point is that the "X level of safety" AI is at might be a dangerous level in the first place. I don't think anybody is arguing that AI got more dangerous as a psychosis risk factor over the past year or so, they're arguing that AI was a risk factor to begin with, and with increased AI use more evidence of this turns up. So you saying that the inherent risk of AI hasn't changed is kind of a moot point because that's not what the debate is about.

Also notice that I clearly said it's too early to tell one way or the other, so there's no reason to malign me as uncritical.

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data_science_rocks -12 points 8 months ago
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Amberskin 5 points 8 months ago

How do LLM interactions compare to… Kinder eggs or lawn darts in terms of safety?

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ZDL 2 points 8 months ago

Kinder eggs are incredibly safe. Lawn darts ... less so.

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ZDL 2 points 8 months ago

I don't particularly love or hate AI ...

Says the person calling people "fucks agreeing with this shit take", and "brain-dead AI haters" and "less-critical readers" and just in this thread alone. Who knows what else I'd find in looking in your full posting history.

Not a very convincing act, even for a clank-fucker.

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data_science_rocks -3 points 8 months ago
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