Exactly. I'd taoe funny concept crudely drawn stick figures over AI slop

I’d rather see absolutely nothing instead of AI

In the beginning, people used simple programs like ms paint with a mouse to draw. I use my phone's editor to draw stuff. Have a cat

Yes

If it's funny enough, the art is secondary. If the at is perfect, the joke still needs to be at least passable.

Just because it's human made, doesn't mean it's automatically good.

Sometimes the bad art becomes its own part of the joke (xkcd).

Man, I suuuuck at drawing and painting. But (up until the last couple weeks I guess) I've been making and posting my shitty ass, MS Paintesque paintings and collages. Why?

Because you and I are humans and creative expression is our fucking right.

Because you don't get better at anything unless you keep doing it.

Because people, at least here, prefer a technically shitty artistic effort to a better looking image made by a insanely thirsty software architecture owned by greedy technocrats.

Because fuck it, we can.

Post those drawings homie.

I was a beginner until I tried this one weird trick: Draw an orgy scene with Sonichu, Shrek, Goku, and Spider-man.

You are welcome in advance.

Hell yes. I would rather watch, read and listen to messy outsider art for hours and hours than consume the most polished of artificial material. I don't care how good it looks, how good it sounds, how good whatever. If it's not made by a person it means nothing to me.

EDIT: Since I brought it up... John Frusciante's first couple of albums. So weird yet so good.

One would hope, but most people prefer convenience over creation and sadly GenAI, for as much of a ripoff as it is, fills that niche for those people, It shouldn't, I don't support that in the slightest (seriously, if you want fast, easy art, just play with construction paper cutouts, that's still worlds better than typing in a prompt to get something, and it's also kinda fun on its own merits), and I hate GenAI with a passion, but it's what it is.

That said, you can still resist it by just continuing to handmake stuff like you've probably been doing since you could hold a crayon and make marks with it.

You know why I hate it even more now?

Because unaware people have started using it to generate images of our loved ones, houses, etc.

I CAN'T EVEN FUCKING TRUST A PHOTO OF MY NEPHEWS ANYMORE.

I HATE that. If my friends, family and home aren't refuges against that AI shit, then what the fuck is?!

Same here. AI slop has turned me (and my brother) off of YouTube shorts. Like 80-90% of the content is AI, and you have to play detective for most of them (to find out it's AI generated) 

Admins can apply an AI tag to communities (including remote ones on Lemmy instances) and then all the posts in those communities automatically get the AI tag. Same as NSFW.

I mean admins can label it in Lemmy too. But we just call it "ban" :P

I haven't used it but I have seen piefed peeps talking about it being able to tag it as mods.

I was trying to figure out how this works.

I work in marketing. My job hires a lot of contractors whose goal is to post garbage all over the internet to shit on our competitors, and promote the company. Real humans who post on Reddit in a specific shadowy way.

I have no doubt in my mind that they use AI.

We're going to need a Butlerian jihad at the rate this is going.

Though exactly like NSFW/NSFL and bot posts (which people avoid so replying can feel like a honeypot experience where a conversation was invited but unlikely to be fruitful, since even the poster themselves will never read your message), it's not only the item itself but rather the lack of proper labeling. AI slop could arguably, theoretically, for some people (I'm trying to frame this so as to lessen the chances of being flamed here!) be enjoyable, but cannot be acceptable in the wider community unless properly labeled. This "restriction" enables us to be more fully free to have our own enjoyment of this shared space.

Edit: for context, I had not even gotten to the existing flame war down below your comment yet, but somehow I knew it was coming! The Threadiverse seems to love to hate on AI almost as much as Windows and tankies!:-P (and ironically all for the same underlying reason: because consent should matter, even/especially when others say differently)

Hold up, I always thought James wrote the shitty fanfic, then rewrote so it wasn't a Twilight thing anymore. Curious as to the actual story.

People do not respect artists and with the internet and digital art making it the easiest time in human history to get art, people feel entitled to art. They don't respect the time and effort that artists put into creating something and don't think that their skills are worth paying for, even when they're demanding that they produce content for them.

In this regard, GenAI has become a real plague because the kinds of people who would make great middle managers - taking credit for the effort of others - now have access to the skill required to make "good art" without having to pay for nor respect the labor required. GenAI lets your average person treat artists the way that corporations treat their employees.

I can't wait until the free rides end and they finally understand how much their slop actually costs.

Never seen someone tell on themselves like this so hard

How many art communities do you follow?

There are dedicated communities where people post their art?

I've seen lots of art on here.

seen lots of jokes too...

Real question: what do you call art?

I've seen plenty of art here. Subjective quality/technical prowess certainly varies, but art nonetheless.

You're an AI so that's not a problem for you, right?

There's no gray area about the resource cost and contribution to climate change being driven by gen AI though, youre just trying to justify it.

doesn't hurt anyone

Yeah your one image that one time didn't necessarily hurt anyone but climate change getting kicked up a notch from the absurd amounts of carbon generated by millions of those kinds of images absolutely will literally kill and destroy lives.

Generative ai is just a tool for creating text and images. Not everything created using is art, just like not every piece of text written by a human or an bunch of pixels drawn in photoshop is art. What matters is intention of the author, the effort put in and whether other people perceive it as art.

It silly to call everything created by ai as art, but not because of the tool used. Most of it is not art simply because it was not created for that purpose, it is there for pure silly entertainment.

It is equally silly to vehemently hate it if the creator does not even claim it's art.

Most AI generated things is just shit, especially to look at, if you can't recognize 99% of AI generated images then there is a problem tbh.

Thought it's real that sometimes people exaggerate and hate the use of AI for everthing when there are clearly some good uses.

people can't tell when I spit onetheir food… I guess that means it's perfectly fine for them to eat spit, right?… good to know

"I think it's funny that people are upset about a new technology which will 1000% have incredibly destructive effects on society"

Congratulations on being whatever that makes you? It's not good.