CIA assesses Ukraine was not targeting a Putin residence in drone attack, contrary to Kremlin claim, sources say

10 months ago by MicroWave to c/world

The CIA has assessed Ukraine was not targeting a residence used by Russian President Vladimir Putin in a recent drone attack in the north of his country, according to US officials, undercutting an assertion the Russian president had made to Trump in a Monday phone call.

The CIA has assessed Ukraine was not targeting a residence used by Russian President Vladimir Putin in a recent drone attack in the north of his country, according to US officials, undercutting an assertion the Russian leader had made to President Donald Trump in a Monday phone call.

The CIA’s director John Ratcliffe briefed Trump on the assessment Wednesday, the officials said.

Sources said Ratcliffe later briefed Trump that the CIA did not believe it was true. And on Wednesday, Trump appeared to have adopted a more skeptical posture toward posting, posting a link to a New York Post editorial on Truth Social with the headline, “Putin ‘attack’ bluster shows Russia is the one standing in the way of peace.” The Post’s editorial board noted it was “rich that Putin, who has waged a brutal war for nearly four years, believes that any violence in his vicinity merits special outrage” and asserted that “Any attack on Putin is more than justified.”

TigerAce 85 points 10 months ago

So what if they targeted him? He's a war criminal, a legitimate target.

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pmk 48 points 10 months ago

It matters if future security guarantees are conditional on Ukraine not attacking Russia. If Russia can claim they were attacked without any fact checking now, they might do the same in the future when it matters more. Showing Russia that their claims are not automatically believed is positioning for the future.

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TigerAce 17 points 10 months ago

Fair

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logicbomb 19 points 10 months ago

In countries where the military is aggressively attacking non-combatants in other countries, their war criminal leaders are the most legitimate targets imaginable.

Life isn't exactly like chess, in that in life, it's not always enough to eliminate the king. But, if you keep eliminating king after king until somebody reasonable assumes control, it seems like the least bloody way to end conflict.

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phutatorius 2 points 9 months ago

I don't know of any historical precedent where assassinating the leader of a nation-state, and their successors, has actually happened and accomplished anything, unless it was backed by much wider use of force, such as an invasion.

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dublet 2 points 10 months ago

Stepping on the tail only angers the snake. In order to defeat it, one must strike at the head.

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Bwaz 5 points 10 months ago

Fucksake, yes. If there were a fund I could donate to specifically for financing drones to target every place that SOB lies his head, I'd be writing checks to it today.

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atzanteol 3 points 10 months ago

Soldiers are killed on the battlefield. Kings are ransomed.

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rammer 10 points 10 months ago

Should be the other way around. It's the kings who want war. Not the soldiers.

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atzanteol 2 points 10 months ago

Oh, absolutely. But that world doesn't exist.

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phutatorius 1 point 9 months ago

War criminals are legitimate targets? Well then...

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homes 43 points 10 months ago

Regardless, you can count on Trump to repeat whatever Putin tells him to say.

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HazardousBanjo 34 points 10 months ago

I wouldn't care if Ukraine deployed the fucking Hammer of Dawn onto all of Putin's properties and every Russian government building.

Russia is the aggressor and Putin is a fascist tyrant. The Russian state must be liquidated and Putin should be either executed or sentenced to life by the Hague.

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TwinTitans 2 points 10 months ago

This exactly. Boot up Goldeneye and get them the fuck out.

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phutatorius -5 points 9 months ago

Well, if you support Ukraine going after fascist tyrants that are working against it, where might that end?

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phoenixz 29 points 10 months ago

But what if it was?

Russia would quite happily kill zelenski given any chance and when peace does come, with Putin left in power, I guarantee you that he'll try to assassinate zelenski at the first possible moment

Sorry, but not sorry, Putin is a legitimate target and if killed might end this war (not to mention make the world a little better even)

Let them kill Putin, I only see upsides. This has nothing to do with him being Russian or whatever, this is him being a megalomaniac dictator who loves murdering people all the fucking time. How many people have been assassinated by now in Russia? How many outside Russia? Putin is a fucking menace to anyone, he needs to go

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phutatorius 5 points 9 months ago

There have already been several failed assassination attempts against Zelenskyy.

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Railcar8095 4 points 9 months ago

*"It's not the same"

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AnUnusualRelic 4 points 10 months ago

I think the issue was that Putin wasn't there at the time. Only his daughter (i think) was, or possibly some other close member of his family.

Apart from that, I agree that Putin is a perfectly valid target, commander in chief and all that.

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titanicx 19 points 10 months ago

I mean honestly doesn't really matter. If you're in a state of war then all military targets are accessible. The leader of the country you're fighting with is certainly a military target. Also Putin's a dumbass and really should fucking die.

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ryannathans -6 points 9 months ago

Maduro was fairly kidnapped then?

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TheEighthDoctor 5 points 9 months ago

Last time I checked US is not at war with any country

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ryannathans -1 points 9 months ago

If you want to call taking over an entire country for their resources not war you gotta be deluded

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toppy 18 points 10 months ago

I don't get it. It's war. Ukraine can attack anybody.

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DrFistington 15 points 10 months ago

No shit. If Ukraine were going to do, they'd still be trying to dig putins corpse out of a pile of rubble

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Asfalttikyntaja 13 points 10 months ago

Russians are lying? Who would have guessed?

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wonderingwanderer 12 points 10 months ago

If only the POTUS would wait to hear from his intelligence officials before making public comments based on the word of an evil, lying, psychopathic dictator...

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Duamerthrax 11 points 9 months ago

And if they were, so what?

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tomiant 10 points 10 months ago

The Russians were LYING? I don't know what to say, I really thought higher of them.

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Tja 2 points 10 months ago

Must be the first time they have done such a thing!

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manuallybreathing 0 points 10 months ago

Source: the CIA

lol, reassess your beliefs

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SkyezOpen 1 point 9 months ago

Reassess your love for dictators.

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Geobloke 1 point 10 months ago path: 0 21329085 21335105 21337427, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
SaharaMaleikuhm 10 points 9 months ago

I mean, I think they really should target Putin. I'd love that actually.

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vga 1 point 9 months ago
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Xittstorm 7 points 10 months ago

It would be entirely acceptable that the country that a war criminal invaded targets said war criminal. But why would the rest of the world listen to the war criminal's lies regardless?

I guess war criminals stick together.

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BanMe 7 points 10 months ago

Eh Trump will call the CIA fags and say Putin's far more trustworthy

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stringere 3 points 10 months ago

Or have them link it to Venezuela in some way so they can blow up more ports.

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stringere 1 point 10 months ago

Or have them link it to Venezuela in some way so they can blow up more ports.

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Rhoeri 6 points 9 months ago

And who cares if they did?

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TheJesusaurus 5 points 10 months ago

Why would it matter that they did?

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SaharaMaleikuhm 3 points 9 months ago

Be a lot cooler if they did.

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Alaik 4 points 10 months ago

5 people fired at the CIA in 10.... 9...

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phutatorius 3 points 9 months ago

Well, next story will be Trump firing senior CIA officials in retaliation for undermining Trump's parroting of Putin's lies.

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falseWhite 4 points 9 months ago
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Th3D3k0y 2 points 10 months ago

My assumption is that since magically every single drone without fail was shot down and they masterfully saved the mansion from this devastating attack is that... Russia sent the drones themselves at the mansion so they could shoot them down and blame Ukraine for attacking "civilian" targets, because Russia would never attack civvies.

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Formfiller 2 points 10 months ago

I wish they would

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grue 1 point 10 months ago

Too bad.

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Earthman_Jim 1 point 10 months ago

obviously

it makes no strategic sense to attack one of his many fun-houses

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chonglibloodsport 1 point 9 months ago

At this point I’m surprised when Putin is telling the truth. He lies so much it’s just easier to assume he’s lying and wait to see if there’s actually any evidence for what he’s saying.

I predicted that this story about an attack on his residence was a lie. Putin does not want peace. Every time they get closer to an agreement he pulls back. He knows that the peace will lead to him getting Gaddafi’d.

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manuallybreathing -2 points 10 months ago

Ya'll should consider changing lemmy.world to lemmy.world-cia

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drmoose 5 points 10 months ago

Only after you change lemmy.ml to lemmy.megalosers

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vegeta -3 points 10 months ago

chuuuu

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ArgumentativeMonotheist -3 points 10 months ago

Well, if the CIA says it...

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Earthman_Jim 10 points 10 months ago

Well, if Putin says it...

Fucking obviously Ukraine didn't waste ordinance on one of his fake houses. He lives underground where he belongs.

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atzanteol 4 points 10 months ago

It's a Russian friendly source, so may be believable.

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