Luigi Mangione heads to court as he fights to block death penalty, murder charge and key evidence

9 months ago by dude to c/news

Luigi Mangione is due in federal court for a pivotal hearing in his fight to bar the government from seeking the death penalty against him in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson
Nomad 27 points 9 months ago

He looks tired to the bone. They are working him over good in prison.

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Etterra 7 points 9 months ago

I believe in Luigi.

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FiniteBanjo -117 points 9 months ago

He should have made a guilty plea deal if he was so worried about the consequences of his actions. Does he think he gets to sentence others to death but others shouldn't be allowed to do the same to him?

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webghost0101 55 points 9 months ago

What are you even saying? Of course they are going to fight the charges, this has zero to do with being worried and a guilty plea deal would be the worst idea.

We don’t know if Luigi actually did anything, the state was looking for someone to arrest. Can we truly trust the evidence wasn’t planted to avoid the bad PR of admitting they can’t find who did it?

And while he is not even proven guilty of the crime, death penalty is already being discussed? Lacks any resemblance to justice.

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FiniteBanjo -62 points 9 months ago

Using a plea deal would mean less harsh sentencing. It might be his only way to survive and drastically reduce his time in Prison.

The evidence against him is overwhelming. No Allibi, he designed and printed the parts used in the murder weapon on his computer, he has a history of violent rhetoric online such as a book review for the book title carved into the casings, and he was caught fleeing the scene with a backpack full of $20,000.

Now, he's going to die for his stupidity and pride. He should have just been a man and owned up to it, not killing and then fleeing like a little rat bastard.

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webghost0101 21 points 9 months ago

If the evidence is indeed overwhelming and procedures are following correctly then justice will be served.

In either scenario pleading guilty is a mistake:

If he did not do it then he should not be punished and fight all charges against his innocence. I hope thats a given

But if he did do it then he is really representing a cause to “fight back against the system” therefore the goal is to drag this case out and maximise news coverage to highlight that cause and possibly become a martyr. Not to admit wrong and look weak and regretful.

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FiniteBanjo -42 points 9 months ago

I wonder if you or him will feel stupid when they announce he's getting the chair or the rope.

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Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In 18 points 9 months ago

The evidence against him is overwhelming.

Your list is all circumstantial. The chain of custody for actual evidence (the gun) has a 8min hole.

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FiniteBanjo -7 points 9 months ago

It's on video when the officer pulls it out of his bag. What gets admitted to the court, due to lack of miranda rights reading, aside you and I both know that was his gun that he made himself.

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EtherWhack 36 points 9 months ago

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FiniteBanjo -18 points 9 months ago

No, I unironically think Luigi was an idiot who threw his life away to kill a man who was replaced in a single evening, helping no one in the process.

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ajoebyanyothername 2 points 9 months ago

Allegedly.

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Derveron 6 points 9 months ago

Just as a question out of curiosity and without judgement. Should the same also apply to the rest of the murders happening all across or just when a person of high financial value is the target? For example the numerous cases happening around law enforcement and similar institutions?

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FiniteBanjo -8 points 9 months ago

Murder is Murder and must be prosecuted without any immunity.

I haven't heard any news about law enforcement killings since that story about Derek Chauvin being stabbed dozens of times in prison ( lol ) but maybe you're referring to the story about the criminal gang ICE who abduct random people without real warrants? That guy should face trial for murder. So should Pete Hegseth. And get Kristi Neom fpr obstruction and conspiracy to commit a murder, too.

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Juice 2 points 9 months ago

I haven't heard any news about law enforcement killings

There have been numerous, high profile murders/lynchings by police since May 25, 2020.

Also, just to be totally current, ICE shot a woman in the face this week, Renee Nicole Good. Also, an off duty ICE agent in Los Angeles shot one of his neighbors, Keith Porter, and has not been arrested.

It doesnt sound like you support racist, murderous cops; and it sounds like you are rightly angered by ICE. I just wanted to be clear about a few things.

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