On Wednesday, a new study published in JAMA by researchers at the University of Washington in Seattle projected that by 2035, nearly half of all American adults, about 126 million individuals, will be living with obesity.
The study draws on data from more than 11 million participants via the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s National Health and Nutrition Examination and Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System, and from the independent Gallup Daily Survey.
The projections show a striking increase in the prevalence of obesity over the past few decades in the U.S. In 1990, only 19.3% of U.S. adults were obese, according to the study. That figure more than doubled to 42.5% by 2022, and is forecast to reach 46.9% by 2035.
Don't worry, just slather some beef tallow on your skin, have an undercooked burger, and enjoy reaping the instant health benefits.
I mean...those undercooked burgers do have a good chance of helping you lose weight...
Fuck yea, MAHA high five! 🙏
Unless they are grains and legumes.
We're already eating other metaphorically, we can just start doing it literally too
Wasn't she a stripper?
We named the skinny one: Obesity. It made a bit more sense when he was younger.
Low quality, high carb food is profitable. Our western diet is built around a carb diet. While approximately half the population does fairly well, weight wise, the other half does not because their bodies preferentially store carb calories as fat.
That said I struggled with my weight although I was very active. Due to health issues I switched to a low carb diet more like the one I grew up with - mostly protein, high fat ( good fats like fatty fish, nuts, butter, olive oil and coconut oil), and reasonable amounts of complex carbohydrates. Weigh came off without exercise or any other effort. BTW, the calories in, the calories out approach is just plain wrong. Carbs MAKE you hungry.
You only have one shot at this life so why would you burden yourself lugging around 50 pounds, 100 pounds or more everywhere you go.
By what criteria are you classifying coconut oil as a good fat? The way I understand it fats going from worst to best go something like trans fat, saturated fat, unsaturated fat, omega 3. Coconut oil is nearly 100% saturated fat, moreso than butter which is around 80%. So if coconut oil is good then so is butter.
I will say it's somewhat marginal on the health benefits of unsaturated vs saturated though, so I will continue to use coconut oil but not sure it's any better than other fats.
Your understanding is the one I was taught throughout university but there is a competing vision where saturated fats aren't bad. The people who talk about the evils of seed oils tend to believe this. I haven't looked into it in a few years but there are lots of internet doctors/health influencers who can walk you through the reasoning if you are interested. I didn't find the arguments too compelling but I've also been bored of extreme diets for a bit so I may be biased.
Then there are those of us who embrace saturated fats (in moderation) and seed oils.
wow. stop with this crazy talk.
next thing you know you'll tell me that eating a boring balanced diet that doesn't exceed my caloric needs is how i maintain a healthy weight. because clearly that can't be it... it has to be a secret nutritional key to unlocking weight loss.
Any evidence of Health harms from seed oils are going to be from the chemicals used in the production of those plants, not from the oils of those seeds themselves. Just throwing that out there because the cynical motherfuckers in maha will not.
the marketing criteria that convinces them to pay a lot more for it than other oils.
hence why they also are going on about calories not being a thing, and basically telling people to go by the most expensive foods as a means to lose weight.
a lot of 'experts' on nutrition are just welathy dumbasses who believe marketing slop and are under the guise that if they pay 20/lb for salmon it's 'better' than chicken that's 5/lb
half the population does well weight wise is the rich part that buys better quality food, goes to the doctor regularly, and exercises.
And that's after US MDs successfully petitioned to re define the threshold of obesity and morbid obesity.
They did that in the early 2000s too. Tens of millions of people became obese over night and we suddenly had an obesity epidemic.
uh no, they keep making the bar higher. America has an obesity epidemic because it's fat. Most Americans don't leave the country, but you don't see fat sloppy people in European urban centres.
I used to be 330; I'm 5'8". I got down to 220 through diet and exercise. That's still obese. I did 10k on the Nordictrack this morning, can run a 7 minute mile, and routinely do full-body weight lifting including 10x140 chest presses and 10x300 leg presses. I'm now up to 260, which is even worse obese.
I don't know how to get to a healthy BMI and I know I'm routinely failing to get there, but I'm trying.
Talk to your doctor. BMI is a crude metric that doesn't distinguish between fat and muscle. For understanding population level statistics, this is good enough. But for individuals it can be highly misleading; particularly those that do strength training.
If you wanted to lower your BMI, there is a good chance that stopping all weight lifting would do that for you. But that would probably make you less healthy, despite "improving" your BMI.
@bss03 @MicroWave BMI isn't everything. It sounds like you are in great fitness. What does your Dr. say? How's the bloodwork? It's going to say more about health risks than only BMI
Cholesterol was high last time, but normal the time before that. Magnesium was normal this time, but high the time before. Dr. seems to think things are fine (or at least hasn't called me out on anything), with the exception of my BP, which is fine with my current prescription, but will baseline to 150+ if I go off it. BP isn't sodium sensitive; still goes to 150+ on a very low (near minimum) sodium diet.
Definitely a lot better than when I was 330 and didn't have my prescription.
why are you talking about weight when you should be measuring body fat?
Weight lifters weigh more because muscle is heavy.
Yeah, I should get an 8-contact machine for home to get good BF% numbers.
That said, it's not hard to find the excess fat on my body, so while I don't have good measurements, I know my BF% is also still too high. I have promised myself that if I can get a visible "6-pack", I'll stop worrying about weight so much, but I doubt that will happen soon.
Weight and BMI are easier for most people (including myself) to habitually track, especially individually. But I agree that BF% is the better metric.
Lose weight with cardio first, then try to gain muscle.
I did. I didn't start lifting until I had my cardio doing much better. IIRC, I started lifting after I is a sub-30min 5km for 28 days in a row. But, I might have did some lifting before then.
Cardio is more my priority because the NIH recommendations are primarily about cardio, with weight/resistance training being secondary. I need to get my running / treadmill 10km to under an hour -- the Nordictrack^tm^ lets me do a sub-hour 10km, but I'm not sure it's getting my HR up quite as much as treadmill time. I find it easier to keep myself in "zone 2" on a treadmill with HR sensors in some hand grip.
you work out too much.
all that muscle needs fat to support it's energy. you need to lose both.
i lose weight quickly when i stop working out. both fat and muscle. also weight work increases you bone density.
basically stop being so demanding on your body and it won't have to 'bulk' so much. lighten up on the exercise.
I only do 2 days a week lifting, that's the NIH recommendation. Granny wants to do 3, but that doesn't currently fit into the rest of my life.
I would do cardio every day, but things get in the way of that often, too.
because you are working out too much. you should be working out like half of that or less.
NIH recommends like 20m of moderate activity, a day. You are probably doing 10x that. their version of lifting weights is like 10lb dumbells and 5lb ankle weights. not full body lifting.
it sounds like you're training for athletic competition, not exercise. most people who exercise regularly can't even do 10K on a nordic track, and you're doing it in zone 2.
10K on a nordic track
My 5k treadmill times are about novice: https://runninglevel.com/running-times/5k-times
My 10k treadmill times are about beginner: https://runninglevel.com/running-times/10k-times
(I'm 45.)
I'm not going to discourage a low level of exercise (or even not exercise, but activity), but I think the NIH recommendations reflect that my peer group (I'm a professional programmer and hobbist gamer; so pretty sedentary outside of intentional exercise) are very unhealthy.
NIH recommends 150-300 minutes of moderate activity (or 75-150 minutes of strenuous activity) every week. If I keep my HR in the 130s for 60 minutes, that's ~120 *minutes" due to the intensity. I don't 10k every day, usually only once a week.
When I did the 5k every day that was too much. But 5 days/week or 3 5ks and 1 10k per week is just about right, as long as I keep up the intensity (if they get too easy, I can increase distance or grade or resistance to maintain HR for the right amount of minutes).
their version of lifting weights is like 10lb dumbells and 5lb ankle weights. not full body lifting
They specifically mention resistance across all muscle groups and recommend a single set (8-12 reps). They imply that weight should be increased, rather than increasing the number of sets, with muscle fatigue being a a good measurement of effectiveness.
Adults should also do muscle-strengthening activities of moderate or greater intensity and that involve all major muscle groups on 2 or more days a week
(from pg. 56)
muscle-strengthening exercises should be performed to the point at which it would be difficult to do another repetition. When resistance training is used to enhance muscle strength, one set of 8 to 12 repetitions of each exercise is effective,
(from pg. 61)
Unfortunately what works for one person might not work for the next. I tried to lose and keep weight off for years without much success, but for me finally getting on thyroid medicine helped get it off for good. Turns out I was snacking because I was so fatigued all the time. It's a frustrating process to try and find what works for you, especially when everyone just says it's all calories in vs calories out.
I haven't really looked into them, so I'm not sure. I guess it would depend on risks and side-effects. I do think they would help me consume fewer calories by reducing how much I overeat,, so they could be worth it.
I lost about 100lbs on mounjaro. I love how it has changed my relationship with food, and silenced the cravings for unhealthy foods. My doctor was supportive of me taking GLP-1s. Some people say it's not for them, but it has been wonderful for me.
If you want to be toned, don't do max weight low reps, do high reps lower weight and stop trying to get stronger. I lost weight but was just getting physically bigger and not looking more muscular, only my belly and double chin went away but I stayed basically the same size. I felt a lot healthier tho, just generally good and had no issues being active at edm festivals, I quit working out and I looked skinnier after a while, but feel weaker now that it's been two years.
I preferred being bigger and feeling strong over now where I can fit large instead of xl but can't be active for as long without pain. I personally only enjoy the gym when I'm going for a new max weight for every set every week. Ik logically that gaining muscle and lifting heavier should lead to more calories burned naturally and should lead to losing weight and looking less big, but id just gain muscle under my fat layer and look bigger.
I'm not trying to get bigger. I'm following the NIH guidelines to do 1 set of 10 reps and move weight up if/when you can do 2 sets.
I was at 10x280 on the leg press for over a year, but I noticed it getting "too easy" a few weeks ago. Bicep curls still kill my left arm, and I can only do about 60 on those.
dude curling 60 is huge. most people can't do 30. you're not gonna be a small guy when you're curling 60
I think most people give their single-arm / free-weight curl weight. I can only do about 25 on my left arm with that. (My right arm does more and doesn't hurt in the same way.)
The curl machine I use has both hands on the same bar, and that's how I can do 60. I don't mean to be confusing, but I often have trouble talking about lifting because I'm entirely self-taught and didn't start paying attention to what I was doing until I was like 40. (I avoided exercise for most of my life.)
That said, I'm doing more weight than many people in the gym, so I'm not small. On the hip extension and the rotary abdominal / oblique machines, I do the whole stack 170 lbs. and then +20 lbs.
No shade to people no matter what they can lift. Honestly, I'm more proud of what my 93-year-old grandma does, and it is understandably much less. Health the goal, not weight. You just move the weight up to make sure you are continuing to exert.
Are we just using bmi because I have this friend who is a refrigerator. Short, stocky, all muscle. Bmi is something like morbid obesity back when they used the term. She had no fat weight to lose, she needed to gain fat. Or height I guess. Best clown and drummer I ever worked with.
that isn't the majority of people
i'm talking about my drummer friend not most people
If you doubt BMI (like many of the replies I got to my other comment), you can probably ignore this study:
Design, Setting, and Participants Analysis of measured body mass index data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey and bias-corrected body mass index values calculated from self-reported height and weight data from the Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System and Gallup Daily Survey using spatiotemporal gaussian process regression and an ensemble of annualized rate of change and meta-regression bayesian spline models. Surveys for input data were conducted using population-based sampling by state and by race and ethnicity group with a total of 11 315 421 US participants.
Main Outcomes and Measures Obesity prevalence (BMI ≥30).
So, one reason I'm concerned about my BMI (39.5 kg/m^2^) is because I'm making my country look bad. Tho, with Trump at the helm, my contributions to that effort are overshadowed.
It'd be cool if they stopped lacing all the food with high fructose corn syrup.
Incorrect. Fat shot drug is available as fat pill drug. They have or are working on children’s version. We will eat nothing and be happy. Also alcoholism will sharply decline
doesn't work unless you stay on the drugs for life.
people on GPL drugs who stop using them gain 70% of the weight back within six months.
the issue is lifestyle. americans eat too much and don't exercise enough. GPL drugs just make it so they eat less, but they still eat the same crap they did before so 2000 calories of hamburgers and fries (the small instead of the large). so once they go off the drug they go right back to eating 4000 calories a day.
the issue is that you shouldn't be eating hamburgers and fries regularly, no matter the portion. a lot americans eat a daily diet that is suppose to be sometimes foods. everyday foods should be bland and in smaller portions. asian and european diets are way more full of basic grains, veg, and lean meats.
american food system is loaded with junk that makes you want to eat more of it. lots of processed crap, fatty meats, and added sugar/fat to everything.
And the demographics cargo train is already on its way for another victim
How do you think this is going to work when that obese population gets a little older and the next generation is going to somehow have to take care of all those people that can barely work anymore?
The demographics train is slow but when it hits, it's a motherfucker that will shred you to pieces. China and Russia too will understand this real soon
All of the farms are going bankrupt and the people who work the farms are being kidnapped and possibly mass murdered so I don’t know seems like anything could happen. In a famine they might actually be better off
Obesity cutoff-wise, a famine won't register on a national scale until a year or so down the line
Will never happen before they change the definition of what medically obese is.
It's been changed twice.
to what?
the average american consumes 3500-4000 calories... per day.
a person of healthy weight typically burns 1800-2600 calories a day.
we weight almost TWICE what we need. a lot of Americans could lose weight by simple dropping calorie consumption to 2500. but they don't because food tastes good. especially fatty sugary food that has 2x your caloric need.
many americans are eating their entire daily caloric needs in a single meal. then eating 2-3 more meals on top of that.
Since they refuse to stop eating so much
Put the ozempic in the water
On one hand, it literally is as easy as "eat less". On the other, this is spoken like someone who's never struggled with anything like this, and you sound like a real ass. Bc you're right, it is as easy as "eat less", but if that were easy, wouldn't everyone be a healthy weight, then? Obesity wouldn't even be a concept, if eating less was an easy thing to do.
"easy" is definitely not the word to use, since it's clearly not easy. I think "Simple" is the better way to put it. Things can be simple, and yet extremely difficult.
Actually, eating less won't work for a lot of people and you could easily end up doing more harm to your health than the obesity is doing if you push it far enough
What you need to do is eat healthy and get regular physical activity to coax your body into metabolizing things like it should. Of course, healthy food and the space to exercise both cost money, so yeah - poverty is to social problems what boiling water is to generating energy.
Eating less will absolutely work for 100% of people. That's just physics. The problem is adjusting timeframe expectations. If it took a lifetime to gain the weight, you're not going to get rid of it with a couple months of dieting. Trying to go too fast is what causes the problem. It's like never working out a day in your life, then trying to bench 500 lbs as your first ever lift; you're going to hurt yourself.
"You will get down to your desired weight by your 92nd birthday" sounds like something that wouldn't work for a lot of people to me
You can get fat eating healthy food too. It's calories in and calories out. If you eat less than you consume you will lose weight. Eating less works for 100% of people.
You can get fat eating healthy food too.
Hence why I said "eat healthy" not "eat healthy food"
It's calories in and calories out
Hence why I said "and get regular physical activity" to raise the second part of that equation
If you eat less than you consume you will lose weight. Eating less works for 100% of people.
Eating "less" could still be more than you're consuming if you don't have any physical activity, so, no, just eating less will not work for 100% of people
but if that were easy, wouldn’t everyone be a healthy weight, then? Obesity wouldn’t even be a concept, if eating less was an easy thing to do.
Go to Europe. Any large city. You will not see an obese person. The whole point of this article is that obesity is a US culture problem, and it's regional. Amazing difference across the US/Canada border. Obesity rates in Japan are very low, but in Japanese-Americans it gets 4X higher. Americans eat bad food, and they eat too much of it, and they don't do anything physical.
There was a YT documentary about the difference between Japan and the US. Basically it boiled down to kids in Japan actually being taught how to deal with food in a healthy manner.
But Michelle Obama tried something similar in the US and people lost their fucking MINDS. Healthy food is communism!
it also makes you gay and trans.
only way to maintain heteronormativity is to eat 5000 calorie dinners at applebee's
Eat less, do more.
The one chemical Alex Jones doesn't object to the government putting in the water. I'm sure he already puts it in his
This might be the least informed comment I have ever seen online.
Obesity in the US has far more to do with food quality and food availability than quantity consumed.
@lemmy.world
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious biased sources will be removed at the mods’ discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted separately but not to the post body. Sources may be checked for reliability using Wikipedia, MBFC, AdFontes, GroundNews, etc.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source. Clickbait titles may be removed.
Posts which titles don’t match the source may be removed. If the site changed their headline, we may ask you to update the post title. Clickbait titles use hyperbolic language and do not accurately describe the article content. When necessary, post titles may be edited, clearly marked with [brackets], but may never be used to editorialize or comment on the content.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials, videos, press releases, or celebrity gossip will be allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis. Mods may use discretion to pre-approve videos or press releases from highly credible sources that provide unique, newsworthy content not available or possible in another format.
7. No duplicate posts.
If an article has already been posted, it will be removed. Different articles reporting on the same subject are permitted. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners or news aggregators.
All posts must link to original article sources. You may include archival links in the post description. News aggregators such as Yahoo, Google, Hacker News, etc. should be avoided in favor of the original source link. Newswire services such as AP, Reuters, or AFP, are frequently republished and may be shared from other credible sources.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
go to feed...
@lemmy.world
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious biased sources will be removed at the mods’ discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted separately but not to the post body. Sources may be checked for reliability using Wikipedia, MBFC, AdFontes, GroundNews, etc.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source. Clickbait titles may be removed.
Posts which titles don’t match the source may be removed. If the site changed their headline, we may ask you to update the post title. Clickbait titles use hyperbolic language and do not accurately describe the article content. When necessary, post titles may be edited, clearly marked with [brackets], but may never be used to editorialize or comment on the content.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials, videos, press releases, or celebrity gossip will be allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis. Mods may use discretion to pre-approve videos or press releases from highly credible sources that provide unique, newsworthy content not available or possible in another format.
7. No duplicate posts.
If an article has already been posted, it will be removed. Different articles reporting on the same subject are permitted. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners or news aggregators.
All posts must link to original article sources. You may include archival links in the post description. News aggregators such as Yahoo, Google, Hacker News, etc. should be avoided in favor of the original source link. Newswire services such as AP, Reuters, or AFP, are frequently republished and may be shared from other credible sources.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
go to feed...
We have an extremely fucked food supply.
save