(According to one random comment under hbomberguy's soy diet video, milk is full of mammalian sex hormones. I'm certain Nigel would be able to separate them, if that is true.)

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heliotrope 7 points 6 months ago

Nile should totally try this. For science.

(Kinda joking, but I would also honsetly find this really interesting)

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SuperNovaStar 5 points 6 months ago

Probably not true, since plenty of cis men drink milk and don't transition

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bizarroland 15 points 6 months ago

I wouldn't be surprised if there is some, but I bet an entire gallon of hormone laden milk has less estrogen than the average trans person takes on the daily.

I would be surprised if it was even measurable in whole milligrams.

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SuperNovaStar 6 points 6 months ago

Well if it was measurable in mg, that would be super bad, since oral estrogen doses for trans women are like 2-4 mg per day. For it to be consumed by men regularly with no feminizing effects, I think it would need to be at least in the picograms/gallon range.

... but then again, i'm not a doctor. I could be wrong about that.

Edit: Turns out it's more than I was expecting. Maybe if you are taking an anti-androgen you might get a noticeable amount of E in your system if you drink multiple liters of milk per day? Not that i'd recommend it, but it is interesting.

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homura1650 4 points 6 months ago

The reference levels of estrodial for males is 10-50 pg/mL.

4mg daily of oral estrodial got me from (presumably) that range to around 95 pg/mL. Let's round this to an estimate of a 50 pg/mL, or an increase of 12.5 pg/mL per mg of oral estrodial.

A gallon of milk, would have 0.000492mg of estrodial, which would translate to a 0.00615 pg/mL increase. That is about 0.0015% the reference range for cis men.

Interestingly, high testosterone levels actually increase men's estrogen levels, as testosterone gets metabolized into estrogen.

https://emedicine.medscape.com/...

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Lumelore 6 points 6 months ago

They'd need to drink more milk than humanly possible. If there was some way to drink extreme quantities of milk every day without dying it could be done.

Estrogen Table (pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4524299/table/T2/)

Estrogen Table 2 (pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4524299/table/T3/)

Pregnant Cow Milk E Levels (pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4524299/table/T4/)

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SuperNovaStar 6 points 6 months ago

That's more than I was expecting.

Now I need someone to fortify my oatmilk with estrogen so I'm not missing this essential nutrient

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bizarroland 1 point 6 months ago

I imagine you could crush up your tit tacs and sprinkle them in