rulebalt-60

3 months ago by possumparty to c/onehundredninetysix

Redjard 96 points 3 months ago

I see the stylisric reason to only apply the effect around the object, but it isn't realistic.
That radiation isn't affected by optics, it'll go right through the lenses that flip and focus the image and the aperture that might be engaged, and will hit the entire sensor equally. The entire image should be that noisy.

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Hadriscus 5 points 3 months ago

Yea my thoughts too,... although with less facts to back them up

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HugeNerd 4 points 3 months ago

Beta particles wouldn't go through the glass in the first place.

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Redjard 7 points 3 months ago

The beta emission of ⁶⁰Co can probably get through over 6mm of glass. This should be plenty for phones.

But also

⁶⁰Co undergoes beta decay to an excited state of the stable isotope nickel-60 (⁶⁰Ni), which then emits two gamma rays [...]

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Tar_alcaran 1 point 3 months ago

Even if it got blocked, there's a fair bit of metal in a phone which will produce Bremsstrahlung under beta radiation. Obviously that's only going to hit your face, not the sensor.

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SaveTheTuaHawk 4 points 3 months ago

You sound like fun

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magic_smoke 45 points 3 months ago

If you don't like neurodiverse people going off about special interests wtf are you doing on 196?

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Malyca 10 points 3 months ago

Perhaps he means it

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Redjard 23 points 3 months ago

thanks! :)

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trolololol 6 points 3 months ago

I'm having fun, so thanks

And leave your bad vibes at the door, tank you

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Dasus 1 point 3 months ago

Good reply

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trolololol 3 points 3 months ago

Oh cool

So if you had a camera with mirror would it still go a bit through the enclosure and hit the sensor?

What if the sensor is flipped so it has to go through the silicon substrate before hitting the sensitive bits, would it be equally noisy but less noisy overall?

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Redjard 7 points 3 months ago

Yes. Silicon substrate is too thin to matter. Redirecting with mirrors is probably gonna make it worse. Your housing would need over a cm of solid plastic to block beta radiation. On a dedicated camera you might have a sizeable lens with many lenses totalling a cm of shielding, but redirect the light and place the sensor not behind the lens and you only have that camera housing.

Realistically though you have a smartphone, and that β-radiation will probably make it most of the way through the entire thing.

And the gamma radiation really won't care, even if you have a 50cm long zoom lens right between the sensor and source.
This is where you might want a lead brick wall, 10cm thick should make it short-term safe for ⁶⁰Co.

Edit: forgot this was in general, not about the β

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BygoneNeutrino 2 points 3 months ago

I was going to include a tangent on how difficult it is to shield a spacecraft from cosmic radiation, but I'll wait for a more appropriate post. Thanks for the refresher.

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AnchoriteMagus 68 points 3 months ago

Replicas of Cobalt-60 sources can be got on Ebay for as little as $12.

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Rhaedas 54 points 3 months ago

With or without the camera degradation? I'll bet that cost extra.

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turbowafflz 33 points 3 months ago

why would you even make that what purpose does that serve

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panda_abyss 51 points 3 months ago

Telling a physics grad student to catch it and then seeing their existential dread?

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KokusnussRitter 5 points 3 months ago

You are evil! I like it :D

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AnchoriteMagus 51 points 3 months ago

Paperweight / conversation starter. As long as you know it's not real, it's just a cool chunk of brass.

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Gladaed 22 points 3 months ago

Shouldn't be allowed to exist. This removes the terror and fear of seeing an actual Co-60 rod and may kill someone.

Never abuse warning labels for comedic effect. This is deadly.

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turbowafflz 10 points 3 months ago

Yeah, wasn't a source lost on the side of the road in Australia a year or two ago where anyone could have picked it up if they didn't know better

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Cethin 5 points 3 months ago

Yep. The only reason it should exist is for a demonstration piece, to say if you see it to drop it and run, and inform the proper authorities.

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Tar_alcaran 1 point 3 months ago

Never abuse warning labels for comedic effect. This is deadly.

A few years ago, there was a news story about a guy driving with radiation warning labels on his car for fun. He got fined HARD because he wasn't certified for that or had the permits .

Doesn't matter if you don't have actual radioactive material. That shit is illegal for a good reason.

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expatriado 13 points 3 months ago

Ebay

we sell all the stuff that will puzzle you

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grue 2 points 3 months ago path: 0 23688657 23688914 23688965 23690611, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
glizzyguzzler 50 points 3 months ago

I highly recommend holding it within 3 feet of your body for 5 to 10 minutes; absolutely nothing can go wrong from holding a Cobalt-60 source with 3540 Curies in 1963 within 3 feet of your body for 5 to 10 minutes!

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CIA_chatbot 45 points 3 months ago

Y’all looking at the radio-active isotope, while I can’t see past the mutated hotdog fingers

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zero_spelled_with_an_ecks 50 points 3 months ago

hot dog fingers from everything everywhere all at once

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brem 44 points 3 months ago

Replaced phone after the screen started bubbling for some reason.

Hand fell off.

Using other hand on a new phone, but I'm having trouble seeing anything at all now

thnx

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zergtoshi 30 points 3 months ago

Hand fell off.

Yeah, that’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point.

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brem 27 points 3 months ago

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ChicoSuave 30 points 3 months ago

That's a magic wand which makes the air taste like pennies.

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sp3ctr4l 18 points 3 months ago

... forbidden toosie roll ...

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fartographer 10 points 3 months ago

It's so rads!

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half_built_pyramids 16 points 3 months ago

This should be a 3d print

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half_built_pyramids 21 points 3 months ago path: 0 23689961 23690002, hotness: undefined, score: 21, children: 0
Una 12 points 3 months ago

I want to eat it

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wake 8 points 3 months ago

Forbidden Tootsie roll

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X 5 points 3 months ago

go for it

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Una 2 points 3 months ago

YAY!!

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Berengaria_of_Navarre 6 points 3 months ago

My neighbour really wants some strontium 90 flavoured chocolate.

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bedwyr 2 points 3 months ago

Looks like a radiation warning on that.

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