Pretty sure my partner is still happy with 4GB. We don't all need to run several LLMs or 2 chrome tabs.
4 GB works decent on Linux. I have been using an old laptop with 4 GB RAM since the HP folks said it would take them 20 days to repair my primary laptop. I installed cachyos on it and yeah it works fine for web browsing, office work and all.
Installed an SSD and Linux Mint XFCE in a old notebook (2012) with 4GB of RAM and works like a charm
On helium browser, I can get around 10 tabs without lagging. Though I am not a tab hoarder and usually have less than 5 tabs so its fine.
8GB RAM isn't even enough to run Teams + Windows 11 on corporate PCs, not with all the other bullshit they make you install.
It's a good thing for the OS to use as much RAM as available. Why pay for ram if you're not going to use it?
It is. But having the RAM running at a constant high load just slows everything down.
Also, teams being so badly optimised that it needs that much to run is just bullshit
No it doesn’t. It only slows down when it’s completely full and has to use swap files.
Does it? Theoretically it shouldn't slow down just because high ram usage unless you are truly fulling it and RAM needs to constantly free stuff.
Yes, that’s how RAM works. Unused RAM is wasted RAM. Ideally you want to be using almost all of it all the time. Of you’re not, what’s the point of having it? 64GB of ram is pointless if you only ever use 20GB.
My computer uses 32 GB at idle. Even 64 GB is hardly enough for all the shit I do and the security bloatware on top of win11 being dogshit
Anecdotal, so don't trust my word on that.
I was surprised, but Windows 10 seems to adapt to amount of RAM availiable and it even tries to function on 4GB systems while leaving some space for programs user needs. On 8GB it gets to use more resources itself. And on 16+ it doesn't change anymore.
I suspect it is their MO to convince the 7/8 users for the initial free-of-charge switch.
I would just put Linux on it instead lol
That catch 22 sure is a doosie
In recent news windows can no longer run on surface laptops
buying a PC that isn't Copilot+ PC capable makes little sense these days, as you miss out on features like semantic search, Click To Do, and even Windows Recall.
I wonder if you can use Ollama and get something similar on Linux/Non-Copilot+ PCS, I dont see the point in NPUS though. (Click To Do only searches with edge and bing which i dont like,Semantic search i didnt do mucn research but sounds cool,And Recall was heavily criticised when it was first revealed.)
I've been locally running Qwen 3 and lately Qwen 3.5 on my SteamDeck for over a year now.
That's an APU, which is basically an NPU but can do more things and is less expensive, pretty sure that's what those acronyms mean.
thanks for using Leebra!
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I have to disagree, I’d pick a PC without copilot any day. 8GB RAM though is not it
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