Focus apps are failing neurodivergent minds, new research finds

4 months ago by supersquirrel to c/adhd

Many focus apps fail to consider neurodivergent strengths, such as the ability to hyperfocus.
irotsoma 40 points 4 months ago

Because they rely on habit forming to capture attention rather than spending the time and money to keep it changing enough to keep it interesting. It's true of quite a lot of capitalistic practices, like going to an office, and it's why capitalism doesn't work well for many of us.

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ironycanal 15 points 4 months ago

Also The Horrors.

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yermaw 38 points 4 months ago

If these apps are like the ones ive already tried years ago, they failed (read : I failed) on step 1.

You get 20 points for brushing your teeth. But either you just say you did it and get the points for free, or your toothbrushing routine just involved remembering opening an app and going through a list and checking a box. Brushing my teeth before bed was proving to be too much work for my lazy lazy brain. Adding work did not help.

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lka1988 17 points 4 months ago

I use an open source app called Loop Habit Tracker. All it does it pop up a persistent notification around the time that I need to do a thing (such as brushing my teeth, taking a shower, or taking my meds), and all it does is ask "Yes" or "No". No cloud, no account, no syncing with anything; entirely local. There's no accountability outside of a consistent line of checkmarks. Which can be disheartening if I missed a chunk. But it's genuinely helpful.

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SCmSTR 20 points 4 months ago

Well duh. You can't gamify what's needed in an app. It's neurodivergence, not stupidity.

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MonkeMischief 2 points 2 months ago

Modern app design totally optimizes for stupidity lol.

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SCmSTR 2 points 2 months ago

It's a downward race. Who's gonna win: the systems teaching us what we need to know, or the adapting people that the systems cater to? It's the old irresponsible "not my problem" stance that everybody takes.

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tophneal 13 points 4 months ago

Color me shocked. From my experience with apples focuses, the first 3-5y were garbage. Only recently has it gotten better but it’s still not great enough to use reliably. If I feel anxious and turn on the “intelligent breakthrough,” I get every notification but normally blocked ones are shown with a priority banner. No option (that I’ve seen) to give feedback of “no/not important.” Honestly, though, given how little “AI” is in iOS, I’m kinda scared to imagine how Googles Android is with all the force feeding they do with their features

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jia_tan 12 points 4 months ago

The floor here seems to be made out of floor

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Quill7513 8 points 4 months ago

Adding more distractions to the distraction rectangle does not help people with distraction problems, new study finds

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lka1988 5 points 4 months ago

Wow. Shocker. Who knew that focusing on a screen will cause more screen time?

My kids asked me for some app called "Finch" the other day. It's supposedly a mental health app, and rewards you by letting you raise a virtual pet of some sort. Except it has in-app purchases...it's just freemium data mining.

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VerdantMoon 1 point 9 days ago

I will say, Finch is the only one of the sort that helped me. The in-app purchases are merely that you can manage whether you have premium subscription (for real money) or not. It's not necessary to enjoy the app. In game currency, used for dress-up and such, is earned from completing your self-care goals.

I used it for a year, but once my bird was all grown up and had experienced everything, there wasn't much point.

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lka1988 1 point 9 days ago

Right, I get the idea behind it, but teenagers need less screen time in general. They already figured out how to get around the school's internet policies (which IMO aren't strict enough, shit needs to be on an allow list, not a deny list), and I had to lock things down at home as well because they kept trying to find workarounds. Despite what some teenagers may think, having a smart device is a privilege, not a right. And at their ages, they are most susceptible to deceptive marketing tactics.

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Stormcrow 4 points 4 months ago

This is because traditionally the brain is used to focus, but now humans are being trained to outsource thinking for convenience sake.

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