Show line dog breeding has devolved into a form of normalized animal abuse, and the AKC/kennel clubs are to blame.

12 days ago by Absolute_Slayer to c/unpopularopinion

I know this is going to ruffle some feathers among purebred enthusiasts, but we need to stop pretending that modern show line dogs are the pinnacle of their breeds. In reality, conformation showing has completely ruined some of the most iconic dog breeds on the planet, prioritizing a bizarre, hyper exaggerated aesthetic over actual canine health and traditional functionality.

Look at what show lines have done to these breeds over the last few decades:

German Shepherds: Show lines have been bred for an extreme roach back and low sloping rear ends. They look like they are permanently crouching, leading to horrific, early onset hip dysplasia. Meanwhile, working lines (like Czech or East german lines) still have straight backs and functional bodies.

American Bullies (Pocket and Exotic Lines): While originally bred different from the American pit bull terrier, certain show and fad breeding circles have pushed the exotic and pocket bully to a structural breaking point. They are intentionally bred to be absurdly wide with flared elbows, bowed front legs, and completely straight rear stifles hocks. This toad-line look destroys their joints before they even hit adulthood, causing crippling arthritis and making a simple walk down the street an agonizing chore all to achieve a hyper masculine, cartoonish aesthetic.

Neapolitan Mastiffs: Show lines have taken the breed's trademark loose skin and dialed it up to a grotesque, debilitating degree. Modern show Neo mastiffs are bred for so much excess facial wrinkling that many suffer from severe ectropion drooping eyelids and entropion eyelids folding inward, causing their eyelashes to constantly scratch their eyeballs. They are plagued by chronic eye infections, vision impairment, and skin fold dermatitis, turning a historic, majestic guardian into a dog that can barely walk or see through its own skin.

The core problem is that kennel clubs award ribbons based on arbitrary visual standards rather than health, longevity, or temperament. If a dog can't run, breathe comfortably, or perform the historic task it was bred for without collapsing, it shouldn't be considered a "champion." It’s an ethical failure disguised as prestige. We need to completely shift our perspective. A dog's value shouldn't be judged by how perfectly it stacks in a show ring, but by its quality of life. Working lines and preservation breeders who test for genetic health and structural soundness rather than extreme physical traits are the only ones actually saving these breeds. The rest is just vanity at the expense of the animal.

hendrik 46 points 12 days ago

I feel that opinion is only unpopular with the people who bought a pug dog, and for some reason they don't see how it can't breathe properly. I always feel sorry for those creatures.

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Diddlydee 12 points 12 days ago

Yep, I've never seen one that wasn't a wheezing bug eyed mess.

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Absolute_Slayer 7 points 12 days ago

Desperately need to start prioritizing health over aesthetics.

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hendrik 10 points 12 days ago

And I'd say with a pug, even the aesthetics is highly questionable.

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Grail 12 points 12 days ago

What about this one?

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This is Nola, a "retro pug" - 75% pug, 25% beagle, tested and free of hereditary diseases. Her owner says she can easily walk 5km and is very energetic.

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WhiteOakBayou 17 points 12 days ago

She's cute and looks like her eyeballs won't randomly fall out (like pugs' do sometimes)

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Absolute_Slayer 3 points 12 days ago

This one looks a bit traditional and healthy. This dog totally reminds me of the Hawbuck French Bulldogs.

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AuroraZzz 21 points 12 days ago

I dunno how unpopular of an opinion this is. Upvote jic

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SirSamuel 9 points 12 days ago

The people with whom this opinion would be unpopular can, with all due respect, eat a dick.

It’s an ethical failure disguised as prestige

You've basically described all of macro level human history

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Duke_Nukem_1990 5 points 12 days ago

I agree with OP.

Unpopular opinion: normalized animal abuse lands ln every plate and in every dish that isn't plant based.

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Pieisawesome 3 points 12 days ago

This is my unpopular opinion on this topic:

You are 100% correct. 99% of breeders out there are terrible.

However, there are heritage and preservation breeders who breed the dogs for their health rather than for solely for money. It’s by no means perfect, but it’s better.

People aren’t going to stop buying from breeders and prohibitions don’t work… it’s convenient and people do love certain breeds over others. I’m not saying it’s right, it’s just my opinion.

I think we should adopt harm reduction measures otherwise this won’t ever change.

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Absolute_Slayer 1 point 12 days ago

I’d argue that the '99% of terrible breeders figure mostly applies to profit driven puppy mills and backyard 'fad' breeders. True preservation breeders who meticulously health test are out there, but they are constantly fighting against kennel club standards that reward extreme, unhealthy looks.

Tie Titles to Health: A dog shouldn't be allowed to become a 'champion' unless it passes mandatory health, work and genetic screenings.

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alternategait 3 points 12 days ago

I 100% agree with this, and I've suggested that it should be a prerequisite to have a base title in the breed's primary function.

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HubertManne 1 point 11 days ago

would make sense to have them perform the function and then like have a looks show as well. Like the talent portion of a beuty pagent. You could have a performance winnter and a looks winner and overall winner.

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alternategait 1 point 11 days ago

My concern with it being wrapped up in the conformation show, you'd get a diminution of the functions. Just enough that the pretty ones could say that they can. I much rather they have to compete in the real versions.

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alternategait 1 point 11 days ago

Additionally, if you're trying to wedge a bunch of functional tests into an already existing dog show, there's a lot about logistics that will have to change. All the herding breeds would need to herd. That takes a good chunk of space just for the trial, and that's not even counting penning and storing the live stock. Where could you even fit the hunting/gun dogs? No more having Westminster at Madison Square Garden.

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yesman -4 points 12 days ago

Everyone who eats animals or who "owns" one is contributing to the suffering and abuse. Animals are not a lifestyle choice. You shouldn't own your friends.

I eat meat and have pets. I'm just tired of pretending that the vegans didn't win this "debate" 40 years ago. All in a vein effort to spare my hypocritical feelings.

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