X accused of giving racists ‘impunity’ after refusing to bar N- and P-word posts

9 days ago by beep to c/technology

Site takes no action over hate posts against UK politicians including Kemi Badenoch, Shabana Mahmood and Zia Yusuf
Archangel1313 91 points 9 days ago

Oh, man...I feel so dumb. I don't know what the "p-word" is.

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beep 67 points 9 days ago path: 0 24249900 24250174, hotness: undefined, score: 67, children: 39
Nora 51 points 9 days ago

Huh til. Never heard this before. Gotta be honest tho I'm kinda surprised its a slur, don't get me wrong I won't be using it, but it does feel like a "good" shorthand for Pakistani.

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REDACTED 30 points 9 days ago

Seriously, I've heard people say "Pakis" as a short for Pakistani in a non-insulting way, similar to Spaniards or Aussies.

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Nora 37 points 9 days ago

Funny enough it actually mentions in the Wikipedia article that most Americans are unfamiliar with the slur. I'll be honest without this thread if I heard someone say it, I would probably have used it unknowingly just assuming it was similar to Aussie or something.

This is not to make light of the slur, but if someone called me an "Ameri" I would probably just assume they're French, which might be meaner than anything they're trying to say to me.

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KingKong33 11 points 9 days ago

Is Spaniard not the correct term?

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technocrit 2 points 9 days ago

I’ve heard people say “Pakis” as a short for Pakistani in a non-insulting way

Non-insulting according to whom? Some people are so ingrained to racism that they don't even sound racist. It's like old people who say "negro" but don't mean to offend. They're just unconsciously recycling the racism in which they were indoctrinated.

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Sanctus 1 point 8 days ago

Ah, but it is such a fun word! Shortening it takes out the fun of saying the full Pakistani.

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technocrit 15 points 9 days ago

Racism has different manifestations in different places.

It kind of shows how stupid it all is.

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DiaDeLosMuertos 2 points 8 days ago

Imagine me when I first got to Australia as an Englishman to see a big headline in the newspaper saying something like, "Pakis lose to England".

I was like, Whaaaaaaaaat !!!!!!

I've now been here 32 years and I sometimes explain to Aussies that Brits aren't allowed to use that word, which they're rather surprised about. Because as you said in your last two sentences.

Cheers.

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tleb 8 points 9 days ago

Here in Canada in the 00s I remember it being a really bad slur. I haven't really heard it used at all since then though

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zebidiah 13 points 9 days ago

Which is hilarious, because in new England a "packy" is a package store, which is a euphemism for a liquor store.

So I got quite a few looks when I asked if we were going to "hit the packy" on the way to the party....

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bryndos 7 points 9 days ago

Very much not good in England. You might well think England did enough to fuck up that part of the world in '47. But no we still have to be a bucket load of racist cunts.

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Nora 6 points 9 days ago

Its actually mildly interesting, are there other slurs that really wouldn't be slurs in another country? The F slur would be one I suppose is just a cigarette for some people?

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Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In 1 point 8 days ago

I was going to talk about shortening of Nigeria, but apparently the entomology is completely separate.

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CovertOperative 1 point 8 days ago

Entomology? I'm not sure where insects come into it.

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LemmyEntertainYou 1 point 8 days ago

Language is weird. Paki is absolutely a racist slur for Pakistani but then Brit is totally acceptable for a British person despite the two words having the exact same origin.

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5too 1 point 8 days ago

Isn't Brit a British term originally? I'd guess that'd the reason it's considered different

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bridgeburner 3 points 8 days ago

U sure it isn't "Pajeet"? That one seems worse.

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zo0 11 points 9 days ago

Trigger Warning!! ::: spoiler Tap for spoiler poop :::

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YiddishMcSquidish 1 point 8 days ago

How DARE you!

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restingOface 6 points 9 days ago

P*lestine

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spacegoat 5 points 9 days ago

Peebug

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toofpic 0 points 9 days ago

Parrot people, obviously (huh, not blocked here as well!)

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LordDaveTheKind 60 points 9 days ago

If you are a decent person, you are not on X. There is no other option.

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technocrit 1 point 9 days ago

I login every now and then to troll. It's amazing how much of a shithole that place is.

But I agree that I shoudn't login at all.

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yesman 44 points 9 days ago

Came here to find out what P word was. Saw that this was England and knew immediately.

It's comforting as an American to know that Europe is still in the running for who can be the most racist.

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technocrit 16 points 9 days ago

Where do you think american racism came from? It's all the same racist empire.

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melsaskca 2 points 8 days ago

My theory is the the British sent their criminals off to the Australian colony and the real smart criminals escaped and formed the usa. /s

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Telodzrum 4 points 9 days ago

Anywhere people live, there is a contender for most racist person and group.

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technocrit -21 points 9 days ago

Nope. This is a denial of the reality of racism - which globally privileges pale skin over dark.

You might be able to make a similar but worthless point about "prejudice" or something, but this kind of talk about racism is just wrong and harmful.

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Telodzrum 7 points 9 days ago

Imagine being this dumb and obstinate at the same time.

Don’t worry buddy, I still believe you’re capable of learning and growing out of your beloved and hopelessly clutched ignorance.

I’m rooting for you.

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GalacticSushi 25 points 9 days ago

But "cisgender" will get your post flagged 🙄

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RememberTheApollo_ 24 points 9 days ago

Every right wing website or mod ever.

“We don’t allow [political posts, racism, etc] on this site.”

Quietly allows offhand comments that are racist and political from right wingers, quickly tell people to shut up and deletes their posts if they call out the bullshit, especially if using objective data.

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TigerAce 12 points 8 days ago

P word? Can't say paedophile anymore because it hurts their feelings? Should we say "person who loves children more than me" instead?

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Tollana1234567 7 points 8 days ago

its likely Pakistan, with of the stan. which is a slur for pakistani people.

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TigerAce 4 points 8 days ago

I wasn't aware that was a thing.

Oh how creative of the British, to create a slur that's half the name of people their heritage. Guess I'll refer to the English as Engs from now on. "Oy bruv, it's them Engs innit. Free the north of Ireland!"

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elucubra 2 points 8 days ago

People who lust after children

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ExLisper 1 point 8 days ago

No that P word. Hint:

P___

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TigerAce 2 points 8 days ago

Poser? Prick? Pussy? I don't think any of them are as bad as pedo.

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ExLisper 2 points 8 days ago

You never played wordle? None of those are 4 letter words.

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TigerAce 3 points 8 days ago

You gave me a P and a long underscore line 🤷

So it's P * * *

I don't know, other than pedo. I give up.

But reading from the article and comments it's a British word that has something to do with Pakistanis. I'm not familiar with that word, I'm not from the UK and have never heard it during my visits there or in the British media I've watched (I'm Dutch). I knew the British in general are rather racist, but I didn't know there was such targeted hate towards the Pakistanis. Wtf did they ever do to those colonistic inbred posh fucks eh?

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NostraDavid 8 points 8 days ago

But what if P=NP???

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The_Wumpus 7 points 8 days ago

Had to read the comments to figure out the p word

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phoenixz 2 points 9 days ago

FFS, can we stop being so difficult? WHICH P word? Penis? Pencil? Pogostick? What N word?

Can we just put the words there if we're talking about specific words, so that not your entire readership needs to collectively guess what you're talking about? Quote the words, if needed, but can we PLEASE stop censoring words, especially in news or educational context?

These days even "d**th" gets censored because oh boy o god, if somebody uses the D word, we will be in trouble!

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yesman -18 points 9 days ago

People on the internet who complain about "censorship" only come in two varieties.

  1. let's hear the Nazi out

  2. Please say the bad word, dog I'm begging you, just say it. Let me say it.

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Railcar8095 9 points 9 days ago

The "letter-word" thing has always been weird for me as a non native English speaker.

It reminded me to Voldemorts "He Who Shall Not Be Named" thing. I'm used to it now, but I think about it it's still a weird thing.

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HiTekRedNek 1 point 8 days ago

Banning the g word when? It's offensive to the Romani.

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jdr -9 points 9 days ago

Genuinely 1984

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BooBees 4 points 9 days ago

Have you not read the book? It’s not a warning about being too critical of the world’s richest bigot and political insider.

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Hardeehar -7 points 9 days ago

So use the n and the p word, then? Feel free to express yourself on X

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BooBees 2 points 9 days ago

Do what now? Why would I go on that shithole? Why would I speak like a bigot? I have no idea what your point is in response to my comment. Has no one actually read that book but me? So weird.

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Kushan -4 points 9 days ago

You don't understand hyperbole.

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wampus -11 points 9 days ago

Meh, X skews right-wing, sites like Lemmy skew left, every social media site uses censorship along the lines that their intended bubble-market prefers.

Not exactly news, nor surprising in any way.

Also not all that 'tech' oriented really, it's more mundane political drivel.

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technocrit 13 points 9 days ago

So... Lemmy "skewing left" is the same as open racism on X? Give me a break.

It might not be surprising, but fascism is always disgusting.

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wampus -5 points 9 days ago

Lemmy skews left, and censors moderate views / comments. You're generally ok in various areas to be openly hostile towards certain demographics -- typically white people, cisgendered people or men in general. You can use pejorative language to describe those groups with impunity. You can get banned from lemmy sites for questioning left-leaning narratives. Functionally, it's not that dissimilar.

Censorship is used in part to cater a site to its market niche / audience. Whether you agree/disagree with a sites censorship approach, is generally based on whether you're in that target audience / intended marketing bubble. If you've never been censored on a site for moderate views, you're just squarely in the target group.

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