[Vote] Defederate from instances like burggit moe (solved)

3 years ago by nanoUFO to c/agora

If that instance is too much for even exploding heads https://exploding-heads.com/post/139643 then it should also be too much for us. Almost all other instances also block these types of instances. Especially since this instance is Canadian and I bet a lot of us are Canadians and I think the laws relating to this type of content are far more strict here. I would prefer to be completely unrelated to these types of communities and instances.

I am generally against defederation but to me this is even worse than the botted instances.

Edit: I hope that as people find new instances or new instances like this open up we can proactively also defederate from them.

TheDude 44 points 3 years ago

Hey all, after finding out that they were a loli friendly community I went ahead and blocked this instance. Didn't want to wait to go for a vote on this for obvious reasons shared by many of you. Thank you for your support

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nanoUFO 11 points 3 years ago

Sadly I don't think they are the only one. But it's good that we now know where we stand with these instances and they can be defederate as the show up. Thank you for your hard work @TheDude@sh.itjust.works

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TendieMaster69 4 points 3 years ago

I agree with defederating and blocking that instance. Burggit has been an issue for some time, the admins of that instance made their acceptance of illegal acts evident. Defederation should be reserved for severely illegal heinous acts and bot spam when there are no other options.

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WheeGeetheCat 22 points 3 years ago

aye child porn content seems like an emergency

Id argue the admins are compelled by law to act on this without any agora process at all.

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Difficult_Bit_1339 13 points 3 years ago

Please do not post any 'example' images from this instance.

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pickman_model 7 points 3 years ago

Aye.

This is a Canadian instance and depictions of children (real or drawn) for sexual purposes is illegal in Canada.

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Seraph089 5 points 3 years ago

Aye

I believe defederation should be reserved for severe issues, and I absolutely believe this qualifies.

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sorrybookbroke 5 points 3 years ago

Aye

Drawn child porn is not something I want on my timeline. I've blocked multiple communities, but they keep getting made. Especially since jerboa doesn't blur NSFW yet this has been exhausting.

There was a fucking graph one made showing what was allowed on their community. It started at 19 ended at 1. The 'not allowed' section was at the extremes, both too old (late teens) and too young (babies).

Fucking disgusting pedophile shit.

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haxe11 4 points 3 years ago

Aye.

That stuff is illegal in many countries.

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jwiggler 3 points 3 years ago

I don't know what it is, but if it really allows what the exploding head thread says, I say defederate it.

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sorrybookbroke 0 points 3 years ago

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Difficult_Bit_1339 2 points 3 years ago

I'm not a fan of de-federation by any means, but instances that allow abusive content is a red line for me.

Brb, hiding behind some VPNs to investigate.

e: ew. Loli images, admins approved/created the communities. (If you don't know what loli is and don't want to risk an FBI raid, wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon)

Aye

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Difficult_Bit_1339 3 points 3 years ago

'Loli' content allowed and encouraged by admins.

There are some fairly explicit images in the headers of some of their NSFW subs.

It seems they're trying to be some sort of image repository for NSFW images on topics that would be problematic.

I can't see this as an issue that could be resolved by talking to the admins (as they're the ones creating the communities).

I'm for de-federation. Loli content is content glorifying child sexual abuse and crosses the red line.

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PG_Bleep_Bloop 3 points 3 years ago

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thal3s 2 points 3 years ago

Aye.

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crbn 2 points 3 years ago

Aye

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Contextual_Idiot 2 points 3 years ago

I think this post should be a [Discussion] post first, before it goes to the [Vote] stage.

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sorrybookbroke 1 point 3 years ago

I don't think there needs to be much discussion here. Drawn child porn is a fairly well understood concept.

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Contextual_Idiot 2 points 3 years ago

Drawn child porn is a fairly well understood concept.

You're not wrong. This is one case where I'd agree that they should be defederated.

And it's been done: https://sh.itjust.works/comment/401417 TheDude just defederated them.

I'm just hoping that we can get some ground rules in place for how we post to The Agora. Jumping straight to a vote should be left for extreme cases (and, this could be considered one.)

Let's make The Agora a place of thoughtful discussion, where people feel like they can speak their mind without being attacked for it, where people can respond to others without being attacked for it, and where courtesy and respect are freely given.

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burgersc12 1 point 3 years ago

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drascus 1 point 3 years ago

Aye

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SugaredScoundrel 1 point 3 years ago

Aye

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Oneandonlyzach 1 point 3 years ago

Aye

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Oni_eyes 1 point 3 years ago

Aye

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TheDailyChase 1 point 3 years ago

Aye

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StarNyte 0 points 3 years ago

rip those 14 subscribers

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elyusi_kei 0 points 3 years ago

Nay. Not that I expect my vote to matter; this seemed like an inevitability for a Canadian node. I mostly joined just to see how things shake out in the end.

So as an unsavory tourist, so long and thanks for all the fish. I hope there will continue to be neutral intermediaries where I could still hypothetically come and say hello, since I'd like to think I'm reasonably amiable under most circumstances. But if not, that's okay too. 👋

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gmatkins 0 points 3 years ago

Aye

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PG_Bleep_Bloop -3 points 3 years ago

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nanoUFO 3 points 3 years ago

That is so intellectually dishonest I am at a loss for words. But brave of you for defending burggit.

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PG_Bleep_Bloop -1 points 3 years ago

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nanoUFO 3 points 3 years ago

One of those is illegal in a ton of places the other one is political horseshit opinions, simple as.

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PG_Bleep_Bloop -2 points 3 years ago

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iorale 2 points 3 years ago

I'll have to support this guy with not so old experience, so far the communities from burggit stay in there, they don't try to spread or force themselves in other instances, once you block them you won't see them again; now The_Donald... we were there when they practically took over Reddit, they were everywhere and all the damn posts on r/all or r/popular were from their users brigading everywhere, if that's what we are going to wait until action is taken, then the same thing sould apply for burggit.
It's either fair or not.

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sorrybookbroke 0 points 3 years ago

Both are scum you fucking weirdo. Just because a murderer is worse than a spousal abuser doesn't mean we should tolerate the spousal abuser.

Weird shit man, defending pedophilia by saying kiddy porn is better than fascism. Honestly debatable, but one usually ascribes to both

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PG_Bleep_Bloop -1 points 3 years ago

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sorrybookbroke 1 point 3 years ago

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