Mamdani calls AIPAC ‘monsters’ in rally ahead of NY primaries
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The politically appointed and republican biased supreme court should not be allowed to arbitrarily make law that impacts national security without an assessment by a balanced group overseeing it's decisions, joint chiefs, pentagon, house and Congress.
Citizens united opens an enormous gaping national security hole that needs to be closed permanently and never reopened.
Have you gotten hasbara thrown at u that Israel is lower than some other countries in FARA reports? Yeah.
No but if it’s not bad enough that they are a foreign lobby meddling in our elections, they have resorted to dark money fronts posing as progressive or conservative activist groups in order to hide their influence. It’s fucking insidious.
Yup, it's bullshit, clearly they are a functional foreign lobby and as you suggest they should be on the list. But they aren't, so my pro-Israel friends/family pull up the FARA numbers to prove Israel isn't the top foreign lobbyist in the US. It's farcical.
They don’t do any terroristic activities.
They just bribe and coerce public employees into giving an immoral genocidal foreign government infinite money and protection from accountability and justice.
according to statesian law, funding terrorists is terroristic activity. on that basis i disagree with your judgment of:
They don’t do any terroristic activities.
otherwise, you seem to have a good grasp of the situation
There were founded by terror groups attacking and displacing the Arab people, since the start they have been a terrorist state.
Comments like these make me think that if I were an American Jew I'd be donating to AIPAC. I'd want somewhere to escape to if antisemitism continues to to increase.
If it gets to a point where Jews are leaving your country to escape antisemitic violence, who's the monsters?
lol, every Jewish American I know hates AIPAC and is 100% against the occupation and genocide that is currently happening.
Nothing turns people against AIPAC more than facts about AIPAC and Israel.
I'm assuming your imaginary Jewish friends don't go to any of the synagogues that have been shot at by "anti-zionists".
I don’t think that’s giving American Jews enough credit.
Israel as a bug-out plan for anyone with Jewish heritage is a distinctly Zionist idea, which is far more polarizing these days.
But even if some Jews may be given to such a demonstrably facile us-them disposition — i.e., security-at-all-costs with no sense of irony whatsoever — my impression is that many find it impossible to ignore the apparent gollum of this increasingly explicit mechanized hegemonic genocidal fascist apartheid state somehow laying claim to their worldwide identity.
If I were an American Jew, I would be asking myself “is this what being Jewish means to me?” And I suspect my answer would be outrage to the tune of “no, fuck Zionism” or “no, fuck Israel.” Either way it would consume me utterly.
In short, I just find it hard to believe the average Jew is especially ignorant, heartless, or selfish. That to me sounds like actual antisemitism.
ETA: I can’t speak for American Jews but most of the Jews I know are either older and just anti-bibi or younger and openly anti-Zionist. This is in New York for context.
If it gets to a point where Jews are leaving your country to escape antisemitic violence, who’s the monsters?
LMAO, the people who leave are getting discounted houses/free land stolen from LIVING families who are now homeless. There are so many fucking reports, documentaries, and interviews about this, spanning back to the 19-fucking-70s. The Nakba is a real historically analyzed event. Fucking Helen Mirren has a quote about what she saw:
Mirren said of her experience in Israel at that time:
I witnessed things that were wrong. I witnessed Arabs being thrown out of their houses in Jerusalem. But it was just the extraordinary magical energy of a country just beginning to put its roots in the ground. It was an amazing time to be here.
Who's the monster? Look in the mirror, "space cowboy". From a Canadian instance no less: you exist in a server on stolen treaty land, and you're support other's land getting stolen. What else is new.
This is interesting. She had other remarks about Israelis toward the end of her career as well. Less charitable ones
There were Jews living throughout the Middle East before 1948. Thriving Jewish communities in places like Cairo and Baghdad. Where did they go? Jews were forced out of their houses and had to move to Israel. But there were much more horrible things happening to Jews in the 1940s so most people don't think about it much. But maybe you pretend there was nothing bad at all happened to Jews in the 1940s, that kind of thinking seems to be getting commonplace nowadays.
There's no doubt terrible things have happened to Palestinians. But it's dishonest to be so selective about history. Especially when your goal is to dehumanize people.
But history is history. Today in 2026, 2/3 of racial attacks in my country are against Jews. We have synagogues being shot at coinciding with events in the Middle East. Sorry to pierce the safe little bubble you've built for yourself, but anti-zionism is the same as anti-semitism now. What else can we consider it to be? People attacking Canadian Jews because they're angry over things happening on the other side of the world. Anti-zionists don't distinguish between Israeli and Jew, so what are you doing be demanding some perverse form of political correctness in distinguishing between anto-zionist and antisemite?
You can get off the "Anti-zionist" ride at any time. There was never any goal to it anyway. Nothing that particular hate group is about benefits Palestinians anyway. Just promoting hate which can only get more people killed, and most of the people killed in the never ending conflict they want to go on forever are Palestinian.
Israel isn't all Jews, and all Jews aren't Israeli.
The Jewish people live on stolen land. Remind me what happened on May 14, 1948. This isn't some ancient claim. It was a bait and switch by England. Benny is just getting old and deciding like all the old boomers that he's going to solidify some legacy and die off unaccountable.
Yeah, I live on stolen land too. You do too. Pretty much everyone does, there isn't any territory on Earth that hasn't changed hands to a different ethnic group at some point. And "England" did a lot of horrible things throughout the history books. The Ottomans took land from Palestinians and sold it to the Jews too, but for some reason you don't want to implicate them in anything... why is that?
What are you even talking about?!
i mean i get it. i'm disabled. i had three weeks from my diagnosis to my first real death threat. not my first death threat, the first one that was actionable. the first nonactionable threat only took a few days. i'd have immigrated, like, anywhere by now if there was anywhere that took disabled people. and i'm literally the best in the world at my instrument.
i'm literally the best in the world at my instrument
Can you tell us more?
It's just synonymous with American patriotism
Can you explain how Antifa is a terrorist group?
I'd love specifics.
What specifically have they done? Who have they terrified? Hell, even just... Who is the group?
Antifa isn't a group like Al Qaeda, The Taliban, ISIS, The Proud Boys, etc. it is an anti-fascist philosophy. So if you're actively against antifa, that necessarily puts you on the side of fascists. Keep that in mind when looking at who is vocally against antifa and trying to demonize antifa.
We need more politicians involved in dismantling oppressive systems and seeking unity. He’s showing Dems the way a path forwards. What Democratic leadership is pushing hasn’t worked for a while, maybe try to learn.
Mamdani is 100% correct.
Billionaires are the terrorists of the 21st century.
Jpost? OK guess I’ll just go with what the state says…
Oh I’m all for Mamdani, just would like to see links from better sources.
AIPAC will keep trying under different pacs now. But they are awful no matter what rebranding they use.
Not sure who called it "Netanyahu's wars", but I hope Mamdani has more sense than that. We can't allow for Netanyahu to become the fall guy for what is a genocidal ethnic supremacist state, and just pretend that it will all be better when some former terrorist becomes PM.
Citizens united must be reversed
Political funding needs to end
But both parties have their snozzles in the trough and because they benefit it's going to require a third party that promises to change the constitution to fix campaign funding and policies for the rich
He might be a filthy half-measure loving democratic socialist, but he does occasionally do the right thing.
Go outside. Touch grass. Deprogram.
Taking a break from denying China's systematic human rights abuses against Uyghurs in Xinjiang to talk shit about Mamdani, are we? Democratic socialism not totalitarian enough for your liking?
Mamdani would be like a center left politician in Europe. I guess for most Americans anything slightly to the left of a Hillary Clinton is the limit of the left spectrum.
Anything that isn't a total leninist commie is "center left". I love it! You guys are so funny it's sad. Once again, the left proving is exclusively good at one thing and one thing only: purity testing the left.
Also, I live in Europe. Mamdani is a boiler plate leftist here. Nothing you said is true.
The word "left" is extremely fluid on Lemmy, it seems. When Mamdani is campaigning, it's a big tent word and Mamdani is definitely on the team. After the campaign, when the purity testing begins, "left" has strict leninist parameters in must adhere to. It's fun, isn't it
Ehhh, this isn't half as true as it used to be (lived on both sides of the Atlantic extensively, am currently in central Europe). The majority of Europe is as firmly neoliberal as America is ideologically. We have a more robust welfare state, and some of us have some better labor laws, but the core ideals of neoliberalism rule nearly the entire subcontinent with real, old school socialist parties (that are actually still holding socialist views) don't really have any more power than they do in the US. They get a bit more just by virtue of parliamentary systems, but their actual size and influence is almost non existent in most countries here.
Europe is in decline. It used to have people much to the left of Mamdani who implemented the socialist policies, but neoliberalism has been slowly eroding all of Europe and it is turning into the USA.
That is why Mamdani is now center-left in Europe. In the past he would just be a centrist or even center-right with his current policies. Everything is relative.
Compare Mamdani for example to Mechelon in France and Mamdani is clearly far to his right.
In blue and maybe purple areas sure, but deep red areas are only getting redder in response. Speaking as someone who has lived in a red area my whole life.
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He’s not wrong they should be declared a terrorist group.
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