Turns Out, There Really Is a Cabal of Elite Crazies Trying to Control the World
a day ago by Sundray to c/nottheonion
The only thing preventing the entire world from being stuck in complete, abject despotism is that these people are often at each other's throats. When they collude, everything they touch turns to garbage.
That's the hope. I'm sure there are a handful of billionaires who are decent enough people, tech co-founders who didn't get all weird about the tech money. But the other 98% are legit sociopaths. They can't co-exist for long, they're all secretly undercutting each other. It's in their nature.
One possible future is letting the dragons fight it out, and picking off the stragglers. Fingers crossed 🤞
Absolutely agree. They really believe that they are all that matters.
i think the oligarchs do defacto control a significant chunk of the world and they are trying to exercise that control to enact their deranged ai-hallucination-like version of reality that their confirmation broken brains think should be done
thankfully they do not share these visions with eachother commonly and nation states are slowly making laws to prevent them abusing the global financial system
Imagine fighting a long war where one side knows they are fighting the war, and a vast majority of the other side thinks they are trying to help them.
There's no war other than class war. We've been fighting it for centuries. Remember that.
Right but there are people amongst us poor who threw their lot in with the wealthy years ago. They're as much the enemy because they would fight on the side of wealth.
This is the reason why I always get way to mad at conspiracy theorists. You don't have to make up some shadowy cabal or the jews, be mad at the wealthy oligarchs.
One theory I heard: Crazy conspiracy theories were created by the government to make legitimate conspiracy theories look ridiculous by association. "Oh, you think there's an island of pedophile billionaires running the world? I bet you also think the moon landing was fake." A classic "the butts match" gambit.
I don't think it is planed like the conspiracy theories are created but ampliefed to distroy the public trust and muddy the waters, I don't think that is too far fetched.
smoke screen
Shadow cabal and oligarchy aren't mutually exclusive. Seems to me the oligarchs are just the more obvious nodes of the shadow cabal web, the fuckers with the money and power that can go on TV and talk directly to senators.
Go one step back away from the limelight and you get dudes like Cheney, Bannon, people who interact with all the obvious oligarchs but don't need to post on social media and don't need to stay relevant to constituents. And then people like Epstein, agents in the field gathering blackmail.
Shit is pretty fucking crazy tbh.
You know them, you know their names, net worth ranked etc.
Among other things they were high on ket and thought they can teabag democracy in the face because everyone is so dumb.
They have shits for brains now that betray the game blatantly.
“As you probably know I represent the Rothschild’s” -Jeffery Epstein in email to Peter Thiel.
So a wealthy oligarch?
That's redundant. Sociopathic Oligarch is better. Wait, that's redundant, too...
A family of old money wealthy oligarchs who founded the state of Israel and set up Epstein to blackmail politicians in the west to continue to fund their genocidal state at their citizens behest. A little more complicated when you add generations of oligarchs with nefarious agendas. Even if the problem boils down to that these oligarchs have millions brainwashed to defend them and their agenda through tribalism and media propaganda. I agree that most of the world’s problems have boiled down to the wealthy but that is an oversimplification when you don’t factor in the “conspiracy” meaning the nefarious plots to maintain and grow their power and the control they hold over our “democracies”.
Those damn jews, right? If somebody would just do something about them. /s
Please cut that bullshit of these shadowy dark figures in the background. There are real people like Elon Musk from whom we know what he does and influences with his wealth.
What's the point of all that money if you have to use so much of it to manipulate the world so they won't murder you and your entire bloodline?
Just get moderately wealthy, and and have a nice life, with nobody gunning for you. Is the bigger mansion or bigger yacht really that much better?
Can you just fuck off with the anti-semitism? Dog whistles and all? Thx.
Why yes they’re called ‘billionaires’ and there’s like 3.5 thousand of them.
fifedoms
No no, those are fife drums
Nah, they think it's only one, and then oscillate between Bilderberg, the Knights Templar, and the Illuminati.
IRL, there's a Venn diagram of 3 to 7 wealthy Cool Kids groups that all compete for influence and money. They're generally not even that secretive about it other than Peter Thiel.
Whilst this was always obvious and is not at all surprising, it's definitely worth reviewing the list which someone took the time to compile: https://github.com/nzaki-dev/dialog
There are a couple of names im disappointed to see there. Robert Cialdini, Adam Grant, Jonathan Haidt stand out as likely speakers rather than members. Tim Urban and Josh Brolin are odd inclusions... unless the latter really is Thanos
The retreat is scheduled for August 12–16 at a venue near Dublin, Ireland.
The original version of the source article identified the location as the Powerscourt Hotel; in an act of journalistic cowardice (to be expected from a Condé Nast Publication) Wired later edited their article to remove that detail "to address a security concern raised by a Dialog representative".
Esquire is unsurprisingly sticking with Wired's "near Dublin" description of the location, but fortunately it looks like some Irish media outlets (eg this and this) are reporting where it actually is so hopefully there will be some local opposition present.
Who hasn't? Simpler that way. Someone showed up with money at Joe's, 2012 if I had to bet.
Has he had on Timothy Mellon, the second largest political contributor after Elon Musk in the last election cycle? Has he had on the Uihleins or the Adelsons?
Only a small subset of the people making huge political donations want publicity, and only an even smaller subset of those are interesting enough that Joe Rogan would do a podcast with them.
Don't think that most of them are interesting in a macabre way like Thiel or Musk. Most are old, crotchety assholes who inherited vast fortunes who aren't interesting, don't seek publicity, and just want to remake the world without pesky democracy interfering.
Conspiracy theories are controlled opposition.
Tell people to be mad at a made up shadow cabinet of rich lizard people who run the world in secret so they won't be mad at the actual, real, existing cabinet of rich human people who run the world out in the open.
I thought only the queen of England, John English, and PDQ Bach's estate had that kind of wealth. I wish I was right
Other talks include “Build-a-Cult,” moderated by the founder of the Christian networking site Pray.com
I mean, we all know what these people are about but I'm just taken back by the brazenness and openness of all of it.
This is basically "Yes, I made a cult to become a billionaire with a following, what about you?" and somehow nobody bats an eye? That is, of course, nobody that could do something about this.
“As you are probably aware I represent the Rothschild’s” -Jeffery Epstein in email to Peter Thiel
No, there's not.
There's many of them, and they are all rich and trying to stab each other's backs to get more power and money.
And yet when people tried to point this out earlier, they were called conspiracy theorists. There are false conspiracy theories and true conspiracy theories. That's just how theories work. The ones that espouse true theories are then denigrated for seeing things faster than you.
This is why labeling something a conspiracy theory is not a useful way to dismiss an idea. The dismissal is only right half the time. And the other half you are missing something important, or refusing to believe something without looking into it. Instead, more correct is to critically assess what is true and false and not what is a conspiracy theory and not a conspiracy theory. It's more work but it's also more correct.
Who prefers the term "conspiracy theory" to be a shortcut for claiming an idea is false? A: People involved in actual conspiracies.
Also, people who use that pattern to claim something is false just generally struggle with English. Conspiracy != Conspiracy theory != False. But a common trope of a useful idiot is to claim something is false because it's just a conspiracy. And a shocking number of people take that argument seriously. Despite the fact that this person can hardly differencial aspects in the English language, much less develop useful anticipation of how the powerful will strategize, or worse, comprehensively determine without evidence what is not possible there.
If you discuss an idea of what powerful people will do, you are technically engaging with conspiracy theory. And we can't be having any of that!
Its also worthy of note that you need not refer to them as conspiracy theories if they are openly discussed by the conspirators and/or there is direct record of them happening or having happened. They're just conspiracies then.
Easy fix, just don't talk about what you know to random people. :)
It's like trying to sell icecream to people who hate icecream. Also, I certainly didnt learn about these things from someones comment on the internet. It was just watching world events like 9/11 and not being a complete moron believing the official story. :)
Then I got interested, found lots of good documentaries. YouTube used to be full of very good ones before they deleted them. I was very interested in that stuff.
Now the world is very different and people are seeing evil openly in the white house even. But it was very different back then.
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I think it's important to understand, these people believe that they already control the world. From their perspective, they aren't "trying", they're doing. And they believe they have the right to do so. They believe that having wealth makes them more important and more capable than everyone else, even though the reality is often that having wealth separates them from having to actually do anything for themselves, making them less capable and less experienced than everyone else.
The rest of us, our needs, our concerns, our desires, our lives... none of that matters to them, except when it either enables or impedes getting what they want.
The only thing preventing the entire world from being stuck in complete, abject despotism is that these people are often at each other's throats. When they collude, everything they touch turns to garbage.
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