Raising taxes on the superrich is popular with voters. So why is it so hard to get done?

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DigDoug 103 points 5 hours ago

The superrich own the media.

And the politicians.

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TheReanuKeeves 40 points 5 hours ago

Question answered. No further comments needed. Part of growing up is realizing the "democracy" we live in is just a mask for fascism.

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Fishnoodle 5 points 3 hours ago

And they also run fake competitions where they promise to give a million dollars to people for voting a certain way, but really the winners were predetermined the whole time...

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foggy 1 point an hour ago

/thread

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Canconda 25 points 4 hours ago

Because America was founded with a bunch of horse sniffing half-literates for a general populous and the only thing that's really changed is the number of horses to sniff.

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adarza 7 points 3 hours ago

i know this is a link to that other site, but this old post has a link to the full essay as published in 1980.

https://old.reddit.com/...

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ripcord 3 points 2 hours ago

Why not just link to the essay

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CharlesDarwin 2 points 2 hours ago

I've used this quote a lot over the years. One of the far right posters liked to "retort" by saying it's better than being a pseudointellectual (directed at me), LOL!

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Almacca 1 point 30 minutes ago

Nice to get immediate confirmation of the validity of the quote.

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TheDemonBuer 20 points 4 hours ago

Blue-state Democrats are in a bind. They support a more equitable tax system, but fear, with some justification, that they and their party will be blamed if higher state taxes cause their wealthiest residents and their state economies to “head south,” literally and figuratively.

They say "with some justification," but what is that justification? Is there evidence that higher taxes causes wealthy residents to leave AND that that has negative consequences for the broader economy?

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PP_BOY_ 12 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, this feels like a made up reason (it is). What working-class voters do they think are going to be like "boy, you know who I miss? The billionaire who used to live up the bloc!"

If you leave a state/city because they raised taxes, it stands to reason that the reason you were there in the first place was because they had lower taxes. It doesn't matter how much private wealth you have, you leaving or staying has very little impact on the people who live in a low-tax area. This is very basic logic

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artyom 2 points 3 hours ago

"boy, you know who I miss? The billionaire who used to live up the bloc!"

The implication is not that they'll be missed, it is that they will just not pay taxes in another region, which does nothing but rob your current region of whatever tax dollars they're currently paying.

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raman_klogius 10 points 3 hours ago

Just like all the billionaires in NYC that fled when Mamdani took office? All 0 of them?

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NM_Gringo 7 points 3 hours ago

So what if the rich leave? They're not paying taxes, who needs them? The need for vendors and contractors doesn't go away when the wealthy leave. The economy goes on. Someone will take their place and pay taxes and not bitch about it so much.

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baronvonj 2 points 2 hours ago

the fear isn't that a rich person leaves. the fear is that a large employer moves and takes all those jobs with it.

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Golfnbrew 5 points 5 hours ago

That and half of the people who actually show up to vote, vote for republicans, who are against taxing their buddies, donors, etc.

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artyom 3 points 4 hours ago

Because voters don't vote accordingly.

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NekoKoneko 2 points 4 hours ago

werealltryingtofindtheguywhodidthis.jpg

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CharlesDarwin 2 points 2 hours ago

Probably for the same reason that rejecting insider trading by politicians is popular. Or worker protections. Or single payer healthcare.

I seem to remember Cenk from TYT showing polls that Americans tend to poll progressive on the issues. Somehow, all the things that are popular don't get passed, though, hmmmmm...

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JiveTurkey 1 point 31 minutes ago

This basically sums it up. https://youtu.be/sYA-z0Y8WRQ?is=kw_NGc3gLO-d4Onl

What the bottom 99% want is irrelevant. We don't run this country or make its decisions. We are just cogs in a machine that exists to serve the rich and convince the poor that they're in some magical land of freedom. None of us are free.

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mvirts 1 point 16 minutes ago

the question answers itself.

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Almacca 1 point 32 minutes ago

Because voters have little to no say in the matter.

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homesweethomeMrL 1 point 2 hours ago

“Voting against our own interests”

Usually because someone waved a flag at them.

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