I'm curious if you directed the users of those subs to any particular alternative?
I mean, apparently they are already bleeding money, but I doubt that these changes are going to do much to help in that regard.
That post seems to be missing.
followthewhiterabbit 12 points 3 years ago
On two we presented the options abailable (Lemmy, Mastodon, Usnet and so on), on the biggest we didn't do that. It was a last-minute announcement, so didn't really have the time (also too many cooks with different recipes, so to speak).
I'm sure it won't matter in the long run, but should we not try? A giant company runs on advertising. And the time we stop users interacting and engaging with these ads can only be a good thing.
As I'm writing this, 4,669 of 6,934 subs have gone dark.
Its beautiful to see.
Senseibull 13 points 3 years ago
At the bottom of the site, it does say “use Lemmy for less reddit shenanigans” with a hyperlink
araquen 35 points 3 years ago
I don’t know about you, but streaming the “Darkening” is like the best thing ever. Just reading all the comments as viewers cheer on each subreddit.
When r/trees wend private I was thinking “shit just got real.”
Anyway, I suggest watching the stream, if just for the cameraderie.
Senseibull 9 points 3 years ago
There’s a trees sub-lemmy but it only had pictures of actual trees when I checked yesterday
hannadryad 3 points 3 years ago
No 1. The Larch
KickMeElmo 32 points 3 years ago
This is just beautiful to watch. For once reddit comes together to spite... reddit.
ramblechat 28 points 3 years ago
"6236/7265 subreddits are currently dark."
85.83%
That's a pretty good response from the subs.
grizzzlay 3 points 3 years ago
I'm hoping that a great deal of mods out there will continue to stay dark if nothing changes. And I expect nothing from Reddit's admin team to change. Just let the site devalue for the rest of the month to bots posting the same garbage over and over.
NattyNatty2x4 2 points 3 years ago
Nah the admins will probably change. Just for the worse. If things continue for too long, I fully expect them to kick out the mods for most of the subs and start making mods of scabs
Spzi 1 point 3 years ago
The latest (and highest) shows to me as 66.4%. But that is 2.23 billion subscribers!
That's in the league of Facebook, YouTube, WhatsApp or Instagram (if we ignore the difference between users and active users).
I'm proud of my fellow redditors, did not think this would gain that much traction.
HowieDewitt 1 point 3 years ago
93% now
brunofin 25 points 3 years ago
It's sad though I truly enjoyed Reddit like obviously many here, but also to be fair I've also felt like the quality of posts and comments overall degraded and the whole thing turned into a big meme factory where only funny images with text and tiktok reposts really were uploaded.
The whole thing started going downhills as soon as the first tiktok reposts started flooding in to be fairly honest. Let's please not let this happen much here, unless of course in dedicated communities for that because everything has a place.
Also, this is my first ever post on Lemmy, hi 👋
Whooping_Seal 9 points 3 years ago
I feel like this still depended on community. There was plenty of more niche hobby specific communities that were enjoyable. r/coffee comes to mind for me or something like r/fountain pens. I still enjoyed r/Analog although that had it’s own issues.
that_one_guy 4 points 3 years ago
Yeah there are going to be quite a few TTRPG subreddits that I will miss. I really hope that the fediverse will be able to grow enough that niche interest pages can thrive here like they did over on reddit.
CanadaPlus 3 points 3 years ago
Hello!
IcedCoffeeBitch 30 points 3 years ago
Our first hug of death!
tchotchony 10 points 3 years ago
Aww, lemmy is officially grown up now!
thedeserter 21 points 3 years ago
I do hope the ones going dark migrate here and start over.
thedeserter 5 points 3 years ago
As they say, the more the merrier :)
xaon_rider92 20 points 3 years ago
so many have gone dark already, this is impressive.
lodion 20 points 3 years ago
Nice to see the subreddits listed by subs. Reddit can't ignore this... interested to see how they respond. I'm sure it will be some half baked knee jerk reaction that will get the community even more against them.
RedPander 16 points 3 years ago
I'm not entirely sure. Seems like there will be plenty of inertia from the subreddits remaining open. I'd imagine that eventually Reddit will force them open again.
But they aren't going to be getting those moderators back on the site without some sort of change. It'll be really interesting to see how much of an impact that has.
Slartibartfast 17 points 3 years ago
Reddit will replace the mod teams of the core subs with some of the many power hungry citizens of the web.
If they need to I expect they will pay contracts for them.
I'm not optimistic that it will affect Reddit.
EnglishMobster 18 points 3 years ago
Reddit paying moderators means they have editorial control, which means they lose safe harbor protections and are liable for all content on their site.
Arguably, Reddit picking moderators may have the same effect. See https://caselaw.findlaw.com/....
JustBrian7872 11 points 3 years ago
I fell like throwing out the mods might just be that reaction. Anyway if anything, I might only share Lemmy content on Reddit in the future.
GhostMagician 20 points 3 years ago
Wow /r/nba decided to go dark. So unexpected and huge respect to the mods there. Really huge one with the NBA finals going on too.
Uncreative_name 3 points 3 years ago
How will I know, without jumping onto the game thread, that the refs are terrible, and that both teams are being simultaneously helped and hindered by each and every call for/against them?
esaru 18 points 3 years ago
This one has a pretty nice look with a list of all 6000 participating subreddits and fading in in real-time when a subreddit goes dark:
QuarterSwede 4 points 3 years ago
Love that site. Great to watch.
Silviecat44 2 points 3 years ago
So satisfying
XXXalio 16 points 3 years ago
Here's a live Twitch stream tracking the subreddits going down based upon your link, which is based upon r/Modcoord .
araquen 12 points 3 years ago
Yeah, from what I understand, so many gave the website the hug of death they had to switch to streaming to keep the site up.
Whether or not this “Great Darkening” has any legs, it certainly got a lot of publicity.
cloudynight88 13 points 3 years ago
Feels a little apocalyptic.
setsneedtofeed 4 points 3 years ago
We shall see which subs stay closed past two days. A lot of moderators have said they will reopen because otherwise Reddit will remove them. Saying out loud that the protest is toothless. Only the moderators willing to be removed will have any impact. If there is a mass de-modding that requires Reddit Corporate to fill in permanently with their own mods, only then will lasting actual damage be done. Otherwise, the protest is a speedbump that Corporate won’t even feel.
tchotchony 10 points 3 years ago
We're at 1960/6001 right now. So almost 1/3. And the US is still 6 hours away from midnight, I suspect well over half to be dark eventually.
BeardedGuy 16 points 3 years ago
Man, it's so satisfying to watch all of these subreddits switch to green. I really wish more of them committed to an indefinite shutdown though.
lorossi97 15 points 3 years ago
I don't see myself going back to Reddit if they keep those subs closed down. However I do believe that if this "strike" goes on for longer than a week or so, the admins will forcefully replace each closed subreddit mods to make them live again.
hildegunst 22 points 3 years ago
I hope that if that actually happens they'll find no volunteers to actually mod those subs and realize they'll actually have to hire and pay the people that actually makes their site usable
Hamartiogonic 7 points 3 years ago
Probably won’t matter much when critical mod tools suddenly stop working.
BeardedSingleMalt 6 points 3 years ago
The same powermods that teed up his prepared answers...
witchonabike 3 points 3 years ago
Probably yes. That will make quality tank badly.
Chapi_Chan 15 points 3 years ago
Oh god here it comes. So long and thanks for all the fish.
Sintamo 21 points 3 years ago
I went LiveJournal > Digg > Reddit, and there's definitely a similar energy to the Digg days - but the level of organization we're seeing here feels totally new. The other difference though, is that the Digg migration had direction. It felt like within a month we had all moved to Reddit. I don't see that happening here, so really this is uncharted territory. It'll be fun to watch, that's for sure.
Trainguyrom 8 points 3 years ago
I predict it'll be like the Twitter debacle at the end of lady year. It'll lead to a big migration to the fediverse but many will cling onto the platform as it circles the drain. Maybe Reddit and/or Twitter will manage to pull a GameStop or maybe they'll crash and burn like RadioShack
TechyDad 14 points 3 years ago
I found a different one, posted by the author on the DataIsBeautiful subreddit: https://blackout.photon-reddit.com/
ShartyWaffles 5 points 3 years ago
This just shows an empty page with “ A little fast huh?” for me
GlassHalfHopeful 14 points 3 years ago
This has been super interesting. I’ve never seen communities listed in this manner. I’d be interested in this kind of sort for other services as well.
Really hoping to see major players go dark soon and wishing they would stay that way, like r/videos plans to. Oh, what the world would be like if corporations actually cared about the people they profit from.
pridefulofbeing 11 points 3 years ago
The site has been overloaded, so now they are streaming it on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/reddark_247
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lowleveldata 9 points 3 years ago
So they use reddit APIs to check the status? They must be very rich
CarbonWriter 6 points 3 years ago
According to their GitHub page (their code is all open source), they pull the data from the r/modcoord sub.
President_Pyrus 3 points 3 years ago
I guess they use /r/modcoord to find out which subreddits to check. And then use the API or something else to check if the subreddits are private.
Senseibull 2 points 3 years ago
Probably a curl command piped into greping key words, which does use the API yeah
StrayCatFrump 9 points 3 years ago
blackout.photon-reddit.com
Damn. That is only a tiny little dip in the post/comment rate so far relative to the historical cycle. What, maybe 5%, assuming the vertical axis crosses at zero? Not terribly encouraging....
setsneedtofeed 16 points 3 years ago
I’ve continued to tell people: This won’t kill Reddit in the sense of outright turning it into a ghost town. If your only goal is to make Reddit collapse overnight, you’re going to be disappointed. The quality content that many people here enjoy is not what makes up the frontpage of r/all or what a huge amount of passive users consume. Reddit has more than enough low quality trash to backfill the frontpage and keep users occupied.
Anybody migrating should focus on porting quality content. Let reddit live long and be a dumping ground.
strainedl0ve 3 points 3 years ago
I see this less as a damage to Reddit, and more as an opportunity to diversify, make people aware of the threat of centralised corporate-run platforms, and to build the federated internet alternatives a bit more, to give them momentum.
CanadaPlus 3 points 3 years ago
It's more about reaching a tipping point where adding a new user to something else (fingers crossed for Fediverse) makes it a palatable alternative for more than one redditor. The network effect is a thing, so it exists, and if enough people get kicked off of an app they like it's not impossible to hit.
TexMexBazooka 11 points 3 years ago
My partner is a casual reddit user; the experience change was immediately apparent. She got bored and switched to facebook because all of the niche communities that the larger subreddits repost from went silent.
BlackCoffee 6 points 3 years ago
This should be bumped.
The smaller/niche communities is what made Reddit interesting.
When those eventually decide to pack and the only vibrant communities are the meme subreddits etc then you would probably see a drop in usage.
squaresinger 6 points 3 years ago
Yeah, I was negatively surprised as well. Almost 60% of all big SFW subreddits closed, and still only a small percentage less posts and comments.
a_statistician 10 points 3 years ago
Reddit may also be astroturfing their own site to make it look like there's not much effect of the blackout.
squaresinger 1 point 3 years ago
I wonder how much the stats were boosted by all those people asking where their subreddits have gone. Today seems to dip lower than yesterday, probably because everyone by now knows what happened.
nottheengineer 4 points 3 years ago
The large subs and front page just consist of bots reposting the same old content. The bots are easy to tell apart from real people just by eye, so I'm sure that reddit either has no problem with that or that they made these bots themselves to hide the fact that actual users are becoming less and less.
troye888 2 points 3 years ago
It seems like the servers are having some trouble [https://www.redditstatus.com/]. Couldnt have chosen a beter time
A1kmm 9 points 3 years ago
Also a good opportunity to back it up everyone with just not visiting their site. I've added 127.0.0.1 reddit.com old.reddit.com www.reddit.com mod.reddit.com i.reddit.com to my hosts file so I don't accidentally follow a link to Reddit (I think they have a lot more subdomains, so the hosts file based approach isn't perfect, but hopefully good enough for a quick solution).
xvlc 3 points 3 years ago
i.redd.it and v.redd.it might make sense as well. There is a bunch of subdomains and other domains (…oauth.reddit.com, …redditmedia.com, …), but they are only used if you connect the the main sites (i. e., not hot-linked), so blocking those will be sufficient to block all reddit-traffic.
BitOneZero 8 points 3 years ago
Community: snoocalypse
PapaTorque 8 points 3 years ago
This is great. Some big ones are already dark.
richie510 7 points 3 years ago
I'm really confused by the chart on the site https://blackout.photon-reddit.com/ I understand the dip annotated with the red arrow, but I do not understand the rebound annotated with the green arrow... With that many sites down, it should not be possible to rebound to normal levels...
sydneybrokeit 10 points 3 years ago
Because that dip isn't due to the blackout. Reddit was pretty hard down for about an hour.
RedPander 8 points 3 years ago
I could actually see engagement staying relatively the same since most people are probably popping Reddit open for a few minutes, maybe engaging, then moving on.
What I do find odd is how consistent Posts per minute are over time. But it doesn't dip or rise with comments. So now I'm wondering how automated a lot of posting is.
Master 7 points 3 years ago
If you go to the site and view by new it's just page after page of /r/askreddit. Tons of people posting to it with nowhere else to post. So that would explain some of the rebound but the graph is still odd that it rebounded to exactly where it should be if there was no blackout.
esaru 11 points 3 years ago
I think many go dark without announcement. In the last hours the list of participating subreddits grew from 3500 to 6000. You can search it on https://reddark.untone.uk/, it's there now.
SpookyBogMonster 7 points 3 years ago
In the last hours the list of participating subreddits grew from 3500 to 6000
Holy shit that's a big spike!
Silviecat44 6 points 3 years ago
This is amazing
Senseibull 6 points 3 years ago
I’m watching the lights go out in real time here with this site, it’s really cool to see!
derived_allegory 5 points 3 years ago
It appears that r/videos is public again and someone has posted 6h ago. Anyone know what is going on?
ioNabio 5 points 3 years ago
I wish someone or a dev could make this list in these website and propose lemmy/kbin equivalents for us the redditors to join instead. On the other hands mods of those subreddits if they want they can make a community over these platforms.
ioNabio 3 points 3 years ago
It is probably a lot of learning for them also that they don’t want to commit. Once enough or dedicated communities form all will join. I have seen a few of subreddits that went dark opened discord servers. I have a few hobbies and there are already servers that are better than Reddit, which I hope attracts users here ( for me it is VR/AR and 3d printing.). I am going to invest in programming communities here at least until other communities grow.
blindsight 3 points 3 years ago
I know some subreddits are just locking new submissions, not going private. Does this tool track that, or exclusively those that go private?
that_one_guy 4 points 3 years ago
This makes a lot of sense. I was curious about this too, but didn't want to give reddit any traffic during the protest by checking out any of the subs to see what's going on.
TechnologyClassroom 1 point 3 years ago
It must track only the ones that are private. It doesn't show Explain Like I'm Five as green. They said they would leave a stickied post that is informative about the protest and block all new submissions.
nottheengineer 3 points 3 years ago
r/stocks is private at the moment, so maybe just an issue with the data collection.
pridefulofbeing 4 points 3 years ago
This is great to see. Thanks for sharing.
dragonfornicator 4 points 3 years ago
The notifications contain the wrong amount of members for the subreddit, they all say 5k and below ^^ Not that it really matters, just FYI
dragonfornicator 2 points 3 years ago
Well, it was fixed regardless ^^
GlassHalfHopeful 4 points 3 years ago
Was gonna share this here myself and then realized I still don’t now how to search Lemmy on either client I use. 🤦🏾♂️
GlassHalfHopeful 4 points 3 years ago
Weird. Seems there is a search button on the mobile interface, but it's bugged out on my browser. Haven't found it on the Jerboa app yet.
GlassHalfHopeful 2 points 3 years ago
I presume you mean the communities "list" button (there lines bulleted)? After clicking, it does have a search bar. However, that's for searching communities rather that posts. Just tried it to find a posts about "super communities" and nothing is listed.
This is the search feature via (beehaw) Lemmy: https://beehaw.org/...
P. S. The notification for replies also didn't bring me here on click with Jerboa. I had to open back up my browser and click the notification there. 🤪
It's all good. It's going to take Jerboa time to catch up, which I get.
xilophor 2 points 3 years ago
Looks like if you hold the empty section of the content of the notification, you can pull up some context buttons that allow you to open the comment or reply. A bit weird but I'm guessing that'll be changed sometime soon
charlytune 12 points 3 years ago
I just had a quick look on the front page on mobile browser, not logged in, and the top 2nd, 3rd, and 4th 'hot' posts are about the blackout, and the 'top' post is a thank you from the Apollo app creator.
(This is my first attempt at uploading a pic on here so 🤞)
karburator 5 points 3 years ago
Is there a way to see what subs re dark out of the actual total?
https://blackout.photon-reddit.com
Choose 'percent' on the third card on the left.
crank 1 point 3 years ago
I think you have a wider display than I do as I only have 2 columns. ;)
This one?
So I am guessing this is representing each subreddit as 1 not matter the size? Is it counting all subreddits that exist or the top 1500 (by whatever metric)?
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buried_alive 1 point 3 years ago
Reddit itself seems to be completely down for me. I wonder if this is drawing a lot of attention and just overloading them, or tinfoil hat, they’re shutting off the servers to hide all the blackouts…
TexMexBazooka 1 point 3 years ago
My partner had the same issue this morning
destructdisc 1 point 3 years ago
Is blackout.photon-reddit.com down?
geschtonkennflapped 1 point 3 years ago
I'm getting a 502 over here
RedPander 1 point 3 years ago
The twitch stream @XXXalio@lemmy.world posted might be the best option: Stream
thanks for using Leebra!
go to feed...
Just flipped the switch (so to speak) on a couple subs I moderate, and the largest (just shy of 1m users) will be going dark in a few hours.
What surprised me most is how well the members are took it. To be fair the subs I moderated are typically quite tech-minded, so everyone is quite in-the-know with what is happening and why.
It makes me furious that a site built and maintained by the users is being exploited at the users' expense.
I hope Reddit bleeds money from this silly line they drew in the sand.
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