Israel frees colonist who stripped a Palestinian man naked, zip-tied his penis and paraded him around in front of his family,

8 days ago by technocrit to c/aboringdystopia

Aralakh 84 points 8 days ago

the colonizer who allegedly

....BUT

Corroborated by multiple witnesses.

What the fuck, tired of seeing language devices like "allegedly" being used to frame reporting of this genocide. Free Palestine! And fuck off jizzrael

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Grail 16 points 7 days ago

Elon Musk allegedly had botched penis enlargement surgery for his alleged micropenis

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Aralakh 3 points 6 days ago

Lol. Again this statement could be corroborated -- by his baby mammas 🤢. Though I wouldn't bat an eye at something about Musk

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theacharnian 59 points 7 days ago

And yet when Palestinians express hatred for Israelis it's categorized as antisemitism.

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spitfire 30 points 7 days ago

And there’s more Semite blood in Palestinians than in most of the inhabitants of Israel

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liuther9 -4 points 7 days ago

Spread the antisemitism! See how world becomes better

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NoneOfUrBusiness -19 points 7 days ago

I mean, no, when Palestinians express hatred of Jews it's categorized as antisemitism, which it should be. It's essentially inevitable given, well, everything, but still.

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theolodis 11 points 7 days ago

Every israeli settler is a jew, but not every jew is an israeli settler, and I don't think Palestinians hate anybody but the settlers.

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NoneOfUrBusiness -6 points 7 days ago

I mean it's hard to find data that doesn't come from people like the Anti-defamation League (whose claims should obviously be dismissed), so you'll have to make do with examples, but there are plenty of examples:

In July 1990, the Palestinian Liberation Organization-affiliated Palestinian Red Crescent published an article in its magazine Balsam claiming that Jews concocted, "The lie concerning the gas chambers." Gradually, throughout the 1990s, Holocaust denial became commonplace in popular media in the Middle East, particularly in the Palestinian Authority.

The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Sheikh Ekrima Sa'id Sabri appeared on the Saudi satellite channel Al-Majd on February 20, 2005, commenting on the assassination of the former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. "Anyone who studies The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and specifically the Talmud," he said, "will discover that one of the goals of these Protocols is to cause confusion in the world and to undermine security throughout the world."

Now it's possible that these statements by political and religious leaders don't represent the broader populace, but nothing I've seen suggests this, nor would it track with the attitude of other peoples who have suffered oppression for a long time. The opposite would also track with the long history of Palestinian terror attacks (not resistance, which is obviously valid and just, but specifically the terror attacks, which BTW aren't restricted to Hamas); the assumption seems to be that most if not all Jews are Zionists out for their blood. The problem here is that the only Jews the vast majority of Palestinians will interact with or see in the news are murderous Zionists, so the mental model of "Jew = murderous Zionist" works well enough to just be accepted as fact.

Edit: Slight rephrasing, content is the same.

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theolodis 5 points 6 days ago

The opposite would also track with the long history of Palestinian terror attacks (not resistance, which is obviously valid and just, but specifically the terror attacks, which BTW aren't restricted to Hamas)

Tell me more about those Palestinian terror attacks that are not resistance. When did they happen? And what makes you think some fighting is resistance, and some isn't? Are you a specialist in resistance?

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PetteriPano 55 points 8 days ago

*colonist

You mean invader, right?

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Bane_Killgrind 29 points 8 days ago

Sexual predator

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PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S 16 points 8 days ago

Yes, but I would argue that "colonist" is a little more precise since the term colonialism is backed by decades of analysis and decolonizing practice, and it precisely fits this phenomenon (although I would prefer "colonizer" rather than "colonist" since "colonize" is a verb and colonialism is actively being pursued, particularly by the subject of the OP).

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roofuskit 8 points 8 days ago

Same difference

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curve 2 points 6 days ago

Terrorist works IMO.

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Formfiller 43 points 7 days ago

These are Nazis. Evey IDF soldier should be arrested for crimes against humanity. End dual citizenship now

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TankovayaDiviziya 28 points 7 days ago

These are Nazis

Ironically, the person who pioneered the study on trauma is a son of a Holocaust survivor. His first observation on the effects of trauma was when his father told him to follow orders just because. He told his dad that he sounded like the Nazis who imprisoned him.

Unfortunately, Israel became the very thing they hate. And for as long as I can remember, I have thought that "you become what you hate", which is what most people are afraid to think about.

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orioler25 16 points 7 days ago

You know this was happening before the Holocaust, right? Zionism emerged in the late-nineteenth and early-twentieth centuries as ethnic Jewish people began emigrating to Palestine in larger numbers during a period of increased discrimination across Europe, the Balfour Declaration was in 1917. Colonialism is fundamentally genocidal, and this was not inspired by the Holocaust, merely energized by it.

Israel is a genocidal, settler-colonial state, not Harvey Dent.

Edit: Okay so this guy did actually mean to minimize Israel's genocidal intent. The thread below is him trying to use (inaccurate) Irish history to argue that it's actually both sides guys totally. I don't think I've met a single European on this site who didn't express bloodthirst when in a discussion on colonialism.

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TankovayaDiviziya 2 points 7 days ago

I don't know, there is too much noise with regards to who has the rights on the land etc. As someone from Ireland, I see a huge parallel with Israel-Palestine conflict and the Northern Ireland conflict from thirty years ago. To oversimplify the latter, it was a conflict between the mostly Protestant pro-British versus the mostly Irish nationalist Catholics. The conflict in Northern Ireland was centuries in the making which peaked and pretty much stopped in 1990s when both communities reconciled and let go of revanchism; agreeing that no one side will dominate over the other and to agree mutually.

Scholars from both Palestinian and Israeli sides advocate to emulate the peaceful resolution on Israel and Palestine like that in Northern Ireland (which I think most people brush aside when brought up because the Northern Ireland Troubles happened long ago, or the person being told has too much emotion invested on siding either Palestine or Israel). Nonetheless, two state solution as already insisted upon by the UN, or power sharing like in Northern Ireland, whichever-- just stop the killing. The main issue is there is too much had blood between Israelis and Palestinians to see reason. It already happened and it's like trying to abort a baby already born. We can't kick out Israelis in the same way as we can't kick out Afrikaners from South Africa, or the pro-British Northern Irish, or black, brown or white people from Americas, New Zealand and Australia-- countries which have more recent history of settler colonial foundation. Heck, most of the world is arguably settler colonial. Ainus came first before the now dominant Yamato people settled Japan. Even before brown people came to South East Asia, there are already black people living in the region.

I'm going on a bit of a rant and say the problem is the tribalistic mind from our unevolved lizard brain is having difficulty evolving with modern realities and progress of time. We still think a piece of rock is our own territory as if we're still tiny animals fighting over a one metre rock.

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orioler25 1 point 2 days ago

Oh my, sorry I missed this earlier. Yes, this is distortively oversimplified.

So, no, a complex system of colonialism, racialization, tools of genocide dependent on globalized economics and supply chains, and institutions of knowledge production are not part of our, "lizard brains." But to suggest that the underlying imperialism and genocide somehow is is a very popular, ahistorical narrative deployed by fascists, like Zionists, to naturalize their actions. If it is "natural" for humans to be "tribalistic," and tribalism inevitably results in genocide and imperialism, then there is no way to stop what they're doing and most importantly, no point in trying. This is, of course, a lie.

We have many examples of cultural or ethnic groups cooperating over territory well before and after this modern period. For example, the Dish Wirh One Spoon Wampum between the Anishinaabe and Haudenosaunee in the Great Lakes Region of North America coexisted with British racialization and colonization of Gaelic peoples in Ireland. In fact, we know that the concept of territory as you naturalized here doesn't even apply to this agreement, as it presumes territory and land are equivalent, and both are commodified. Conversely, their agreement ensured a shared, "international" access to the land's resources on its terms as well as the nations who were a part of it.

This is all of course besides the egregious assertion that there is somehow an equivalence between the violence of the colonizer and colonized. No, self-defense is not the same as murder, and a victim is not irrational for refusing to stop so long as the murderer will not. Israel is a settler-colonial state, and as all of its kind it not only employs, but requires genocide to exist. It is founded on the notion that territory, which is the same as land in this understanding, ought to belong to a privileged, idealized group of people. There is no world where these systems exist and do not seek to continue their genocide of any and all indigenous peoples. This system exists not because it is inevitable, but because there is a vested interest of the EU, UK, Canada, US, Australia, every settler-colonial state in the world to safeguard Israel's power to commit that genocide as they all must and do. Ireland is actually a great example of how this functions since, as a colonized land and people, there is certainly more empathy and sympathy for Palestinians than many other global north cultures. However, that doesn't mean the Republic of Ireland will leave the EU so long as it is complacent in the genocide of Palestinians. It is for the same reason that Israel is very much a EuroAmerican project.

That is why it is such a strawman to behave as though decolonization amounts to, "kicking the white people out," even if that wouldn't be necessarily unjust to demand. Settler-colonialism is a system, a set of socially constructed relations, and decolonialism is the movement to deconstruct that system. A two-state solution is not that, and its use in Ireland has tellingly not resolved the centuries of continued harm to Irish Gaelic peoples. When you say violence only stops when "both sides," agree to stop, you have discounted the reality that this system can afford to postpone genocide. Canada and the US have legal guarantees for indigenous nations within their occupied territory that often function comparably to two-state solutions in their focus on autonomy and sovereignty, it would be laughable to say that this means neither the US or Canada have genocidal intentions toward those nations. There is little immediate or mass violence related to colonization projects in North America at this point not because both sides have agreed to peace, but because the colonizers have adopted more abstract, occluding mechanisms of genocide that can act slowly over generations. You are always wrong to say people should not fight that. Nobody is telling settlers to 'go home,' but that doesn't mean you can just expect them to lay down and die for the convenience of momentary peace.

Also, indigenous peoples do not live on "rock," they live in relationship to an ecosystem and all living things in it as well as the generations of memory and culture that they embody in relation to those living things. To suggest that indigenous peoples are defending "rock," is, quite frankly, genocidal in its attempt to minimize the rationality of their self-defense. Even if it was just a rock, that doesn't erase their relationship.I have my grandmother's flatware, it is hardly just "aluminum," and it isn't nearly as important to me as my home or the memories they are a part of. I seriously doubt you'd reduce it in this way if you were victimized by this system in the same way Palestinians have.

I'm not sure if you intended to promote fascism, but you did whether you wanted to or not. It is crucial to interrogate our own assumptions and ways of knowing this world exactly because settler-colonial institutions exert so much power over how we are able to engage with the world. If something does not make sense to you, it is better to consider that you do not understand it well enough than assume that others are simply less reasonable than you.

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WorldsDumbestMan 4 points 6 days ago

Victims do become perpertators, and are then punished too. They get double-fucker.

Amazing how you can make someone evil with enough torture.

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orioler25 1 point 2 days ago

Tremendous work as always, WorldsDumbestMan.

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100_kg_90_de_belin 3 points 7 days ago

I'm not really quite sure anymore that Israelis have ever hated Nazis.

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webghost0101 7 points 7 days ago

*zionists would be more accurate.

There is historical precedent but with some nuance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

Inscription : “A Nazi goes to Palestine”

The nuance is that the coin likely was made as a propaganda piece by the nazis to mock the jews who sided with them.

Still the agreement between the zionist german bank and the nazis did break the anti-nazi boycott held in multiple countries and allowed many zionist who where prosecuted jews to transfer some of their economic assets to Palestine and migrate with the explicit intention to form Israel.

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100_kg_90_de_belin 2 points 7 days ago

Still the agreement between the zionist german bank and the nazis did break the anti-nazi boycott held in multiple countries

WTF

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BigMacHole 23 points 7 days ago

Anyone who DOESNT like Ziptieing Penises is ANTI SEMETIC!

-The BBC!

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kuiskaaja 2 points 6 days ago

the penis was antiseptic

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spitfire 17 points 7 days ago

Can we just call them terrorists or invaders? How would you call me, if I’ve invaded your house, assaulted, humiliated and drove you off?

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BigBoyShuanzee 15 points 6 days ago

I will always ALWAYS call Israel a terrorist state. Fuck Israel. Glad I can say this here.. Reddit would ban me.

Fuck Israel, Fuck Netanyahu! Israel is the new Nazis!

I really didn't wish I had to say this message over and fucking over but seriously fuck Israel.

I'm against every religion on earth but I'm also against evil nazi-level sadistic Israelis killing children even more. I'm also against Islamic people wanting to marry children and I'm against the Catholic church wanting to rape children.

They're're all evil.

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BarneyPiccolo 4 points 6 days ago

For all of Lindsey Graham's and MAGA's constant screaming that Iran is "the biggest state sponsor of terror," it's clear to the entire world that that title is held by the United States first, and Israel second. No nation commits more terrorism that America and Israel. It's not even close.

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Prathas 3 points 6 days ago

You're They're all evil.

FTFY.

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BigBoyShuanzee 1 point 5 days ago

Corrected, thankyou

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BeatTakeshi 9 points 6 days ago

"Terrorist state frees terrorist? Who would have guessed?"

- Emmanuel Macron
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daychilde 7 points 7 days ago

#notallisraelis (gosh I hope the sarcasm comes through)

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Abyssian 5 points 6 days ago

"They're good people, they were just playing a practical joke on him."

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OpieSmith1 5 points 6 days ago path: 0 25287376, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 0
LSNLDN 4 points 7 days ago

Good, he’s been named. He won’t avoid consequences for long.

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WorldsDumbestMan 3 points 6 days ago

They are pervert freaks too!

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Pruning9165 2 points 5 days ago

We should stop calling them colonists or settlers

They're neither, we should use proper terminology for that

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deathbird 2 points 7 days ago

Whenever I read stories like this I think of the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.

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JigglySackles 2 points 6 days ago

They probably gave him a kosher cigar and a pat on the back too.

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