Yeah, poverty has been a form of control for very long time.
Could AI create a ‘permanent underclass’?
2 months ago by sanitation to c/technology
random_character_a 7 points 2 months ago
Tollana1234567 1 point 2 months ago
yea, Ai is a permanent barrier.
Uli 2 points 2 months ago
That's the reason for the qualifier "by and large." Yes, it is possible, but not equally achievable for all people in poverty be it due to individual circumstance or lack of personal ability. I'm quite happy for your parents and I'm sure they must have worked hard to find success. But the system would not allow for the underclass as a whole to find a way out of poverty at the same time. The only way that can happen is to change the system.
percent -3 points 2 months ago
As a guy who clawed my way out of poverty, I can warn you: People who state those opinions on the Internet almost never want to hear about a success story — even if it could help others. (Not that downvotes even matter though)
ctrl_alt_esc 13 points 2 months ago
That's not an opinion, it's an anecdote. Even if it were true, it does not contradict the first guy's claim that "by and large" poor people do not leave poverty.
eldebryn 1 point 2 months ago
You have it wrong, people don't despire nor are envious of your success.
People are just aware of this kind of "rags to riches (or just middle class)" transition based on hard work is the exception, not the rule. Countless people work as hard as you did, maybe more, and yet will see almost no improvement in their socioeconomic class.
More importantly this "success story" is so often used by capitalism and neoliberal supporters as "evidence" that "system works" and all you need to do is work hard. Which is, frankly put, just propaganda when we can all see that the main statistical factor for becoming rich is just how rich your parents already were.
percent 1 point 2 months ago
I didn't have a rich family. My parents were poor for my entire childhood, and remained poor until their deaths. All other relatives are poor too (very small family). I'm not rich by any means; just financially comfortable.
Most success stories I've heard from people who brought themselves out of poverty, had no political "odor" to them at all. Having enough spare time to think about politics seems like a bit of a luxury when you're too busy trying to survive while also working towards carefully planned goals. In fact, if such a success story smells political even a little bit, and it's on the Internet, then yeah, it's probably not to be trusted.
stellargmite 16 points 2 months ago
Much like the underclass of those of us who cant afford to read the article.
jumping_redditor 0 points 2 months ago
capitalism has more social mobility than feudalism
Unsealed9041 8 points 2 months ago
No, but it could continue what feudalism did and Capitalism maintained.
postmateDumbass 4 points 2 months ago
Actually effective AI paired with robotics would eliminate the need for a large underclass.
And you might note the glorification of mass slaughter the past few years.
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There already is a permanent underclass. Do poor people by and large claw their way out? No.
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