Luigi Mangione admits to killing healthcare CEO in stunning court confession

2 months ago by slaacaa to c/luigimangione

Mangione pleads guilty to two federal stalking charges as future of state murder case remains unclear
jtrek 109 points 2 months ago

Really was hoping for a jury nullification. I don't care if he did it. I don't care who did it. People knowingly making massive profits on misery and cruelty don't deserve peaceful lives.

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Cethin 36 points 2 months ago

Yep. The real injustice is all the people who died due to the CEOs actions, and that he would have faced zero consequences. Why are they not held accountable just because they can stand a little further away from the murders?

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BeardededSquidward 12 points 2 months ago

They have the money to grease the right people's pockets.

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Sunshine 8 points 2 months ago

White Russian monarchists included.

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UPGRAYEDD 3 points 2 months ago

Thats like.. your opinion man....

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lemmygarden 103 points 2 months ago

He should be pardoned and released

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unitedwithme 29 points 2 months ago

I said if I made president he'd be pardoned. I'm not messing. I'm thinking of running, and the more I think, the more I want to fix the system for us little guys. I'll probably "Epstein" myself or fall out of a highrise window, but I'm thinking that's a risk I'll have to take.

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VitoRobles 20 points 2 months ago

If violent terrorists on Jan 6 can be pardoned to then commit more crime, Luigi can be pardoned.

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LostCarcosan 6 points 2 months ago

Fuck it, can't be worse than what we got going on now. You got my vote

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WolfLink 3 points 2 months ago

I’d vote for a rando on the internet over anyone who was on the ballot during the last two elections

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jerkface -52 points 2 months ago

just because? what is your legal philosophy here

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Coupable 69 points 2 months ago

Because he killed a monster. Monster hunters are heroes not criminals.

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jerkface -67 points 2 months ago

Well I checked the law and there's no exception for monster hunters. It turns out that if you plan and execute a homicide, you're a criminal, even if you kill a monster. WHO KNEW???

The only morally self-consistent way to approach this is as civil disobedience. You gotta take the punishment or you're not an activist, you're just another monster.

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decolo 58 points 2 months ago

Slavery was and still is legal, so maybe reconsider what point you're making here.

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curbstickle_lw 45 points 2 months ago

What is legal is not always right, and what is right is not always legal - paraphrased from Algernon Sidley, late 1600s.

Full Quote

That which is not just, is not Law; and that which is not Law, ought not to be obeyed.

… the directive power of the law, which is certain, and grounded upon the inherent good and rectitude that is in it, is that alone which has a power over the conscience, whereas the coercive is merely contingent; and the most just powers commanding the most just things, have so often fallen under the violence of the most unjust men, commanding the most execrable villainies, that if they were therefore to be obeyed, the consciences of men must be regulated by the success of a battle or conspiracy, than which nothing can be affirmed more impious and absurd….

If this were so, the governments of the world might be justly called magna latrocinia; and men laying aside all considerations of reason or justice, ought only to follow those who can inflict the greatest punishments, or give the greatest rewards. But since the reception of such opinions would be the extirpation of all that can be called good, we must look for another rule of our obedience, and shall find that to be the law, which being, as I said before, sanctio recta, must be founded upon that eternal principle of reason and truth, from whence the rule of justice which is sacred and pure ought to be deduced, and not from the depraved will of man, which fluctuating according to the different interests, humors and passions that at several times reign in several nations, one day abrogates what had been enacted the other. The sanction therefore that deserves the name of a law, which derives not its excellency from antiquity, or from the dignity of the legislators, but from an intrinsick equity and justice, ought to be made in pursuance of that universal reason to which all nations at all times owe an equal veneration and obedience.

A few examples for you (aside from the blatantly obvious and well known like slavery)

  • Jim Crow Laws
  • The Bloody Code (1700s England)
  • French salt tax
  • Vagrancy laws (still exist, and are nowhere near right)
  • Anti-LGBTQ laws - some are historic, some are current
  • Magdalene Laundries
  • the Combination Acts
  • Forced Assimilation laws
  • Window Tax
  • Debt Slavery
  • Three Strike laws
  • Civil asset forfeiture
  • Joint Enterprise laws
  • Extended detention without charge
  • Public protest bans
  • Tied visa systems
  • Sub-minimum wage exemptions

The list goes on and on and on. Many of which are still legal today, or have been reworked for the same effect and are in effect today.

Being "legal" or "illegal" is a distinction without merit.

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Coupable 21 points 2 months ago

Fuck off nerd

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Mistakes 17 points 2 months ago

He's doing civil disobedience by your definition. Literally pleading guilty. In the hypothetical where he receives a pardon, nothing has changed in that regard.

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dickalan 9 points 2 months ago

hey 🤓

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NoPanko 73 points 2 months ago

“I killed him, yeah” -Zac Oyama

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SkyezOpen 33 points 2 months ago

"I'll fuckin do it again." - Goofy

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slaacaa 69 points 2 months ago

“I shot Mr. Thompson and he died,” Mangione said. “I understood that my actions would place him in fear of death or bodily injury. I knew what I was doing was illegal.”

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tanisnikana 71 points 2 months ago

He’s a liar, he was with me the whole time, in Oregon.

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Sunshine 45 points 2 months ago

They forced him to say that hogwash. He is innocent.

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Sunshine 68 points 2 months ago

United Health is trying to assainate his character to keep the private healthcare grift going.

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gedfromgont 28 points 2 months ago

Uh, they don't really need to. Has anything meaningful changed for you over there in the US since that dude got shot?

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anomnom 22 points 2 months ago

Our premiums just went up again

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SpaceNoodle 14 points 2 months ago

Very briefly, they stopped blanket-denting claims.

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chunes 6 points 2 months ago

1 insurance company out of thousands. Mine denied me a much-needed MRI two weeks after the incident.

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SaveTheTuaHawk 0 points 2 months ago

While Trump made healthcare even more expensive.

Absolutely nothing was practically accomplished.

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fyzzlefry 5 points 2 months ago

Would we know if it did? The news doesn't work.

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Sunshine -6 points 2 months ago

Universal Healthcare in the Soviet Union was fought for in blood, the white Russians leadership wanted to leave every everyday Russian for dead.

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FlashMobOfOne 54 points 2 months ago

This doesn't make sense.

I was having ribs with the dude.

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Sunshine 20 points 2 months ago

He was with family having a beer.

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dream_weasel 8 points 2 months ago

I worked hard on those ribs!

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phoenixz 31 points 2 months ago

Other executives from UnitedHealthcare, seated two rows behind the family, struggled to look at Mangione. Several put their hands on their faces, shaking their heads slowly in disbelief.

All we did was condemn millions to pain, suffering and death to maximize shareholder value and pur own bonuses and then a monster like this just comes by and kills us? Unbelievable

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raman_klogius 27 points 2 months ago

Your Honor I call bs

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Zink 27 points 2 months ago

I saw the video and was clearly the same fucker in the photo of the Flock camera vandal.

(shaking fist) Benjamin Netanyahuuuuuu!

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Abyssian 25 points 2 months ago

He was framed! The only thing he killed was my certainty of my heterosexuality.

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certified_expert 25 points 2 months ago

Now what? What's the defense's plan?

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nullspace 29 points 2 months ago

A guilty plea indicates a deal was likely made for a reduced sentence.

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cheese_greater 2 points 2 months ago

They got state and federal 1st degree murder charges dismissed and likely state 2nd degree murder due to double jeopardy or something so thats a still a big deal but it depends on how sentencing goes

Much respect for his fabulous lawyer Karen Friedman Agnifilo. She did a great job

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MushuChupacabra 25 points 2 months ago

That's impossible. I shot him.

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dream_weasel 8 points 2 months ago

Please do not shoot luigi.

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Viking_Hippie 7 points 2 months ago

I'm Spartacus Brian the as of yet unidentified guy in the hoodie they're looking for, and so is my wife!

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SpaceNoodle 5 points 2 months ago

I am Spartacus

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Pennywise 15 points 2 months ago
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WhoIzDisIz 5 points 2 months ago

"I shat him!"

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Pennywise 5 points 2 months ago
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k0e3 14 points 2 months ago

He was shooting hoops with me, not CEOs. That was probably some other hero.

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Pennywise 11 points 2 months ago
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gh0stb4tz 9 points 2 months ago

Jury Nullification.

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RainbowBlite 32 points 2 months ago

No jury in a guilty plea...

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acockworkorange 4 points 2 months ago

He said he armed himself with a gun that he manufactured with a 3D printer and affixed with a silencer.

“I shot Mr. Thompson and he died,” Mangione said. “I understood that my actions would place him in fear of death or bodily injury. I knew what I was doing was illegal.”

This is so extremely convenient to the establishment, it raises suspicion.

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SaveTheTuaHawk 1 point 2 months ago

Or, sometimes a white cat is just a white cat.

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