All 3 cameras working on the Fairphone 6 running Linux

2 months ago by inari to c/linuxphones

All 3 cameras working on the Fairphone 6 running Linux
barnacul 26 points 2 months ago

The world needs Linux phones badly but development is way, way behind what I assumed

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cabbage 30 points 2 months ago

Driver support needs to be done separately for each device, so it's a moving target. Work on Fairphone 6, a pretty new device, seems to be progressing well.

As far as I can tell Ubuntu Touch, Sailfish and postmarketOS are all daily driver ready. In pmOS you typically have the choice between GNOME and KDE, both of which seem to have their fans, meaning there are at least four relatively mature mobile desktop environments.

The biggest problem as far as I can see is app support, which is not a problem of Linux phone development but of monopolistic and/or careless third parties. And even for that Android emulation seems to have gotten pretty good.

I'm not sure what you assumed and how it fails to align with reality, but Linux phones have had camera support a long time. It's just that it needs to be added separately for each device, each time by unpaid hackers who bought the devices for their own money.

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k0e3 3 points 2 months ago

How is pmOS daily driver ready when the OP just got the camera working? I think the other dev JUST got audio and emergency calls working too, right?

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cabbage 10 points 2 months ago

Driver support needs to be done separately for each device, so it’s a moving target. Work on Fairphone 6, a pretty new device, seems to be progressing well.

Daily driver ready in general and daily driver ready on Fairphone 6 are two different things. New phones are released all the time and they all need their own set of drivers and hardware support. That's separate from the operative system itself being ready or not.

Emergency calling worked already, it was just tested so that we now know that it works on the FP6.

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k0e3 4 points 2 months ago

Thank you!!

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TheMightyCat 9 points 2 months ago

The only things not working yet in my image are:

Front camera NPU Fingerprint sensor

If these are not a dealbreaker for being daily driver ready then its daily driver ready.

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k0e3 2 points 2 months ago

Thank you for the clarification! I'd have to be pretty into tinkering with Linux, to use it right? Not that I personally mind, but I don't think it's something I should just recommend my 70yo dad who can barely use macos quite yet as his daily driver... Right?

I really wanna try the fairphone (and your image!) but I can't justify the price. It's not the phone's problem, though, it's more of a problem with my level of disposable income lol

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balsoft 2 points 2 months ago

As far as I can tell Ubuntu Touch, Sailfish and postmarketOS are all daily driver ready.

They are "daily driver ready" in the "Desktop Linux in 2007" sense. You need to know a lot about Linux to daily drive it.

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cabbage 5 points 2 months ago

Sure, it's not for everyone, and software support leaves a lot to be wanted.

It's funny though - I've been using Linux since late 2007, and I have never been a technical user. Best I can do is copy paste things I don't understand into the terminal if absolutely necessary. It always just worked for me. :)

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hexagonwin 10 points 2 months ago

ik this is probably gonna be frowned upon, but would it be possible to make these cameras available inside waydroid then run GCam inside it? maybe that'll produce pretty good images

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cabbage 3 points 2 months ago

It's a great question. When degoogling my android phone camera quality was one of the biggest initial hurdles, currently resolved because Fairphone offers their native camera app to /e/OS. FOSS camera apps for Android sadly do not have competitive picture quality at all.

As pictures are important to me I could absolutely see it being one of the main hurdles when making the change from /e/ to proper Linux on my phone. I should probably find a way to preemptively start donating to the GNOME camera app.

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cyberpunk007 9 points 2 months ago

I have not used a linux phone yet. How is the OS actually? I feel like it's gotta be rough. Are you mostly living out of a web browser? Many of my apps I use to conveniently access with the app method are just websites under the hood, but optimized for a phone obviously.

I guess I'm asking... how is it these days?

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spj -42 points 2 months ago

Hilarious that this is noteworthy

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MentalEdge 28 points 2 months ago

Yes.

All other software that just appears out of thin air, feature complete and bug free.

/S

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zergtoshi 10 points 2 months ago

Name one, just one, other current phone with almost complete Linux support.
I'm not really holding my breath though.

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techognito 8 points 2 months ago

Vollaphone ships multiple phones with Ubuntu Touch, is currently being produced and sold.

The problem is app support more than core OS functionality however.

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zergtoshi 7 points 2 months ago

Yeah, that's why Jolla provides an interesting middle ground.
It's Linux, but not FOSS, yet increases usability by being able to run Android apps.

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dubs 4 points 2 months ago

FLX1s

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jumping_redditor 4 points 2 months ago

Oneplus 6, although that is aging

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AHemlocksLie 7 points 2 months ago

Given it has to be done in defiance of the manufacturer by reverse engineering the drivers... Yeah, it's impressive.

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