good private vr? (i hate meta but im not rich)

20 days ago by lemmingsareawesome to c/privacy

my family has meta quests

they like supernatural and an app the puts images on walls i dont know the apps name

do you have recommendations for vr headsets that are private but convient for normal people?

surewhynotlem 11 points 20 days ago

Valve index. It requires steam, but can work offline.

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lemmingsareawesome 8 points 20 days ago

good software, a bit pricey

steam is good my family likes it

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Strawberry 11 points 20 days ago

All VR is expensive still. Meta quest only goes as low as 650 USD because they subsidize it by spying on you so much.

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kkj 1 point 18 days ago

The Quest 3s is $350 USD.

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Strawberry 2 points 18 days ago

I must admit I forgot about the 3S. The same idea still applies, though. It's only affordable because of the spying. Plus it's got a lower resolution and fresnel lenses like the Quest 2, but that's probably not as big an issue as people make it out to be.

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lemmingsareawesome -4 points 20 days ago

not having to buy another thing is free though

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Strawberry 6 points 19 days ago

That's true, but your question is about buying another thing that's more privacy-respecting than the thing you already have, so I'm not sure what your point is.

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bjoern_tantau 9 points 20 days ago

You can root your Quest 1 or later and remove all the Meta stuff. Or you can disable wifi.

You will probably have to use pirated apps to keep them working.

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lemmingsareawesome 4 points 20 days ago

how do you pirate on quest and does rooting it cause any issues

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bjoern_tantau 4 points 20 days ago

I literally told you the potential issues. Search the internet, read and understand stuff, learn. This isn't something for a short comment on a low effort post.

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jumping_redditor 0 points 19 days ago

you can stream from a PC without pirating on a Quest

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RiQuY 8 points 20 days ago

Steam Frame.

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lemmingsareawesome 4 points 20 days ago

sounds cool wish i could afford it

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utopiah 6 points 18 days ago

You can now root all Meta glasses https://github.com/Lumince/singularity/releases/

You can also, without root, use Termux letting you install a local server on the device itself, use adb to start the browser on a WebXR page running on it, etc.

So it's possible to make it work and entirely offline, no Meta account, no app, all this without privacy concerns but that does require to tinker a bit.

I document this a bit on https://git.benetou.fr/... so feel free to ask more questions

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lemmingsareawesome 1 point 18 days ago

does it cause any preformance issues?

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utopiah 1 point 18 days ago

in itself no... but as you typically end up doing more stuff, have things in the background, etc probably a bit.

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Euphoma 2 points 19 days ago

buy a used windows mixed reality headset. people seemed to like the samsung odyssey+ on reddit 6 years ago

If you are on linux most of them don't have great support (refer to the linux vr adventures wiki)

or buy psvr2 which needs an adapter to work on pc

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Sapphy 2 points 18 days ago

Valve still collects data about you, so SteamVR isn’t truly private.

If privacy matters to you, look for a PC tethered headset that runs on open source software, so you can avoid telemetry and closed ecosystems

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AndyMFK 2 points 18 days ago

VR is expensive, you either pay with money, or pay with your private data (this is why meta vr is so cheap).

However, I like my HP reverb G2. You can pick these up second hand for basically nothing, under $200.

Microsoft ended support for windows mixed reality with windows 11, but there is a driver on steam that makes it work. Major downside is Linux support is not good. But if you're using windows, that would be my good cheap recommendation.

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SuspiciousCarrot78 1 point 15 days ago
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lemmingsareawesome 1 point 15 days ago

discontinued

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SuspiciousCarrot78 1 point 15 days ago
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lemmingsareawesome 1 point 15 days ago

oh i thought u meant the app

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lemmingsareawesome -6 points 20 days ago

why downvote

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TrollAccount69 5 points 20 days ago

I don’t vote but it’s an ambiguous title and post body that really seems low effort.

There’s forums where low effort is accepted but they seem to be the exception rather than the norm.

It could also be that everyone is on a witch hunt for ai agents and posing as a child is a great way to get away with doing agent shit.

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lemmingsareawesome -4 points 20 days ago

aw thought you didnt have to professional online thats dumb i dont want to write a 100 page essay of bloat i can say what im looking for in 2 sentences

it is what it is

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TrollAccount69 8 points 20 days ago

Our self perception can sometimes betray us.

I believe myself to be a kind and thoughtful person who earnestly tries to help others but it doesn’t always come across that way to them, especially in text.

I’m afraid you might be experiencing the same thing I do. While it’s incredibly clear to you what you’re asking about in the post titled simply “good vr?” with two short sentences for a body that give no indication what you’re actually asking or hoping to accomplish or under what constraints, it’s basically indecipherable to other people.

People reading what you write don’t know what you know, and can’t know unless you tell them. It can be a lot of work to do that, but people use that work to judge how serious you are about getting their help and for that reason you will get more and better quality help if you take the time to write out clearly what you want.

The people who have lots of experience will also be able to understand what you want and be able to use their experience to help you instead of just ignoring your incomprehensible requests.

A long time ago when irc was the norm for linux support chat there were very explicit rules about asking for help intended to curb people logging on and asking “it doesn’t work, what do!” At the time I struggled to adapt to the extremely formal constraints placed upon me when asking for help in that medium. Now, with the ability to analyze and describe problems myself I can quickly get assistance in that medium (and still do, I used irc help to resolve an issue last week) on the off chance that my problem solving skills don’t cut the mustard.

You are able to simply blast out quick posts but you may find that taking a little more time nets you better results :)

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Bugamn 4 points 20 days ago

I didn't vote, but what does this have to do with privacy? That's probably why people downvoted

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lemmingsareawesome 5 points 20 days ago

i thought it was implied that i was asking for privacy alternetives for meta quests since its in the privacy community

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