That’s so stupid.

downloads and runs entire Linux distro just to run a python script without managing dependencies

Jenkins

This is where I spat my tea: not because jenkins is super old but because I still have residual PTSD from using it.

My sympathies.

Yea but wheres the fun in that

As a Gentoo user, I can relate ;-)

You use both Guix and Nix on the same system?

can you teach me how to make a config file that only has lxqt? I tried the thing below replacing XFCE with LXQT and failed loads, I'm tired of wasting gigs and hours trying to make it work when I'm sleepy.

;; This is an operating system configuration generated
;; by the graphical installer.
;;
;; Once installation is complete, you can learn and modify
;; this file to tweak the system configuration, and pass it
;; to the 'guix system reconfigure' command to effect your
;; changes.


;; Indicate which modules to import to access the variables
;; used in this configuration.
(use-modules (gnu))
(use-service-modules cups desktop networking ssh xorg wm)

(operating-system
  (locale "en_GB.utf8")
  (timezone "America/place")
  (keyboard-layout (keyboard-layout "gb"))
  (host-name "pc")

  ;; The list of user accounts ('root' is implicit).
  (users (cons* (user-account
                  (name "name")
                  (comment "name")
                  (group "users")
                  (home-directory "/home/name")
                  (supplementary-groups '("wheel" "netdev" "audio" "video")))
                %base-user-accounts))

  ;; Packages installed system-wide.  Users can also install packages
  ;; under their own account: use 'guix search KEYWORD' to search
  ;; for packages and 'guix install PACKAGE' to install a package.
  (packages (append (list
                          (specification->package "xterm")) %base-packages))

  ;; Below is the list of system services.  To search for available
  ;; services, run 'guix system search KEYWORD' in a terminal.
  (services
   (append (list (service xfce-desktop-service-type) ;; I replaced this with  lxqt-desktop-service-type and it didn't "start" the DE properly when I logged in, I just got a blank screen, or worse, it failed to install properly with different "rest of the file"

                 ;; To configure OpenSSH, pass an 'openssh-configuration'
                 ;; record as a second argument to 'service' below.
                 (service openssh-service-type)
                 (set-xorg-configuration
                  (xorg-configuration (keyboard-layout keyboard-layout))))

           ;; This is the default list of services we
           ;; are appending to.
           %desktop-services))
  (bootloader (bootloader-configuration
                (bootloader grub-bootloader)
                (targets (list "/dev/vda"))
                (keyboard-layout keyboard-layout)))
  (swap-devices (list (swap-space
                        (target (uuid
                                 "666id")))))

  ;; The list of file systems that get "mounted".  The unique
  ;; file system identifiers there ("UUIDs") can be obtained
  ;; by running 'blkid' in a terminal.
  (file-systems (cons* (file-system
                         (mount-point "/")
                         (device (uuid
                                  "666id"
                                  'ext4))
                         (type "ext4")) %base-file-systems)))

This is just to run in a VM in Virtual Machine Manager

"DLL finder", holy shit I remember tools like that... God, now that I know how shared libraries work, that's kinda terrifying people just saw that error message and downloaded whatever the fuck they found whereever they found it...

Must be how some malware spread.

Patient: Doctor, it hurts when I move my arm this way.

Doctor: Well, don't move your arm that way then.

COM solved all this stuff over 30 years ago. When you're making breaking changes to an interface, you create a new one while still keeping the old one around (at least for a while). Both interfaces are shipped with the same DLL. Software written for the old interface continues to work, while newer software can take advantage of the extra features in the new interface.

You can do something kinda similar in Linux with sonames, like libfoo.so.1, libfoo.so.2, etc. but there's still a bunch of use cases where you need to use LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and they're entirely separate libraries vs the COM approach where both interfaces are in a single library.

Modern software keeps poorly reinventing the same concept. Software like Home Assistant has breaking changes between releases because they don't have a consistent interface.

Yeah, see, on Arch that just works

It is most commonly used to get an older archived program to load a newer library without recompiling the older program, so none of those objections apply, or are serious, because a dangling symlink (when the os moves to a newer library version) just keeps the one program from loading, reproducing (in a way) the error the symlink was introduced to fix.

The user can typically fix the same exact problem in that case. Honestly, those objections read like that meme, "No, not that way!"

“The problem with creating these links is that they aren’t managed in any meaningful way. If that library is removed, the link becomes broken. If the library is upgraded, it may encounter an error because of the link that it doesn’t expect to be there.”

If anyone is forwarding shit the way OP is, I'm pretty sure this is a "move the earth to hack this shit to work right now" action instead of "here are the foundations of my best practice based system"

I think they meant creating the symlink in a local directory and using LD_PRELOAD

We don't, blame Oracle it's their fault

Let's just say that Linux invites tinkering, and there are consequences. If you install a mainstream (fedora), reliable (fedora) distro, and just do normal stuff, it's unlikely you'll encounter more issues than Windows. Or even a tenth of the issues.

If it makes you feel any better, everytime I had to do this was because I was going out of my way to fix a linux game I compiled myself or some service I hacked together. I'm 99% sure you can have a hassle-free linux desktop experience if you follow the standard way your distro suggests of doing things. Have you tried testing the waters with a linux live usb stick yet?

I use Linux Mint since last June and I rarely have to troubleshoot my PC and when I have to, it's obviously my fault for messing around.

To flip that on it's head, if you do have computer issues, would you rather get help from someone who laughs at these silly memes or a huge ai powered bureaucracy that prioritises upselling and closing tickets?

Fedora, I think?

I have been using Linux for 15 years and have never had to do this. As long as you choose a mature, stable distro (not arch or the newest fad) you will have a much easier time.

Haha me neither... i have been daily driving linux 7 years now

I dont have this problem on Ubuntu somehow (yet?) Why does it happen to people?

Also happens on Arch.