otacon239 22 points 14 days ago

I’ve been writing a handover document literally for years at this point. It’s mostly just for my own reference, but the day the next guy takes my position, they will hopefully be grateful for the effort.

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Zachariah 7 points 14 days ago

DO NOT NEVER SWITCH OFF

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MangoCats 5 points 13 days ago

I've been writing handover documents for my own consumption for the last 12 years at this job. It's good practice for creating procedures for other people to follow when I don't want to do a job (like repeating the procedure 15 times and thoroughly documenting the results then getting a committee of six to sign off on it...)

It also helps when somebody asks me how to do something I haven't looked at in 5-10 years.

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eldavi 4 points 14 days ago

have you ever seen it play out like that? :p

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otacon239 9 points 13 days ago

Actually yes! I’m in an odd spot where I left for a couple years for another job and came back to the same company. Not only was the tech that was in my place while I was gone grateful, he actually continued to add to it so that when I came back, there wasn’t a whole lot I had to update!

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StabbingSky 5 points 13 days ago

I've been the recipient of such a document, and I was absolutely grateful. I've also been the recipient of absolutely no documentation. And I've written one and had it be appreciated when I laterally moved positions, which the 3 people who replaced me appreciated.

Depending on the enterprise environment and role, it can take up to 2 years to fully learn the system without such a document. Especially if it's an esoteric field.

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MangoCats 3 points 13 days ago

I’ve also been the recipient of absolutely no documentation.

Yeah, I took over for a guy who rage quit a year earlier, then his (hire the cheapest guy we can find) replacement basically didn't make any progress so they hired me. First question: where is this undocumented build server that took six years to build, physically? Answer: in this tower case here... Second question: when was it last backed up. Answer: ...turns pale and jogs over to IT.

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eldavi 2 points 13 days ago

i learned (2 decades+ later) that i was the cheapest guy they could find several times and my experiences taught me the hard way that the only way you can make progress is if you live/breath/eat/shit it as hardcore as you can working 60+ hours weeks during the honeymoon period or you too will be walking out the door.

we recently hired new grads and they don't exhibit this kind of asshattery like the new hires at the companies i worked for in the past did and i'm wondering if it representative of a labor aristocracy that's starting to struggle since my old companies were both faang and old-silicon while this new company is a non-profit that serves my local community.

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eldavi 2 points 13 days ago

i think i'm lucky in that my competencies are as generic as you can get -- python, bash, ansible, postgres on linux -- and is so accessible that there are plenty of resources to be found online to minimize that 2 years.

but apparently, not as lucky as you since i never received such a document and the surprise layoffs never allowed me to create such a document for anyone else -- i doubt that i even know how to make one since i've never seen one.

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eldavi 2 points 13 days ago

i envy you!

i've never gotten documentation that was helpful and -- in retrospect and just now -- i suspect that the line of predecessors rage quiting before my joining was the reason i got the job.

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thenextguy 18 points 14 days ago

So, switch it off then.

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shartgargle 12 points 14 days ago

Sometimes.

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Zachariah 6 points 14 days ago

NOT NEVER

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shartgargle 3 points 14 days ago

Not never, as a treat.

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MangoCats 1 point 13 days ago

If you never switch it off it will never get the reboot updates and maintenance cycles...

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lemonwood 9 points 14 days ago

Don't start unbelieving! Never don't not trust your feelings!

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Zensate 2 points 14 days ago

So keep it on?

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MangoCats 2 points 13 days ago

Except when you don't.

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Dirk 2 points 13 days ago

Just make sure it is not never!

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RichieRich 1 point 13 days ago

Now my brain hurts. 🤯

🤔 0 XOR !0=?

0 XNOR 0

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