The Blahaj Moderation Team is Not as Inclusive as They Claim to Be

7 days ago by Appie Elomekra to c/main

A lot of events have transpired on the matrix space. Plural beings, the unpronouned, and trauma suvivors have all felt unsafe in that space.

The mods are negligent and rarely interact with the community, and tend to mod and do desicions from "high seats" without context or discussion.

All descisions seem to also be hushy hush and made in secret

More details on Chattin', the main room of the matrix space. If our accounts get suspeneded, contact @reilyh:matrix.org


Please read our pronouns before addressing us

leigh 41 points 7 days ago

Counterpoint: The Blahaj moderation team is made up of volunteers doing their best to build a community that is shielded from a never-ending stream of [I so don't want to know]. Of course they aren't perfect but if yall are this unhappy with them and their work, yall might be happier on yall's own server that yall run independently while still interacting with whomever yall choose. Federation is great like that.

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Auster 32 points 7 days ago

Ideally, an accusation should be accompanied by proof in the same post, not just "now hunt it down". And if the accusation is true, sounds rather weird to make it on a platform from the same network as the Matrix group, and using an account from that same platform.

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elomekra -7 points 7 days ago

The proof is contained in screenshots, and this is more of a call to action for matrix users.

Yes baseless accusations are more of a "hmmm" than solid proof, but consider where the accusation is coming from?

It's coming from powerless users against powerful mods. As of now, our accounts are fine probably because the mods are away. Should we be able to post screenshots and proof, we will post under the fedi hashtag #blahaj.zone We'll need a masto account too.

A helpful reminder that we are disabled, so we can't spend too much energy to do all of this alone.

tl;dr this post is "look at the mods", have more eyes on them, see what has happened and/or what is going on

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GalacticSushi 25 points 7 days ago

What screenshots? Saying "trust us, we have proof in screenshots" without actually providing said screenshots is equivalent to saying "just trust us." I don't really understand why the screenshots can't just be posted here on this post. No offense, but I'm not gonna go hunting for hashtags on mastodon just to try to find any additional information related to this.

tl;dr this post is "look at the mods", have more eyes on them, see what has happened and/or what is going on

In my experience the mods of this instance are generally top notch. They make mistakes now and then like anyone else, but they're pretty reasonable and willing to reconsider their decisions when it makes sense. And I can't see what has happened or what is going on because this post is so vague and includes zero context.

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OwOarchist 18 points 7 days ago

The proof is contained in screenshots

What screenshots?

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CorrenteAlternata 15 points 7 days ago

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Delilah 12 points 7 days ago

Luckily there are platforms where you can post pictures and text at the same time.

So stop the "trust me bro" bullshit and post your proof.

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isleepinahammock 19 points 7 days ago
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prole 5 points 6 days ago

How does one determine the difference between people making legitimate claims like this about their identity, and people who are purposely trying to discredit the entire concept of alternate pronouns by making it seems silly or ridiculous?

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isleepinahammock 7 points 6 days ago

Poe's Law in action.

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ada 5 points 5 days ago

You don't. Because that's the goal of the bigots. You treat everyone as good faith until proven otherwise, and/or you simply don't interact with folk you're unsure about

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prole 2 points 5 days ago

I understand, and I agree.

I guess I'm just lamenting the fact that fascists have gotten so goddamn good at using our empathy as a weapon against us. Shit is so broken when the only options are: to do the very thing that they want, and in doing so, possibly actively hurting a marginalized person or group, or to just ignore them entirely even if they're actually acting in good faith (and maybe need someone to talk to).

Fucking sucks.

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fracture 2 points 4 days ago

in practice, it's not so hard. it looks just like respecting their identity, which they think is fallacious and worthy of ridicule, and that will usually be enough for them to crack after some time

fascists will be fascists, and they'll think being kind and respectful to a troll is funny, but there's not much else one can do about it. they were going to laugh anyways, so you may as well make the best of it

and sometimes, rarely, it can be what leads someone out of that mindset

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ScoffingLizard 1 point 6 days ago
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gandalf_der_12te 13 points 6 days ago

that's not at all my experience btw. the mods are 100% doing as well a job as anyone could. i'm thankful for what they're doing and especially jorunn is typically super explanatory for why she acted the way she does.

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Fiona 10 points 6 days ago

Someone feeling unsafe or uncomfortable is not sufficient evidence to claim that someone isn’t inclusive. For that you need to present concrete evidence of a consistent pattern of behaviors that are of some degree of seriousness.

And while I have minor criticism of the moderation (mostly w.r.t. some servers not being blocked, when they should be, though this seems more like an oversight than intention), I have always found Ada to be very responsive, fair, and understanding, when I sent her a DM about an issue.

Now, you are of course free to disagree and to dislike her moderation-policies, in which case you are free to change servers. This is fedi, so there is nothing stopping you from staying in contact with your friends or even hang out in Lemmy communities here. The primary reason to choose a Fedi server is the moderation team and if you don’t like it, that’s okay, choose another one.

That said, you give of the vibes of one of those extremely self-centered people that have been known to destroy progressive spaces by abusing progressive or therapy-language to make everyone miserable. I don’t know you well enough to want to judge you on that (because I try to make those decisions based on evidence, not based on feelings, as you want us to do in your criticism of the mods), but you may want to reflect on that…

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socsa 10 points 6 days ago

This is the "dragon fucker" drama all over again

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oftheair 2 points 6 days ago

The what?

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ruuster13 9 points 6 days ago
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leigh 2 points 6 days ago

While it's completely fair to criticize OP's accusations, let's please be careful to avoid anything that might be a personal (for lack of a better word Appie would be happy with) attack. Appie do still belong in the queer community, and the Blahaj mods invest a lot of effort into trying to help people learn and grow where others might just swing the banhammer and call it a day. 💖

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lulungomeena_burbclave 7 points 6 days ago

Gonna preface this by saying that we're plural and actually prefer being called y'all. We're from Texas and are blessed with a plural second person pronoun to use.

With that said.

We don't care if someone calls us "you." Because they're still talking to us after finding out we're plural. They're not freaking out and asking which one of us is the violent one or the real one. And they're not calling us "schitzo" or "faker" or any of other shit that systems, particularly endogenic systems such as we, get called. We're not being harassed or outed or doxxed, or told that we're ableist just for existing. We're getting called a non-derogatory pronoun that is consistent with what we are, even if it isn't what we prefer.

We're not demanding that interaction with us be contingent upon following a complex set of requirements.

Because it's usually easier to just block someone like that. Which means all someone with arcane dni requirements gets in their inbox is hostility from people who don't care about the novella-length manual.

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ScoffingLizard 2 points 6 days ago

So let me get this straight. The apparatus is a bot?

Bots prefer certain pronouns now? I just read a pronouns page and am not sure I know what I read. It's confusing.

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oftheair 2 points 6 days ago

The Apparatus is an Apparatus.

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elomekra -2 points 7 days ago

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GalacticSushi 21 points 6 days ago

WHAT ACCUSATIONS THOUGH??? Yall have yet to provide a single concrete example of whatever esoteric grievances have been leveled. Honestly what's been provided barely rises to the level of vague description.

Clearly yall are capable of posing images, such as the hypothetical screenshots that serve as "proof" to whatever yall are accusing the mod team of. If the aforementioned screenshots exist then just show them, otherwise just stop wasting people's time.

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leigh 7 points 7 days ago

Wow. 🙄

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