Why do I have to renounce my citizenship when I never announced it?

2 days ago by ki4jgt to c/asklemmy

I didn't subscribe to this place. Why must I unsubscribe?

disregardable 16 points 2 days ago

You inherited it by birth. It's more of an issue of, under international law, a country cannot make someone stateless. Everyone is entitled to a community and a place to live. When you're a brand new person, we need to establish where that place is. If you want to change it, it's on you to change it.

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UltraGiGaGigantic 5 points 2 days ago

Everyone is entitled to a community and a place to live.

Source?

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disregardable 8 points 2 days ago

https://www.unhcr.org/...

A Contracting State shall grant its nationality to a person born in its terri-
tory who would otherwise be stateless. Such nationality shall be granted:

(a) at birth, by operation of law, or

(b) upon an application being lodged with the appropriate authority, by
or on behalf of the person concerned, in the manner prescribed by the
national law. Subject to the provisions of paragraph 2 of this Article, no
such application may be rejected.

Currently 82 states are parties to the convention.

The United States refused to join the convention to maintain the right to voluntarily renounce citizenship when that voluntary renunciation makes a person stateless. The convention bans that practice, because being stateless seriously inhibits a person's ability to work, live, and travel in most countries.

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yermaw 8 points 2 days ago

You can just shout "I DECLARE STATELESSNESS" as youre boarding the plane/boat/train

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XiJinpingStanAccount 8 points 2 days ago

I mean technically you don't have to. If you don't ever plan to come back to the US and the country you are going to doesn't really care about US law you can just go and entirely ignore the fact your a US citizen for the rest of your life. Just don't go somewhere the IRS can try to extradite you from.

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lntl 6 points 2 days ago

Don't give em any ideas

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einkorn 8 points 2 days ago

Oh, "they" already have them. Be it MAGA in the US questioning citizenship by birth or here in Germany the AFD which plans to strip it from people they do not considere German enough.

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Malica 6 points 2 days ago

You gotta pay for it too

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degen 3 points 2 days ago

Careful now

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UltraGiGaGigantic 4 points 2 days ago

Because nation states are all about the nation state, not the people imprisoned within them.

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the_abecedarian 3 points 2 days ago

so you expect babies to be born stateless? do you think that would work out well for everyone?

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I_like_to_smell_it 0 points 2 days ago

...

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AzuraTheSpellkissed 3 points 2 days ago

Not even sure which place you're taking about or why you have to renounce citizenship.

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Tolookah 2 points 2 days ago

They might be trying to be one of those sovereign citizens.

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Dyskolos 1 point a day ago

If they don't tell which place, it's surely the dystopian joke USA ๐Ÿ˜

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