AI Startup Once Valued at a Billion Dollars Declares Bankruptcy

a day ago by Rimu to c/technology

Character.AI, the AI unicorn that faced several lawsuits over the deaths of minors as well as significant revenue struggles, is bankrupt.

Character.AI, the GenAI site that convinced some children to kill themselves, has gone bankrupt after parents sued them.

we found hordes of chatbots explicitly dedicated to themes of pedophilia, suicide, self-harm, and eating disorder coaching, as well as a thriving community of users creating chatbots designed to simulate school shootings, romanticize real mass shooters, and even impersonate the real child victims of mass shootings.

rimu 38 points a day ago

As well as harming it's users and then getting sued, the economics of it all just didn't add up.

https://www.404media.co/...

The company said that in 2024, the company spent $13.8 million per month on AI compute; in 2025, it spent $10 million per month on AI compute. The company’s subscription revenue peaked at $2.8 million per month, but at times was less than $1 million per month. Its revenue from all sources, including ads, has peaked at $5.3 million per month.

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tacosanonymous 27 points a day ago

It’s insane that losing a billion dollars didn’t matter to anyone, it was the lawsuits that did them in.

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matlag 13 points a day ago

If losing money mattered, they would all be under already.

Right now investors still hope that somewhat, all these companies will manage to break even and they can recover some of their losses.

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Pratai 4 points a day ago

A lot of them will be bringing in trillions once the “free-era” of AI usage is over and everyone is hooked and can’t function without it.

Then the monthly rates come in.

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Eheran 6 points 17 hours ago

Except that we can already run crazy good models locally with one good GPU and 64 GB RAM.

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ShadowRam 5 points 14 hours ago

Nah, once this all crashes, hardware will go back to being semi-normal. (along with new fabs going online), and we'll all be able to get hardware to run our models locally.

What they will be selling is the models. Just like software, we'll purchase a model outright, subscribe to an updating model, or we'll pirate a model, or there will be free open-source models.

The idea that we'd all intimately interact with a single centralized AI over the net was a stupid idea doomed to failure since the beginning.

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decolo 3 points 21 hours ago

That was the idea, anyway, there is no demand for most full price ai services

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bad1080 3 points 14 hours ago path: 0 26321742 26322081 26323164 26323644 26326777, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 2
tyler 2 points 21 hours ago

People literally will not be able to afford it. Neither will companies.

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impairedimperator 1 point 13 hours ago

Fun thing about investing is that it values hype as much as it values results. You don't need to believe in the product, you just need to believe that other people will invest money faster than the company loses money, and you'll come out ahead.

Good think American retirement accounts are legally required to invest in stuff.

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Drusas 4 points a day ago

*Its. But I know that autocorrect makes it hard to use because it's always incorrectly "correcting" it to "it's".

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rimu 4 points a day ago

Apostrophes are one of my weaknesses, for sure.

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tazeycrazy 2 points 19 hours ago

I'm not keen on paying for friends. I also like them fleshy and non digital.

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Octavio 20 points 21 hours ago

Another reminder that there's a difference between something being "valued at" a billion dollars and being "worth" a billion dollars.

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Airfried 14 points 20 hours ago

Yup. For example, billionaires are valued at a billion but they‘re worth jackshit.

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fyzzlefry 11 points 19 hours ago

They're worth about 10 feet of rope

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ulkesh 14 points a day ago

Has it started? Is the bubble bursting?

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addie 10 points 20 hours ago

OpenAI and Anthropic only have the revenue that they do because of all these 'startups' burning 10x in tokens what they actually bring in, and that revenue still sucks anyway. Each one that fails is another little trickle of water leaking through the dam; bubbles burst slowly, then all at once.

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toynbee 1 point 11 hours ago

I still don't know what tokens are in this context.

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ayyy 1 point 8 hours ago

These AI companies basically charge per letter/word that comes in and out of their machine. Many people conflate what the word means. Technically it’s a group of one or a few letters, which is how Large Language Models handle text.

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toynbee 1 point 5 hours ago

I see. Thank you.

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architect 1 point 12 hours ago

They are using local models for the most part, actually.

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Evotech 1 point 11 hours ago

Yeah. It’s just nvidia/hosting providers making bank on this stuff

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pageflight 1 point 9 hours ago

Now is a great time to convince our employers that integrating AI is going to go really poorly when the major companies finally go under.

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architect 1 point 12 hours ago

No these are mobile sex apps ffs (for the most part).

It’s just more banning of porn (erotica in this case).

They are using some of the worst things to get people to want to ban all of these apps I’m assuming.

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you_are_dust 4 points a day ago

Nice. This was a big one. I remember hearing about this one a lot. I was wondering why I stopped seeing ads for it.

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bad1080 3 points 14 hours ago

(Character.AI even sent us automated email notifications reminding us to keep chatting with school shooter bots.)

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resipsaloquitur 2 points 8 hours ago

Oh no how unfortunate.

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jaykrown 2 points 11 hours ago

This is another major realistic sign that the bubble is beginning to pop, especially after the OpenAI revenue forecast.

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VibeSurgeon 0 points 7 hours ago

I don't understand how anyone could say this knowing the facts about the current state of character.ai

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Pratai 2 points a day ago

I love that for them!!

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the_riviera_kid 0 points 11 hours ago

Hooray!

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