X will charge users ‘a small monthly payment’ to use its service

3 years ago by L4sBot to c/technology

X will charge users ‘a small monthly payment’ to use its service::X owner Elon Musk today floated the idea that the social network formerly known as Twitter may no longer be a free site. In a live-streamed conversation

impiri 231 points 3 years ago

I hope this is the one thing that he actually follows through on. Drive a stake through it already

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demonquark 66 points 3 years ago

I really hope so too. I’m tired of Musk.

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ButtholeSpiders 35 points 3 years ago

We all are. He sucks so much and looks like a dollar store Kathy Bates.

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SinningStromgald 10 points 3 years ago

I'm trying to figure out if that's more insulting to Kathy Bates or Dollar Stores.

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admin 8 points 3 years ago

I wish Lemmy had keyword filters.

Edit: hmmm... Maybe the slur filter will work. Let's try.

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HughJanus 9 points 3 years ago
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admin 1 point 3 years ago

True, but the clients are still in their infancy. Liftoff has no support for it as far as I know. Meanwhile, I have the luck of running my own instance, so if the filter fixes it, that would be great.

When I still used Twitter, I was very glad to be able to filter out Trump, otherwise I'd see half a dozen tweets about him per day. We're kinda heading there with removed on Lemmy now, and I really don't even want to spend the mental energy it takes to ignore it.

Edit: meh. Using the slur filter just replaces "removed" with "removed". Time to investigate some other clients I guess.

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iqwertyasdf 1 point 3 years ago

If you’re using Lemmy on iPhone, Memmy (application) provides this feature. It works pretty well

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Jackthelad 124 points 3 years ago

It probably won't, but it keeps Musk in the news.

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otter 23 points 3 years ago

So many articles about what he's pondering or what he might do

How about we read about it when something actually changes

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admin 6 points 3 years ago

I only suggest to do your part in down voting clickbait.

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hyperhopper 4 points 3 years ago

But people keep talking about it and upvoting it. Please just downvote the musk spam. This isn't even about Twitter/x, it's just musk rambling.

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jasondj 120 points 3 years ago

All the more reason to switch to Wayland.

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Blake 35 points 3 years ago

This is fucking hilarious, the fact that this is so upvoted really tells you how geeky Lemmy is though!

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Immersive_Matthew 7 points 3 years ago

What is wayland? How is it different than Mastodon if a Twitter replacement?

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filister 17 points 3 years ago

Both X11 and Wayland are competing display server protocols in the Linux ecosystem.

X11 is the old version that is now slowly abandoned in favour of Wayland, but still there are things like Nvidia with their proprietary drivers that run better under X11.

Hence the word play.

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Immersive_Matthew 0 points 3 years ago

How does wayland avoid X fees?

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Amir 9 points 3 years ago

There are no X11 fees, this is a joke about X=X11 and not X=Twitter

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oKtosiTe 3 points 3 years ago

Not at all. That’s the joke.

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grayman 7 points 3 years ago

I'd rather pay for X than drop driver support for my GPU!

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ram -3 points 3 years ago
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Unkend 2 points 3 years ago
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OhTheMoose 1 point 3 years ago

I am in need of an explanation, Captain.

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ram 1 point 3 years ago

My mistake, I figured it was easy enough to confuse X as in Twitter with X as in several dozen other tech and tech-adjacent projects.

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Unkend 0 points 3 years ago
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IchNichtenLichten 61 points 3 years ago

Can we just skip to the part where the servers get shut down? I'm so tired of hearing about this prick.

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magnor 20 points 3 years ago

Nah, let's skip to the part where Musk tries to move them using cheap labour and a screwdriver.

Wait ... we already had that.

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obinice 50 points 3 years ago

They will? Or they're considering it?

Two very very different things.

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Immersive_Matthew 1 point 3 years ago

Not if the goal is to make sure their brand and Elon is in your feed again today and top of your mind.

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iqwertyasdf 31 points 3 years ago

A service that I have to pay for AND it harvests and sells my personal data? SIGN ME UP!

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btaf45 6 points 3 years ago

If Musk wants me to use his shitty crap site, I will be charging him a small monthly fee.

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Rayuza 30 points 3 years ago

At this point i think hes just mad he had to buy twitter and is just destroying it now.

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Fhek 28 points 3 years ago

Yes please.

BURN IT DOWN !

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bob_wiley 28 points 3 years ago
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Ejh3k 4 points 3 years ago

Which search engine?

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bob_wiley 3 points 3 years ago
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Ejh3k 6 points 3 years ago

Why?

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bob_wiley 11 points 3 years ago
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HughJanus 24 points 3 years ago
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rockstarpirate 8 points 3 years ago

“It’s the only way I can think of to combat vast armies of bots,” explained Musk.

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HughJanus 2 points 3 years ago
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rockstarpirate 6 points 3 years ago

Yeah that’s true. The headline is asserting something that I don’t think Musk has actually said he will do. On the other hand, I’m having trouble thinking of any random idea Musk has had that he didn’t attempt to follow through on.

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WHYAREWEALLCAPS 1 point 3 years ago

Not if they're funded by deep pockets like with governments and corporations.

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AzureRT 23 points 3 years ago

Thanks Elon, you're gonna make it really easy for me to eventually move on

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MeanEYE 4 points 3 years ago

I did that last night. The place has turned into cesspool anyway. My account was there just to watch the shitstorm develop but sure as hell it's not that interesting for me to pay anything to him.

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BitsAndBites 22 points 3 years ago

Nail. Coffin. Good riddance.

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xc2215x 21 points 3 years ago

This will hurt the site so much. People will leave.

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sebinspace 24 points 3 years ago

Don’t interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake

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unagi 16 points 3 years ago

So great idea!

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LeaveITtoThePros 17 points 3 years ago

just die already! ;)

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ours 9 points 3 years ago

Elon is certainly working hard to kill it.

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erranto 16 points 3 years ago

I will believe it when I see it.

Let's not forget that more than half of its user base don't have access to online payment. so I don't know how they are planning on keeping them

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driving_crooner 4 points 3 years ago

If you can't pay you can watch some ads every time you login.

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erranto 4 points 3 years ago

How is that going to allegedly stop bots ? they can be made to load the ad and then keep browsing ... just another attempt at raising revenue

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xavier666 15 points 3 years ago

Blue tick users: We are already paying a fee

Elon: Yes, but what about a second fee? Premium tweets? Twitter awards?

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trachemys 10 points 3 years ago

I don’t think they’ve heard of second fee, Elon.

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tioute 14 points 3 years ago
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Mesaji 2 points 3 years ago
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Sir_Simon_Spamalot 1 point 3 years ago

Isn't Mastodon enough?

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Mesaji 1 point 3 years ago

Hard to get interaction.

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Sir_Simon_Spamalot 1 point 3 years ago

Even harder than this WireMin thing?

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Gazumi 12 points 3 years ago

Since I left Twit-X, I've been feeling no sense of loss. Perhaps, a little smug in fact.

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NRay7882 10 points 3 years ago

The only way to fight bots is to charge users a fee? Gee, I wonder how all of these other sites do it. 2-factor logins, manual auth prompts, rotating passwords on suspected accounts.... a real unsolvable problem for the stable tech genius, I see.

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ebits21 7 points 3 years ago

It’ll get rid of bots…. And most other users

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TheRaven 6 points 3 years ago

The idea isn’t to get rid of bots. It’s to make money off them.

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i2ndshenanigans 8 points 3 years ago

I’ve deleted my account way before Elon bought the company and haven’t been back since. When I was super active on Twitter which was many years ago and they said I had to pay a small fee every month I would have stopped using it right away. I don’t see the benefit of having social media and I sure as shit won’t pay for any of them. I’m in my 40’s so maybe it’s just me or my age but I can’t imagine anything on those platforms that would be worth a dollar a month.

Sounds like he’s trying to recoup lost revenue and I can’t imaging this is going to work out well for them.

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spacebirb 9 points 3 years ago

"Let's make the content creators pay to make their content for us" has been the dumbest trend in the past few years

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Appoxo 4 points 3 years ago

I use it to follow some art accounts but they usually also have a 2nd account somewhere else like DeviantArt or Pixiv.

Also the Progressbar account just tweeting how far along we are in the year.

Nothing of high value is lost.
No meaningfull comments were written like on Reddit, nobody uses it like imgur or gfycat so what purpose does it fill except doom scrolling?

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autotldr 8 points 3 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


X owner Elon Musk today floated the idea that the social network formerly known as Twitter may no longer be a free site.

In a live-streamed conversation with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Monday, Musk said the company was “moving to a small monthly payment” for the use of the X system.

But since Musk took over the platform last year, the company has been pushing its users to subscribe to its paid subscription product, X Premium (previously Twitter Blue).

X doesn’t disclose how many paid subscribers it has, but independent research indicates X Premium hasn’t attracted a majority of X users.

Platformer last year reported that Musk was weighing the idea of putting all of Twitter behind a paywall, in fact.

The larger conversation between Musk and Netanyahu today focused on AI technology and its regulation, though the topic of hate speech on X came up.


The original article contains 498 words, the summary contains 148 words. Saved 70%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

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zerbey 7 points 3 years ago

Right now it's an idea, but Musk's ideas tend to become reality more often than not. I already stopped Twitter, they do this I'll be gone for good.

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possiblylinux127 6 points 3 years ago

This is one of the least insain ideas and that's saying something

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funkless_eck 0 points 3 years ago

they need to do way instain with ceos> who kill thier own prodduct becuse the product cant frihgt back it was on the news this mroing a ceo in ca who kill his three prodduct. they are taking the three prodduct back to nationalization too ceo to rest my pary are with the end users who lost their social media; i am truley sorry for your lots

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Hype 1 point 3 years ago

What?

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funkless_eck 1 point 3 years ago

it's an old copypasta. 2007, so it even predates the Navy Seal pasta.

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rglullis 5 points 3 years ago

Look, we can hate Twitter and Musk all we want, but (a) the headline is absurdly false and (b) charging small amounts from every user instead of having an ad-funded business is probably the most honest and fair way to have a healthy internet and I for one would welcome the change. If Twitter becomes paid-only and removes all advertising and tracking (that's the the big if) it can find its way to become the only sustainable and (dare I say?) ethical social media network around.

I strongly believe that a lot of the decline in the quality of civic debate and the increasing polarization of our society is unhealthy and can be traced back to the point where online media started depending on "eyeballs" and advertisers. (Don't believe me? Just check the headline and read the article, now see how it outright LIED in the headline to make you click). Every news media channel became more and more tabloid-like in a desperate attempt to keep their viewership numbers, quantity over quality became the norm and everything became a "market audience" segmented to perform well to specific editorial guidelines.

To have meaningful change and actual progress, we need to have a healthy media that is focused on pursuing the truth. The current landscape is just a popularity contest. If people are able to vote with their wallets and if they become more than just a number , the people holding the megaphones will win more by paying attention to us than by treating us as cattle who can be milked out.

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lingh0e 20 points 3 years ago

charging small amounts from every user instead of having an ad-funded business is probably the most honest and fair way to have a healthy internet

I agree, but wouldn't you think it's far more likely that they would charge small amounts from every user AND have an ad-funded business?

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rglullis 4 points 3 years ago

This is why I am not holding my hopes up for Twitter, but I do believe that the Fediverse can work because we can have many different small service providers that would all compete for its customers, and not having ads would be definitely an advantage.

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ReveredOxygen 14 points 3 years ago

He still shows ads to Twitter blue subscribers, of course he would keep showing them to everyone if he charged them

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Blinx615 11 points 3 years ago

Lol but it will still be owned by Elon so I'm out. He draws the wrong crowd.

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Roundcat 5 points 3 years ago

And people will still insist on remaining there. I'm convinced Musk could shut down the site tomorrow, and people would continuously refresh until it somehow reappears.

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vector_zero 4 points 3 years ago

Very misleading title. Apparently floating an idea is now committing to implement a policy.

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Jimmycakes -11 points 3 years ago
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vector_zero 1 point 3 years ago

Lol, reality doesn't matter

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OsrsNeedsF2P -2 points 3 years ago

Musk living that rent free?

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malloc 3 points 3 years ago

Nobody saw this coming. Ever. Not even once. 🙄

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Cultural_Hope 3 points 3 years ago

Far easier than cleaning up your site and getting advertisers to come back. Lazy Elon.

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