fubo 60 points 3 years ago

For a little historical context:

IPv6 became a draft standard in 1998, and did not officially lose the "draft" status until 2017.
Hurricane Electric launched their well-known IPv6 tunnel service in 2001.
Google has published IPv6 adoption stats since 2008. These stats consistently show a greater fraction of users are on IPv6 on the weekend, because it's more common on mobile and home networks than office networks.

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TCB13 14 points 3 years ago

Unfortunately some ISPs are total garbage and don't support IPv6 in 2023. Eg. https://lemmy.world/comment/269250

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ghostermonster 1 point 3 years ago

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frozen 28 points 3 years ago

The solution to fix my development environment at my old job was disabling IPv6. Gives a good insight into the quality of the software...

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Crackhappy 1 point 3 years ago

IPv4 has been a standard for so long, and IPv6 is still actually kinda new. It's not that surprising.

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Dirk 23 points 3 years ago

Ah yes, the print server the whole company relies on.

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remram 17 points 3 years ago

For whatever reason, to this day I get a 403 error on http://google.com/ from IPv6. https://www.google.com/ works through.

Sometimes it's not your side that is broken.

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SteveTech 6 points 3 years ago

http://google.com/ works fine for me, tested in Firefox and with curl -6. So it could actually be your side that is broken, although it is probably your ISP's.

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remram 2 points 3 years ago

My side works fine, Google just doesn't like the address. It's a tunnelbroker address, maybe they consider that bots... but only for some of their servers? It's weird

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SteveTech 1 point 3 years ago

Oh okay, IMO IPv6 tunnels are worse than just disabling it, because it's basically just a proxy with IPv6, and since there's no encryption (at this layer) both your ISP and now the tunnel could collect your data, as well as added latency.

But I guess it's okay for experimentation or if you actually require IPv6 for something.

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remram 4 points 3 years ago

Hard disagree there. It is a tunnel, it is plenty fast if the intermediate node is close enough, and why would you want encryption at the IP layer.

It works great and gives me IPv6 that I otherwise wouldn't have with my ISP (Optimum), allowing me to connect to native IPv6 site and use all the IPv6 functionality I want (dedicated IPs for containers/VMs etc).

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darkfiremp3 4 points 3 years ago

http://ipv6.google.com is a thing! If it works for you, you have working ipv6, if it doesn’t, you don’t!

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remram 4 points 3 years ago

I have IPv6, Google just doesn't like my address.

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itsmikeyd 13 points 3 years ago

I have all sorts of weird troubles with IPv6 at home. Facebook won't load some content, Netflix will frequently buffer and fail to load, Steam will almost never download things quickly.

Turn off IPv6 on my router, all my troubles go away.

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gogozero 9 points 3 years ago

sounds like it may be a wonky dns server. if youre interested, try re-enabling ipv6 but use something like cloudflare's dns in lieu of your ISP's

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Bene7rddso 2 points 3 years ago

Either that or the ISP's IPV6 routing is broken

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apearson 12 points 3 years ago

Love the label 😂

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axtualdave 12 points 3 years ago

But ugh, ipv6 is haaarrrrd

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fluffman86 12 points 3 years ago

How hard would it have been to just add another octet or two? I like using my 10key and if I have to type letters for an IP address it's a bad system.

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apearson 12 points 3 years ago

You'd still need to update and replace every system a packet would touch. Why just add another 8 or 16 bits and make it where we'd have to go through this entire painful process again? IPv6's design was "we never want to do this again".

An example of this "we never want to do this again" is only 1/8 of the v6 address space is currently marked usable for allocation. We have 7 more chances to change allocation methods without having to update or change any system.

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Adama 8 points 3 years ago

Not to mention that we can “visualize” the segments and networks by the numbers. Makes it easier to recognize, as an analogy,

This state, that city, this road, that house.

Versus ipv6. Of course there’s so much space in v6 that it isn’t an issue except it’s such a pain to work with for people who tend to think in ipv4 octets and bit masks

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gredo 4 points 3 years ago

IPv6 is also built like that and IP4 never was globally (except the country/region part), but it could be continued to be that router in the building, that device that network card in the device and even give separate IPs per service and serve them all on the same port.

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barsoap 2 points 3 years ago

There's way more to ipv6 than additional octets. I don't run ipv6 on my wlan (pretty much only for my mobile phone) because I can't be arsed to wrap my head around ipv6 autoconfig and NAT (or rather not NAT) whereas setting up dhcp is a breeze.

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bfg9k 5 points 3 years ago

It really isn't, but vendors often make the IPv6 config optional and often don't have an auto-config wizard for IPv6 like they often do for IPv4.

Take Ubiquiti EdgeOS, setting up a PPPoE with IPv4 has a dedicated GUI wizard that shows up when you first log on, but IPv6 config is all confusing CLI commands.

IPv6 is haaarrrrrd because vendors are lazy.

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i_am_hiding 5 points 3 years ago

Unless I'm mistaken, it's also impossible for many - myself included. My ISP doesn't provide me with a public facing IPv6 address.

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theory 10 points 3 years ago

Accurate label

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normonator 7 points 3 years ago