darcy 46 points 3 years ago

sigma vim user

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mutter9355 13 points 3 years ago

Omega neovim user

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darcy 10 points 3 years ago

gigachad ed user

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Chunk 17 points 3 years ago

Ed is king. Every single time I have to work on a severely resource constrained system I always use Ed.

That's literally never happened to me but that won't stop me from saying it.

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mutter9355 6 points 3 years ago

I mean, I don't know how severly resource constrained a system has to be to not even be able to run vi.

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amycatgirl 9 points 3 years ago

enlightened echo user

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Chunk 4 points 3 years ago

Except I'm too dumb to use even the neovim plugin manager let alone configure the thing. I have to copy existing configs like a noob :(

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mutter9355 3 points 3 years ago

Isn't copying from others how everyone does (neo)vim? Besides, I'm even "worse" and just use lazyvim.

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MsPenguinette 45 points 3 years ago

My serial killer trait is that I use vi instead of vim cause I'm too lazy to type the extra character. Tho if for some reason, vi tab completed to vim, I'd probably use vim

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donnachaidh 68 points 3 years ago

alias v=vim. There, just saved you two keystrokes.

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MsPenguinette 17 points 3 years ago

{vi} = 2 {vim} = 3 {v=vim} = 5

I'd need to run vi at least 5 times to have a net gain in saving keystrokes. I'm typically in effemerial systems created by the users of our env, so rarely am I going to gain those strokes back

But also, why am I trying to apply logic to this? I'll often cat a file before editing it. This shit is just illogical idiosyncrasies I've picked up over the years. I'm probably creating posthoc justifications for insane things I do cause it's hard to override muscle memory

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emptiestplace 8 points 3 years ago

effemerial is new to me

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MsPenguinette 2 points 3 years ago

Here's a link I found that might be good if you are interested in more:

https://cloudnativenow.com/...

https://guymorton.medium.com/...

There are different levels of effemeriality. The simplest example I use daily would be an autoscaling group in AWS. Especially if you use Spot Instances to save money, thi gs may scale in and out whenever.

So if a development team creates a new autoscaling group and I need to get into an instance to test something, unless I add stuff to their IaC, I'm stuck with their configuration. I need to assume that every time I ssh into one of those instances, it's a brand new instance. But it'd be a big challenge for me to go to their repo and make a PR to alias a command whenever an instance in that resource is created

Stuff can be even more temporary if it's something like an ECS task which creates a container with a read only filesystem only when a task is needed to be done. But I don't want to get too deep in the weeds (or deeper than I already have)

terraform workspace will at least stick around for a while so you might be in and out of the same system multiple times.

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Spider89 17 points 3 years ago

I use nano.

Nano >> vi/vim, emacs

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mosiacmango 12 points 3 years ago

4 letters < 2 letters.

vi forever.

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Spider89 4 points 3 years ago

Simplicity > Complexity

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Prunebutt 14 points 3 years ago

Not if you need any work done.

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BeigeAgenda 0 points 3 years ago

Nano is the best when you just need an editor, you can as well use an IDE instead of vi(m) or Emacs.

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brodoshmodo 8 points 3 years ago

Ok but why use nano when micro literally exists

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LinuxSBC 15 points 3 years ago

Alias?

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ekky43 18 points 3 years ago

Aliases are just bloat! You can do just fine without them. Heck, why not remove the ASCII conversion and read everything in hex or binary?

It's all about SPEED and efficiency here!

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MsPenguinette 2 points 3 years ago

I'm in DevOps so I'm in a lot of effemerial systems so in practice, I will run into systems where profile hasn't been set up. Tho I do like the idea of making sure all systems properly have that aliased cause it'd be serial killer vibes to spend hours of time to make sure that I can save a keystroke.

Tho it'd never make it through PR. Also, wild require explaining to my coworkers that I do this

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expr 11 points 3 years ago

Most all distros alias vi to vim already, so it makes no difference.

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Chunk 8 points 3 years ago

You use vi because you are lazy.

I used vi because I am too stupid to close it.

We are not the same.

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MsPenguinette 1 point 3 years ago

I'll have to check tomarrow if RHEL and UBI do this.

Did some quick googling and looks like cent has that alias by default but doesn't do it when root. Which would explain why I do get inconsistent results with vi. I never thought about it in detail besides just knowing that there are some visual changes. Thanks for the info, I'll be noticing this now that I know!

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netchami 4 points 3 years ago

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puppy 1 point 3 years ago

You are missing out! I used to only use vim to edit config files. So I knew my way around (albeit, slowly). I installed the IdeaVim plugin a week ago and learned some new key bindings I wasn't using. A week in I'm almost faster than before! And it's only going to get better after I've acquired muscle memory (I'm nearly there.) and move on to complex key bindings/sequences. Then it will probably be as if the cursor is directly connected to my mind. I'm hopeful because I've seen a mentor of mine do it.

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FiskFisk33 1 point 3 years ago

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netchami 0 points 3 years ago

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puppy 2 points 3 years ago

I don't think you understood what I said. I started using vim key bindings ALSO in my IDE and my speed improved because of it. I didn't ask you to stop using vi. I merely suggested that you used MORE of it. If your Emacs setup already use vim keybindings that's exactly what I'm doing too.

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MsPenguinette 1 point 3 years ago

I do most of my programming in vscode but when I need a cli editor, I use vi

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TheSlad 35 points 3 years ago

Meanwhile webstorm/intelliJ users:

signature look of superiority

empty wallet

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seth 3 points 3 years ago

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jelloeater85 2 points 3 years ago

Nope 😉

https://www.jetbrains.com/...

Plus their Java and Python IDEs have free community versions as well.

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cyborganism 23 points 3 years ago

Emacs sucks. Vim is so much better. And vscode is okay.

Go ahead. Down vote me. I don't care. This isn't Reddit lol.

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crandel 7 points 3 years ago

Vim sucks, Emacs is the best editor in the world

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cyborganism 1 point 3 years ago

Nuh uh!!!! Vim is better! So much better!!!! Emacs sucks balls!

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Vorticity 5 points 3 years ago

I use vscode with vim key bindings. It's amazing!

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curiousaur 2 points 3 years ago

You haven't switched to cursor yet?

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KSPAtlas 2 points 3 years ago

I use both emacs and vim, each have their own use cases

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AVincentInSpace 1 point 3 years ago

This isn't Reddit lol.

Genuinely curious what you think the difference is

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histic 1 point 3 years ago

stock emacs sucks, doom emacs ftw

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jack -1 points 3 years ago

Vim is a pain to configure

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TheSecurityNinja 21 points 3 years ago

VS code is pretty amazing though

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narc0tic_bird 16 points 3 years ago

You guys recommend VSCodium over VSCode. Is there a working sync solution similar to the one built into VSCode where you can sync all settings and extensions between machines?

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QuazarOmega 17 points 3 years ago

Yes! It's this one https://open-vsx.org/... I really like it for using a normal repository over a "gist" and so you can also use any git server provider, I think the developer is also a contributor of VSCodium itself

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bloopernova 15 points 3 years ago

I generally code in VSCode, and manage org-roam notes and information in Emacs. Works well enough for me.

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netchami 7 points 3 years ago

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bloopernova 2 points 3 years ago

I guess I just preferred VSCode for coding? Every time I've tried to use Emacs for my coding workflows I've given up, I think I'm just used to VSCode in that respect. It is weird, I know.

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mykneedoesnthurt 5 points 3 years ago

What's a plugin? What's VSCode?

DBase IV does not need any of this.

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Zuberi 1 point 3 years ago

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