I hate how much culture is controled by shitty people

3 years ago by Jake Farm to c/workreform

snuff_cargot 70 points 3 years ago
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unfreeradical 6 points 3 years ago

Also, if everyone is not working constantly, then we will all starve...

...because of, well, because of... scarcity!

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pdxfed 4 points 3 years ago

I read Flying Blind and am sorry for what must have been a long, painful, soul-crushing journey for you folks.

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unfreeradical 50 points 3 years ago

I think when one small group holds power, the effects for everyone else are usually shitty.

The issue may be more related to power itself, rather than to those who hold it.

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Viking_Hippie 26 points 3 years ago

True, except a system that explicitly rewards negative character traits such as greed, ruthlessness, and selfish opportunism will inevitably lead to inherently shitty people gaining and retaining power.

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unfreeradical -6 points 3 years ago

How would you explain, as an example, a system in which certain individuals would acquire and would hold power, other than by presenting the negative traits such as the ones you mention?

The motive of my comment was to prompt critical reflection on the more basic essence of power, not just particular expressions of power.

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Viking_Hippie 13 points 3 years ago

That's a disingenuous way to frame it.

Under almost any system, those traits are somewhat advantageous when it comes to power, but few if any countries reward them as thoroughly or do as little to rein them in as the US.

Very few if any other democracies have systems written by and for the already rich and powerful to anywhere near the degree of the US.

None other that I have heard of explicitly allows bribery by law (as long as you're not stupid enough to say "I'm bribing you right now to do this specific thing"), even going so far as considering it a necessity to gain and retain public office.

CERTAINLY not while loudly pretending to be one of the least corrupt and most democratic countries in the world. Even going so far as to claim absolute social mobility when there's almost none for those at the bottom.

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unfreeradical -4 points 3 years ago

That’s a disingenuous way to frame it.

Regardless of your position, the question I asked seems entirely natural and fitting, and also straightforward, given the preceding context.

Your response reveals you have innaccurately extrapolated one particular motive for the question.

You have hinted toward a favorable solution to an agreed problem, yet you now antagonize someone, and return an evasion, simply for suggesting politely that you might elucidate your own position.

There remains an unresolved tension in your argumentation thus far.

You have agreed that problems for those who are disempowered are exacerbated by the conditions of one small group holding power.

Yet, you have also tacitly defended, as the form of system you most prefer, a system in which one small group holds power.

More, you have avoided offering any conception of how power itself may be reproduced by activity you regard as favorable.

Under almost any system , those traits are somewhat advantageous when it comes to power

I agree.

For such reasons, as well as others, I would defend the assertion that problems for those who are disempowered are exacerbated by the conditions of one small group holding power.

Very few if any other democracies...

...when there’s almost none for those at the bottom.

I can reach no understanding of how any of it is related to assuaging problems that have been exacerbated by conditions of one small group holding power.

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DoucheBagMcSwag 31 points 3 years ago

cries in Titan A.E.

If only the studio didn’t meddle with the project and watered it down from a pg-13 rating

In the end, it was a movie for no one

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FlyingSquid 10 points 3 years ago

I really enjoyed it as it was. It's too bad it couldn't have been better, but I still liked it a lot.

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Zahille7 8 points 3 years ago

You take that last sentence back. I love that movie, cheesy music and all.

I am a Cosmic Castaway!

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DoucheBagMcSwag 4 points 3 years ago

Oh I love it…I was talking about the mainstream audience

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Jake_Farm 5 points 3 years ago

I loved that movie! It represented what American animation could be if they took their heads out of their asses.

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De_Narm 31 points 3 years ago

While I love Atlantis and Treasure Planet, they also flopped massively. The thing about unions is a valid point and does suck a lot, but sadly I don't think Disney would have made another film like these anyways.

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randallchua 22 points 3 years ago

Take this with a grain of salt because my memory is fuzzy and I just read it in a comment somewhere.

The reason Treasure Plant flopped was because Disney wanted it to fail to use it as an excuse to shift to 3D. They barely marketed the film and released it in November, which meant it would be competing with the Christmas films. And when the movie had won an award, no one was there to receive it cause they weren't expecting it to win anything.

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De_Narm 11 points 3 years ago

The movie actually used a lot of 3D animation in combination with its traditional 2D animation. I don't think they made a movie fail intentionally to excuse a shift to the very technology said movie employed a lot more than their prior ones. If anything, the knowledge gained during the production helped them for sure.

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RogueBanana 16 points 3 years ago

Damn what are these from? I don't recognize any of these frames but it looks pretty cool

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Clasm 47 points 3 years ago

Top is Treasure Planet Bottom Left is Prince of Egypt Bottom right is Atlantis

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keefshape 11 points 3 years ago

Treasure Planet. Great movie, highly recommended.

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starman2112 6 points 3 years ago

+1 for Treasure Planet, best Disney movie by far and away

Also shout out to Prince of Egypt because I'm pretty sure it's made me question my sexuality more than any other animated media

Looking at it now, the characters aren't really hot, but when I was younger I thought Moses was fine af

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keefshape 2 points 3 years ago

Right? Egyptian gender confusion boiled right down.

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snuff_cargot 0 points 3 years ago
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LemmyIsFantastic 0 points 3 years ago
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salton -3 points 3 years ago
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A place to discuss positive changes that can make work more equitable, and to vent about current practices. We are NOT against work; we just want the fruits of our labor to be recognized better.

Our Philosophies:

  • All workers must be paid a living wage for their labor.
  • Income inequality is the main cause of lower living standards.
  • Workers must join together and fight back for what is rightfully theirs.
  • We must not be divided and conquered. Workers gain the most when they focus on unifying issues.

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  • Higher wages for underpaid workers.
  • Better worker representation, including but not limited to unions.
  • Better and fewer working hours.
  • Stimulating a massive wave of worker organizing in the United States and beyond.
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