The NRA is slowly dying

3 years ago by stopthatgirl7 to c/politics

Membership is declining at the gun right's group as it also faces financial difficulties. Critics say the future looks bleak.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble 212 points 3 years ago

Good. The modern NRA has been the worst thing for guns rights in years. Wayne LaPierre can rot in hell.

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Cylusthevirus 79 points 3 years ago

It'd be one thing if they were only opposed by people for more gun control, but they aren't even really good at their core mission. All they do is simp for the GOP, even when doing so runs counter to their stated agenda.

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TransplantedSconie 88 points 3 years ago

all they do is simp launder money to the GOP for the Russians.

Fixed it for ya.

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Cylusthevirus 10 points 3 years ago

JFC, really? I'm not up on the latest NRA lore but that sounds too bad to be true.

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dhork 68 points 3 years ago

https://www.bbc.com/...

This article is a bit old, after it was written Butina went back to Russia and is now a member of theit legislature.

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fuckwit_mcbumcrumble 45 points 3 years ago

The NRA is a marketing team for gun manufacturers, and what sells guns is fear of gun bans. The NRA does everything in their power to fuel those fears.

Pro and anti gun alike hate them. It's mostly just boomers keeping them going.

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Rivalarrival 31 points 3 years ago

They aren't a gun rights organization. They aren't even a manufacturer's organization. They are Republican shills, first, last, and always.

I was finally convinced they had abandoned gun owners when they endorsed Mitt Romney in 2012. When a gun rights organization openly endorses the signer of a gun ban, there is something deeply wrong.

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Semi-Hemi-Demigod 1 point 3 years ago

Did they endorse Reagan, too? He signed a gun ban.

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Maeve 6 points 3 years ago

That sudden ray of light is Huey P smiling.

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rayyy 1 point 3 years ago

Exactly. I belonged to the NRA way back when they were a safety and information organization. They began to sell high priced commemorative hunting guns, then commemorative military guns. Soon they started selling military style guns like the M1 Garand rifle and the M1 carbine. I quit. Their push continued into modern M16s while simultaneously pushing scare articles to convince people of dangers so great that they would need buy military style weapons. The NRA degenerated into a money and greed operation that became the opposite of its origins intent.

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FlyingSquid 18 points 3 years ago

They've even wormed their way into schools. They have "Eddie the Eagle" that teaches elementary school kids gun safety. With NRA logos all over the place, of course. I was disgusted when my daughter brought the information home.

Absolutely kids should be taught gun safety. They just shouldn't get it with a heaping helping of NRA.

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skeeter_dave 16 points 3 years ago

Gun safety was one of their original missions and where quite successful at it before they turned into a fear mongering lobbying group.

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FlyingSquid 3 points 3 years ago

Someone else needs to do it now. But I'm guessing the NRA gives school systems plenty of money to use their program.

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Blackmist 2 points 3 years ago

Eddie the Eagle

There can be only one.

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chaogomu 5 points 3 years ago

I'd say it started with Harlan Carter. He was the one who decided that the NRA should be all about the profits of gun manufacturers, and not about safe and sane gun culture.

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banneryear1868 -2 points 3 years ago

Gun culture is just a different and insane thing in the US. We have a bit of it in Canada and gun issues in the cities, but guns are highly regulated here, maybe too much in some specific aspects. I'm in favor of less restrictions for historical pieces similar to historical cars where you can apply for that status.

Where I'm from lots of people have guns but there's not really a gun culture, they're basically used for animal defense. Last incident I know of was a deliriously sick coyote getting in to a horse paddock in daylight.

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atzanteol 3 points 3 years ago

The NRA changed American thinking from "guns are tools that we sometimes need for protection" to "GUNS ARE THE ONLY THING PROTECTING YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR FREEDOM!!!1!!!".

They can rot in hell.

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banneryear1868 0 points 3 years ago

You just know there's so many Americans with guns who can't wait to kill someone for the right reason in the most violent way, it's like their fantasy.

I was listening to an American at a work outing once who got inspected at the Canadian border, and she was ranting about how they thought she had a gun and were checking everywhere. I'm sympathizing cause that sucks, then she's like "but they never checked my purse where I kept my gun!" and it's like fuck sakes woman, you certainly made your point...

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spaceghoti 128 points 3 years ago

It can't die fast enough.

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Kalkaline 35 points 3 years ago

If only there were a quick and effective means of killing something.

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NuXCOM_90Percent 45 points 3 years ago

Sadly, those are only to be used on kindergartners.

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gramathy 16 points 3 years ago

If conservatives were susceptible to irony they’d have all been gunned down by now

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Ranvier 67 points 3 years ago

Hmmm, did the spigot of Russian money flowing into their coffers dry up?

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ArbiterXero 46 points 3 years ago

That’s the real answer. “We’re no longer a foreign asset funnelling Russian money to republicans so we’re broke”

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deft 13 points 3 years ago

Yep if you look at all stuff across the world, the dirty money is drying up. The game is catching up

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winterayars 7 points 3 years ago

I guess that whole war with Ukraine thing has some side effects!

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TheBat 3 points 3 years ago
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June 64 points 3 years ago

Can I help? How can I help speed this up?

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RememberTheApollo_ 47 points 3 years ago

But the damage it has done to the political landscape by pushing right wing agendas, fearmongering of every sort to get people to buy guns, and tying identity to gun ownership will live on far beyond the useful life of the NRA.

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PoliticalAgitator 6 points 3 years ago

The organization may be dead but the propaganda they created lives on in the heart of every gun owner.

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Viking_Hippie 44 points 3 years ago

Good news: NRA (maybe, hopefully) dying.

Absolutely horrible news: The void being filled by even more extreme and harmful groups within the same overall ideology, Islamic State style.

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FlyingSquid 20 points 3 years ago

A dozen other groups have far less power than one huge lobbying organization.

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Viking_Hippie 7 points 3 years ago

Not when they're working together and have taken over most of the billionaire donors

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nilloc 2 points 3 years ago

And many of the dozen groups are run by the same family of douchbags. The Dorr brothers.

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nilloc 2 points 3 years ago

Yeah the No Compromise podcast is a really good primer for what the NRA is done.

Scary listen, especially with the new speaker of the house’s religious statements.

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Octavio 39 points 3 years ago
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RizzRustbolt 10 points 3 years ago

Do something to put it out of its misery, perhaps?

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Jerkface 38 points 3 years ago

Maybe it should hurry the fuck up.

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UnspecificGravity 37 points 3 years ago

Good, even if you are supportive of gun rights there has to be a better option than contributing to a Russian fascist propaganda outlet.

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Treczoks 27 points 3 years ago

The lack of Russian money probably helped here, too. Good riddance.

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PeleSpirit 25 points 3 years ago
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Ranvier 43 points 3 years ago

They've repeatedly attempted to disband and then reform in Texas to avoid New York's lawsuit against them for all the fraud, misuse of donor funds, and other such law breaking. Judges have repeatedly quashed their attempts, as well as multiple other counter suits and appeals trying to get the case dismissed. Lawsuit is still ongoing. Latest update I could find from NY attorney general's office was here:

https://ag.ny.gov/...

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PeleSpirit 27 points 3 years ago
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Jaysyn 19 points 3 years ago

One of her in every state would go a long way to kicking #GOP #fascism to the curb.

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eran_morad 25 points 3 years ago
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CDenno 20 points 3 years ago

... and nothing of value was lost.

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Diplomjodler 19 points 3 years ago

I'm sure Daddy Putin will have a replacement ready in no time.

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Pratai 16 points 3 years ago
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kaffiene 14 points 3 years ago

If ever an organisation needed a bullet...

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LEDZeppelin 14 points 3 years ago

Too slowly, unfortunately

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GBU_28 12 points 3 years ago

Meh. The "gun groups" of the future are discord servers about 3d printing

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killeronthecorner 19 points 3 years ago

That doesn't sound like an organized group with lobbying and government presence. I'm fine with that.

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Semi-Hemi-Demigod 3 points 3 years ago

If they start going after 3D printers I might join them. I've got an unregistered gun maker sitting in the corner of my office, even though I mostly use it for printing figurines.

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trash80 2 points 3 years ago
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Clbull 9 points 3 years ago

The NRA had lost a lot of financial backing because when the main thing you endorse is being used to murder schoolchildren on a borderline industrial scale, of course sponsors and advertisers will want nothing to do with it.

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Jimmyeatsausage 9 points 3 years ago

They also got busted for money laundering and being a front for foreign oligarchs to fund US politicians... I'm guessing all those rubles drying up hits the bittom line, too.

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Behole 7 points 3 years ago

Oh shit! I saw the gold and purple and the old white man and misread the title as NBA! How did I not see the guns?!

Also fuck the NRA for fucking ever! I wish we could start prying some guns from some of those cold dead hands already. Die.

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ripcord 7 points 3 years ago

Why did you put an apostrophe in rights

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stopthatgirl7 11 points 3 years ago

Ask the writer, since the blurb was auto-pulled from it.

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osarusan 6 points 3 years ago

Because they are the gun right. You know, like alt-right, Christian right, gun right.

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JeeBaiChow 7 points 3 years ago

Pity the number of victims of gun violence continues to rise, rather quickly.

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KingJalopy 5 points 3 years ago

I'm critical of the nra and I didn't think that's bleak, it's fucking awesome

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autotldr 4 points 3 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


From 2003 to 2013, the organization scored 230 legislative victories, according to an Insider tally from the time, including passing six state laws that forbid municipalities from limiting gun rights.

Since then its membership has declined to 4.3 million, CEO and executive vice president LaPierre revealed in a January board meeting, according to a report by The Trace, a nonprofit covering gun violence.

Since 2020, it has faced an ongoing lawsuit from New York Attorney General Letitia James, which alleges that its top officials, including LaPierre himself, diverted donations for their personal use, violating numerous state and federal laws, and even the NRA's own bylaws and policies.

James alleged that the funds were used for family trips to the Bahamas and private jets, which contributed to a $64 million reduction in the balance sheet in three years, turning a surplus into a deficit.

"The NRA's influence has been so powerful that the organization went unchecked for decades while top executives funneled millions into their own pockets," James said at a press conference at the time.

Forty-five percent of U.S. households owned at least one firearm in 2022, according to research compiled by Statista, the highest figure since 2011—and 8 percentage points higher than in 2013, the year LaPierre said the NRA was on track for "unprecedented" growth.


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BigMacHole 4 points 3 years ago

Democrats going after people stealing MY MONEY is COMMUNISM!

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ArugulaZ 3 points 3 years ago

I've heard this one before. As long as the GOP can keep using them as a wedge issue, they'll never die. Maybe just mutate into something even worse.

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Maeve 3 points 3 years ago

Good!

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0x520 2 points 3 years ago
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potterpockets 1 point 3 years ago
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HurlingDurling 1 point 3 years ago

Not slowly enough

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TSG_Asmodeus 0 points 3 years ago

🎶 They ain't gonna jump no more 🎶

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Amends1782 -4 points 3 years ago

I feel like one of the 7 pro gun people on all of Lemmy, I'd like to share some perspective about the NRA being a boogieman. They absolutely are not the boogiman that leftists and anti gunners think they are. They are a ridiculously bloated, corrupt, beuracracy, no different than our federal government. They are all optics. In fact I'd say their only job is to be the boogieman and absorb negative attention, to allow the real gun rights groups to get some work done.

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ilinamorato 5 points 3 years ago

They keep a public list of approved politicians and downgrade anyone who even mentions gun reform. That feels like more than just a bureaucracy; since they're largely funded by weapons manufacturers, it seems more like an extremely influential lobby. And since what they're lobbying for is "keep pretending that there's no way to solve the deadly problem that kills more humans than any other thing you don't do to yourself and literally every other developed nation has solved," it seems like their job is to enforce the prioritization of gun manufacturers' profits over lives.

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