Twitter locked behind login page.

3 years ago by rooster_butt to c/technology

So today I clicked a twitter link because companies like to use it for official announcements, only to be greeted with a login page. Was annoyed then I remembered nitter exists. It just prompted me to install Privacy Redirect which I should have done ages ago.

Github: https://github.com/SimonBrazell/privacy-redirect

Chrome Web Store: https://chrome.google.com/...

Firefox Browser Add-ons: https://addons.mozilla.org/...

Looks like twitter waited for the reddit API changes to do push this change to try to do it under the radar.

sven 104 points 3 years ago

This is pretty terrible really. Governments, cities, states use twitter for alerts and news. Now I have to agree to be tracked and monetized to view information from my government. I think everyone needs to write to all your cities, states, schools, law enforcement etc and demand they stop using twitter for anything. Our taxes should not go to padding twitter's wallets.

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zeppo 46 points 3 years ago

Now that Twitter has become what it is, I'm somewhat offended that my local government makes announcements on it. Hopefully this will be an impetus for them to stop... although many agencies use Facebook too, and FB and IG have been this way for years.

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tvbusy 36 points 3 years ago

Lemmy is exactly what government bodies need. Anyone from other instances can see, vote and comment. They can limit sign up to only employees and their users immediately have an official seal of authenticity. @obama@whitehouse.gov would be so cool.

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influence1123 24 points 3 years ago

I think Mastadon might be better for that.

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tryagain 1 point 3 years ago

Either, or both. The Fediverse is the way forward for government announcements.

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tryagain 1 point 3 years ago

Either, or both. The Fediverse is the way forward for government announcements.

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tryagain 1 point 3 years ago

Either, or both. The Fediverse is the way forward for government announcements.

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tryagain 1 point 3 years ago

Either, or both. The Fediverse is the way forward for government announcements.

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tryagain 1 point 3 years ago

Either, or both. The Fediverse is the way forward for government announcements.

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zeppo 21 points 3 years ago

They absolutely should be setting up lemmy or mastodon as official announcement sites. That would be a perfect platform.
I think they also want to be on twitter, fb etc for the distribution potential though.

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cupcakezealot 1 point 3 years ago

I would prefer @potus@44.whitehouse.gov so that it makes it easier to defederate from extreme right wing presidents if, god forbid, they get in power again.

Also for archival purposes.

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Godnroc 24 points 3 years ago

I've worked in local level government communication. Most of the time your just trying to hit as many places as possible in a hopeless effort to keep an interested public informed. The price is usually low, the audience is there, and information can be duplicated to other platforms easily, so it generally makes sense to use social media.

That said, low engagement on a platform would be a great reason to consider cutting it out. A citizen with feedback is enough to spark the flame too.

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paddirn 18 points 3 years ago

As much as I hate the idea of Yet Another Social Media App, I kind of wish there was some sort of official government-specific platform that was only available to state/local/federal government(s) or organizations for making important announcements. No memberships required (other than posters or commenters), no likes, upvotes, or retweeting or whatever, just postings of information that people can get to from anywhere. Something completely untied from any corporate entities.

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zeppo 19 points 3 years ago

They could easily have their own websites based on Mastodon or Lemmy, not federated with anything.

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Duamerthrax 7 points 3 years ago

They could also just use RSS feeds for one way notifications.

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zeppo 7 points 3 years ago

this is true, but that would require their audience to know about and use RSS.

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timbuck2themoon 2 points 3 years ago

Or just use RSS.

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bighi 9 points 3 years ago

The Brazilian government send SMS to people for alerts. It’s independent of apps, and everyone with a phone can get them.

Seems like a good solution for important warnings.

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NevermindNoMind 7 points 3 years ago

I don't use twitter, but I'll check the local utilities twitter if there is a power outage so I can learn about updates, or the local transit twitter if there are delays, things like that. SMS isn't very practical for those kinds of infrequent uses.

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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 3 points 3 years ago

They could just set up an RSS feed.

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bamboobanga 11 points 3 years ago

This should be the kick in the butt that public entities need to stop using twitter, since their announcements should be made available to everyone, not just those who have twitter accounts.

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petunia 8 points 3 years ago path: 0 656790 675441, hotness: undefined, score: 8, children: 0
poison 7 points 3 years ago

Our taxes should not go to padding twitter’s wallets

Or just nationalize Twitter, make it a public utility like water, parks, roads, etc. Then it's not subject to the whims of some clownshow billionaire dictator. It could be the people's podium, not some damp troll cave.

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ATiredPhilosopher 1 point 3 years ago

Don't forget Elon unironically said he wanted Twitter to be a global town square. Dudes playing 1d chess by reducing his advertisers reach even further...

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talos 79 points 3 years ago

Omg, I went to twitter.com and it requires a login now. That's the end of that, I guess. Most people aren't going to sign up to see a random sentence written by some person that was linked to by some random website.

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Notyou 18 points 3 years ago

Same thing happened to Insta back when I used to lurk on it. They start requiring a login to view any content, so I just noped out. I don't care enough to make an account on every social media site.

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tranceFusion 15 points 3 years ago

Are all the news articles with embedded tweet widgets busted now?

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NevermindNoMind 17 points 3 years ago

I just checked a random news article and embedded tweets seem to be working still. But when you click the tweet you get taken to the login page.

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scutiger 5 points 3 years ago

I don't know why they bother embedding tweets. They always quote the tweet anyway, so you end up reading the same bit twice.

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sirtwinklebottom 58 points 3 years ago

Fuck Twitter. Garbage anyway.

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donalonzo 22 points 3 years ago
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ToastyWaffles 9 points 3 years ago

Anything worthwhile from Twitter gets screenshot or there's an article posted anyways.

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wtf_man 9 points 3 years ago

twitter is the perfect place to have a screenshot of something you said in 2010 be put on blast so a bunch of college kids can scream about it and demand your corporation fires you

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CaptainApathetic 8 points 3 years ago

The only reason I use it is that not enough prominent people are on Mastodon and for me it's only good for being a quick way of seeing what's going on in media and politics.

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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 2 points 3 years ago

I wonder how many of those people are going to switch now that non-logged-in people can't even see their posts.

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elephantintheroom 2 points 3 years ago

That's the only reason I've used it for in the past. Following news agencies and NGOs.

Now it works the same way with mastodon.

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Tallero 2 points 3 years ago

Downside is that it seems post elon twitter is far more far right infested, twitter algo pushes those agendas even when one constantly tries to block and press not interested on tweets and accounts.

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Matharl 50 points 3 years ago

Maybe users will stop posting link to this site now that a lot of people can’t see it.

I see this as a plus.

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douglasg14b 11 points 3 years ago

Walled gardens are not a plus, no matter how much you might want to watch something wilt and die, restricting access to information doesn't help you nor I.

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AustralianSimon 12 points 3 years ago

It's good because open platforms will grow, this is how reddit got there. Actually this is how they all seem to start before greed takes over.

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Matharl 9 points 3 years ago

No one should use Twitter for news and information considering how poorly it fights fakenews.

If you wanna share something, use the actual source.

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Ghostalmedia 6 points 3 years ago

This is a blessing. That stuff will no longer get upvotes in video subreddits and communities.

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JigglySackles 45 points 3 years ago

I can't wait for this stubborn jackass to kill off twitter to the point it becomes an unrecoverable decline.

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cantstopthesignal 20 points 3 years ago

I never understood the appeal. I have friends that send me random twitter links and I'm like I don't understand wtf I'm looking at, it's difficult to tell who is talking to whom, and whatever it was isn't funny or interesting to begin with. I don't care what chucklefart69 has to say about a famous person. If I want to read the news, I'll read the news. I'm ok with not knowing about a major event breaking within the first 5 minutes of it happening.

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PR_freak 4 points 3 years ago

Right! I thought I was the only dumbass that found tweet structure extremely unintuitive and difficult to understand who was talking to whom

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Matdan 10 points 3 years ago

It basically is, free API was culled destroying many apps and sites that scraped data from Twitter. So many glitches and bugs mean it's easy to get banned.

You get temporarily blocked if you follow more than a couple accounts in a short time and basically anything. So much anti-vax rubbish and crazy people forced onto my feed. Blocking too many of those gets you temp locked out.

Now this login screen and I'm struggling to see how anyone can find it useful. My work still insists though.

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joshuaacasey 2 points 3 years ago
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Draegur 1 point 3 years ago

the only way mastodon will ever get a chance, and even then, it's gonna be an uphill battle. even with zero competition, mastodon will struggle. Because its name fucking sucks. Dear gods. Who in their right fucking mind names a social media service after an ungainly lumbering beast that is world renowned for being EXTINCT.

Maybe if they renamed the whole thing to something like "trunky", a bright and bouncy name like that might actually stick. Meanwhile, an elephant never forgets, etc. The unfortunate connection to the american conservative faction's mascot might still be a stumbling block, but it's not nearly as big a problem as it being currently called "mastodon".

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JigglySackles 7 points 3 years ago

Lol I think you're way over thinking the name. But it's definitely not my job to name things so who am I to judge.

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rezz 2 points 3 years ago

Yes. Lemmy is also a bad name. But Mastodon guy I believe is German as well — I peg it to one of those, “concept doesn’t cross the copywriting language barrier” sort of issues.

It’s probably the worst app name, period. It needs to be forked and rebranded.

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Nryanlol 45 points 3 years ago

Why does the internet seem to just continue getting shittier

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Jackhammer_Joe 27 points 3 years ago

Corporate greed and commercialisation of everything. Welcome to the dystopian hellhole we live in

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MercuryUprising 14 points 3 years ago

Yep, every company requires quarterly growth and hitting KPIs, so a bunch of assholes with no moral qualms about it will fuck everything to get higher bonuses.

Its also why everything is subscription based these days.

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TwoGems 7 points 3 years ago
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lazyplayboy 2 points 3 years ago

Adobe relies on piracy for it's dominant position

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AlexisFR 1 point 3 years ago
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Vipsu 24 points 3 years ago

Many of the services are ran by huge companies that are simply running out of ways to grow. This makes them try to gain more out of existing user base often through questionable ways.

Same thing has been happening for the game industry as well with premium games now having season passes, battle passes, gambling, micro transactions and online only requirements.

[edit] corrected duplicate mention of season passes, intention was to mention battle pass instead.

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FrederikNJS 2 points 3 years ago

Dunno if writing "season passes" twice was intentional... But somehow it fits with reality better this way 😔

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partial_accumen 43 points 3 years ago

Is the suggestion here that Twitter now requires a login to even view a tweet?

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Ech 29 points 3 years ago

It's not a suggestion. It's what they're doing right now.

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partial_accumen 7 points 3 years ago

My statement is use of speech clarifying what @rooster_butt@lemm.ee is communicating, and its been confirmed as "yes".

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NevermindNoMind -3 points 3 years ago
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Willer 2 points 3 years ago

can you also tell me in what universe this wouldnt be a shotgun to the knee face?

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Ech 2 points 3 years ago

Musk's delusional one, apparently.

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TheOneCurly 24 points 3 years ago

That's what I'm experiencing. Every tweet and even going to the main url results in a redirect to a log in splash page.

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partial_accumen 41 points 3 years ago

Well if that's the case Twitter is as dead to me.

Spez has talked about how he's trying to model Reddit on Musk's "success" with Twitter.

It would be hilarious if Musk set up Spez to take the publicity fall to cover Musk's plan to force Twitter for authenticated consumption only.

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Augustiner 28 points 3 years ago

Why does there always have to be a secret play involved with musk? Can’t they just both be incompetent at leading a social media company? This is just another example of Hanlon‘s Razor…

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AbidanYre 18 points 3 years ago

People have a hard time with the fact that the richest man in the world isn't a genius.

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Aviandelight 3 points 3 years ago

Maybe not a secret play but definitely a dick move by Elon that surely benefits him.

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zeppo 13 points 3 years ago

Twitter is way more prominent than reddit. I doubt that there's a secret plan

If anything, Splez is too dense to notice that Musk seems to be intentionally/unintentionally ruining Twitter. It's really hard to imagine how someone could look at "ad revenue down 70%" and think wow, that's what we need to emulate!

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Oswald 3 points 3 years ago

To second this, it seems to be happening to me today too, as of this morning.

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cerevant 14 points 3 years ago

Yep. I wonder what this is going to do to their traffic. I know I’m not signing up.

I bet Reddit will follow suit.

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danhasnolife 39 points 3 years ago

The enshittification continues. Cannot believe they are taking a page out of Pinterest, of all places.

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melonpunk 38 points 3 years ago

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Willer 6 points 3 years ago

Is there a way to control the image size?

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zurohki 24 points 3 years ago

There isn't an image size that makes Jeremy Clarkson look attractive, don't bother.

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Duamerthrax 2 points 3 years ago

Just so long as you're not around when he looks hungry, you should be fine.

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melonpunk 4 points 3 years ago

Good question, I have no idea. I wasn't even sure this was going to post. I just pasted the images in from the clipboard.

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Willer 29 points 3 years ago

darn

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banksymimosa 7 points 3 years ago

Can I make this image bigger?

Bigger than you're thinking right now.

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TaraYazdiEnthusiast 34 points 3 years ago

So are all social media companies racing to the bottom?

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axtualdave 17 points 3 years ago

I think we're reaching that point in the technology cycle where the money people have finally realized that running a social media platform is essentially unprofitable. People absolutely loathe ads and go to extremes to block them, and legislative and regulatory controls are starting to squeeze the manipulative aspects of social media such that what few ads the platforms can serve aren't as relevant anymore, and the data they collect from their users is protected in more and more jurisdictions.

So they're bailing on the open platform idea. They're slapping paywalls up, putting things behind required-accounts, and trying to build a walled garden they can control.

I wish them the best. I remember what happened to Prodigy, CompuServer, and AOL.

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MercuryUprising 5 points 3 years ago

Always have been

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cerevant 26 points 3 years ago

The fediverse really needs to work on usability, but this is yet another example of why monolithic services can never be the long term solution.

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Willer 1 point 3 years ago

beeing monolithic is not bad, its just an issue when its not FOSS.

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bulbyvr 4 points 3 years ago

FOSS monoliths can still be bad, see red hat hiding its source code

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hark 1 point 3 years ago

Wouldn't hiding source code disqualify the OS portion of FOSS?

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Contravariant 1 point 3 years ago

You'd think, but apparently they hadn't taken into account that someone would sell GPL licensed software and then simply instruct their customers that they had the right to publish the source code while simultaneously reminding them that red hat had the right to reject their custom should they choose to exercise this right.

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kozel 25 points 3 years ago

Also nitter works no longer.

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sotolf 6 points 3 years ago

Wow, that's kind of sad to see since it's the only interaction I've had with twitter for years has been through nitter.

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Vipsu 23 points 3 years ago

What makes this worse is that using Twitter pretty much requires one to give them your phone number. Accounts without one will often or eventually get locked for "suspicious activity" and given option to unlock the account by providing phone number.

So anyone thinking about creating throwaway account to browse twitter, don't bother.

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kozel 3 points 3 years ago

I had one w/o telephone number, it got locked right the day I decided to delete it...

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abaixodecao 3 points 3 years ago

Can't believe I wasted 40 minutes on this, I shouldn't write this, but using Tor on Brave I was able to open an account without a phone number. Now I'll have to delete it...

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Delusional 2 points 3 years ago

I've avoided that awful site since it's creation and now that it's getting significantly worse, there's even less of a reason to make an account.

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tappytoes 2 points 3 years ago

Yep, I've tried to make at least 5-6 and all have been suspended without warning.

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N00dle 21 points 3 years ago

This is super annoying. I was trying to read a news tweet but can't I don't have an account. They did this on a Friday and haven't commented on it means it's probably here to stay.

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Delusional 12 points 3 years ago

Just another reason why that site is going to shit.

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KrapKake 20 points 3 years ago

Reddit... And now Twitter can go right into the garbage. Not using the stupid official app and I am not making a Twitter account. Nope.

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abaixodecao 18 points 3 years ago

I'm in panic, here in Portugal now I can't read the President's and Prime Minister's tweets. I'm gonna kill myself! s/

[Edit:] Nitter instances aren't working, guess I'll have to delete my forgoten account in that shitty site.

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Touching_Grass 18 points 3 years ago

Seems like a big moment in what the internet will be.

Early on the internet thrived on being open. Lots of amazing builders embodied the idea of open source collaborative environments and the website's other people built on their infrastructure and tech followed those principles.

Now we're in a new era. The business class saw how popular these spaces and communities were and bought them out. Now were in a place were they lock everything up, force scarcity fucking it all up

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Mereo 12 points 3 years ago

We're now in the era of Enshittification:

  1. Initial Stage: When a platform starts, it needs users, so it makes itself valuable to users. It provides services that are beneficial to the users, attracting them to the platform.

  2. Second Stage: Once the platform has a substantial user base, it starts to abuse its users to make things better for its business customers. It starts prioritizing its business needs over the needs of the users.

    1. Final Stage: Finally, the platform starts to abuse its business customers to claw back all the value for itself. It starts taking a larger share of the value that passes between the users and the business customers.

The article: https://www.wired.com/...

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Usher9696 3 points 3 years ago

Maybe I’m being optimistic, but it seems like the internet is slowly returning to its open ways. Lemmy and Mastodon have taken off over the last few weeks, and while that’s no guarantee that they’ll continue to get more popular, they do seem to function as decent alternatives.

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melonpunk 18 points 3 years ago

Wow, these companies are making it really easy for me to walk away. Thanks for the 15 years Twitter (I barely used you for the last 6 or so).

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iterable 17 points 3 years ago

...for a guy who doesn't like Facebook Elon sure likes to emulate it.

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hark 15 points 3 years ago

I used to click on the trending hashtags and use the search to look up content on twitter, then they put them behind a login wall, so I stopped using those. Now with them putting the entire site behind the login wall, I'm simply not using the site at all. This should be great for the growth of the platform.

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Fizz 14 points 3 years ago

I thought Twitter had always required a sign in. I've never had a Twitter account so I'm always locked out.

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Hildegarde 8 points 3 years ago

Previously you could view linked tweets. It would be very annoying if you're not logged in. It would try to obstruct your view with a giant popup telling you to log in, but until today, twitter was readable without an account.

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LittleBigDonDon 1 point 3 years ago

Lol, same

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hup 13 points 3 years ago

Nah, logged out access is back, they are just running a half billion user website with a skeleton crew over there lol.

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namesare4squares 12 points 3 years ago

Is Nitter working for you? Having trouble with a number of hosts this AM

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miked 3 points 3 years ago

My Nitter is asking for username. It was been working normally before today.

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Torturechamber 10 points 3 years ago

I believe this was an old implementation, seems to be rolled out in batches. Anyhow fuck twitter as well

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With_Teeth 10 points 3 years ago
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rooster_butt 10 points 3 years ago

So this must be a regional thing since I can get around the login page using a VPN. My personal opinion on the matter is that I'm at least expecting backlash from governments since officials like using twitter for official announcements. I do not expect this playing well for twitter since they are holding a public forum hostage.

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Neirin_D 9 points 3 years ago

Same here. I only browse, so I don't have an account and I don't plan on making one. This sucks.

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samus12345 4 points 3 years ago

Does it? It will only help to kill it off faster.

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ATiredPhilosopher 1 point 3 years ago

Idk, it's given me a good reason to not load it

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jegerlatvisk 9 points 3 years ago

Thank god, I deleted my twitter account this week.

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assassin_aragorn 8 points 3 years ago

I don't know if I should be laughing or crying. It's readily apparent that Musk and Spez don't understand their product. Like, at all. Governments, politicians, NGOs, and businesses use Twitter because of the broad audience. It works as a platform for announcements because anyone can access it.

Locking it down to only Twitter users kills this. It isn't going to help ad revenue either to reduce the audience.

I saw some people say this was a tech issue and not a policy change, and that better be the case if Twitter wants to survive. They lose their last competitive advantage otherwise.

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JesusTheCarpenter 2 points 3 years ago

My theory is that they are being sneaky and this is a trial to see how it will affect Twitter if they only made it to registered users. That is why they are calling it a "tech" issue. What a bunch of bollocks. This way they can backdown if they see a negative impact by claiming that they "fixed" the issue.

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JesusTheCarpenter 1 point 3 years ago

My theory is that they are being sneaky and this is a trial to see how it will affect Twitter if they only made it to registered users. That is why they are calling it a "tech" issue. What a bunch of bollocks. This way they can backdown if they see a negative impact by claiming that they "fixed" the issue.

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meiti 8 points 3 years ago

time to delete my already dead accounts

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MightyWeaksauce 7 points 3 years ago

I noticed this too when I posted a Twitter link. Not a fan and I'll probably find a work around rather than just posting Twitter links anymore 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Zoness 7 points 3 years ago

For you discorders, I noticed that fxtwitter is also broken due to an API change. Thanks Elon!

I wish Nitter plugins worked for Firefox Android.

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PainInTheAES 3 points 3 years ago

It does if you run nightly and set up a custom extension profile. I currently have all my desktop extensions on mobile.

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Zoness 1 point 3 years ago

Good tip, thanks!

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PainInTheAES 1 point 3 years ago
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Matharl 7 points 3 years ago
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a253040 7 points 3 years ago

I deleted my mostly unused account shortly after Musk started showing his crazy. Anything that makes it harder to use it accidentally is fine by me.

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SJ_Zero 6 points 3 years ago

Especially once you are mostly on alternative sites, privacy redirect is top tier.

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abaixodecao 5 points 3 years ago

I could have sworn I read that the project was on hold, and it was advisable to use LibRedirect instead.

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clovernorth 5 points 3 years ago

Commenting here so I can do this tomorrow!

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ThetaDev 5 points 3 years ago

What nitter instance are you using? I'm getting an error message indicating an empty json document.

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amcjv12 1 point 3 years ago

Nitter's not working for me, either. Just returns no results when I run a search.

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tryagain 4 points 3 years ago

Either, or both. The Fediverse is the way forward for government announcements.

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kromem 7 points 3 years ago

It's pretty wild. Users are inherently lazy. Give a decent product where you can have a positive ROI on user engagement and sit back to rake it in.

But actively be hostile to users and they are fickle as can be.

I was on Reddit for 16 years with over 100k karma.

And I've deleted the app I was using for it which they broke and switched app and habits over to Lemmy in less than 24 hours.

Nothing like hubris with a dash of greed to ensure success for one's competition.

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kromem 3 points 3 years ago
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ElectricCattleman 2 points 3 years ago

Designed to be hostile to the user.

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shidposter 2 points 3 years ago
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shidposter 1 point 3 years ago
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bulbyvr 1 point 3 years ago

I was trying to find this specific tweet (https://twitter.com/...) on nitter because of the login page but the KrisJelbring isn't on any instance? I don't really understand LOL

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Khazaal 1 point 3 years ago

Makes my blood boil

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