That post seems to be missing.

jinarched 138 points 3 years ago

We don't need reddit, reddit needs us. Just move on and be done with the platform. Just create new habits with Lemmy and reddit should slowly fade away from your mind. If we give alternatives some time, I'm sure great content will emerge and crazy shit like the three days no poop challenge will happen more over time.

I am personally very optimistic.

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PillowTalk420 19 points 3 years ago

the three days no poop challenge

That's a challenge?

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ironeaglebird 17 points 3 years ago

It became a meme early in June after migration from the API announcement. A Lemmy user was going on like a 3 day hiking trip and posted to asklemmy what foods to pack to reduced his needed poops.

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semibreve42 19 points 3 years ago

Just to be clear, he absolutely wasn’t going hiking but to some sort of BDSM event.

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ironeaglebird 8 points 3 years ago

Lol. That's even funnier. I just glossed over the original post. Didn't realize that it was going to be Lemmy history.

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RomanRoy 6 points 3 years ago

We were there boys!

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Still 1 point 3 years ago

no, it's impossible.

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norgur 9 points 3 years ago

Back in the day, when I used to go to metal festivals, there was a group among my friends who would never go for a number two during the festival. Instead, they'd weigh themselves back at home, take a dump and weigh themselves again and whoever lost the most weight won.

So... there's that.

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cwagner 1 point 3 years ago

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Resistentialism 8 points 3 years ago

three days no poop challenge

The hell happened here?

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FalseLight 128 points 3 years ago

The answer is to use Fediverse alternatives to Reddit and Twitter.

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Sharpiemarker 32 points 3 years ago

What a wild idea...

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moe 88 points 3 years ago

virgin API requests vs. chad web scraping

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Evoke3626 31 points 3 years ago

Yeah unironically this. Mental outlaw did a good video on this subject recently, about Reddit, and he spoke about Chad web scrapers

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skeletorsass 2 points 3 years ago

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Grant_M 59 points 3 years ago

twitter 👎 reddit 👎 meta 👎 alphabet 👎

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Lewistrick 25 points 3 years ago

You forgot Amazon (Twitch)

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sweBers 9 points 3 years ago

Dear God, to wasn't FAANG all along. All fear MARTA!

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odium 6 points 3 years ago

What social media does alphabet have?

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Grant_M 19 points 3 years ago

youtube, google

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Borgzilla 56 points 3 years ago

The solution is to ditch Reddit altogether.

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Deft 52 points 3 years ago

should've stopped a long time ago. I've been off everything but reddit for years and now I'm here.

we need to respond to things fucking us over quicker. Blizzard, the public transit system in America, Reddit, Twitter, Blizzard, the United States.

we give these cunts too much wiggle room

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domsch 29 points 3 years ago

With things like Blizzard it's "easy". I don't NEED Diablo 4. I'd like it, but i'm not going to get it out of principle. But Reddit is different. I don't need it as a social media platform or to post myself, but for me, a huge portion of relevant online search results are from reddit. I pretty much run into tech and non-tech issues on a daily basis that are only documented or solved by a years old reddit post. And i'm pretty sad to see that go. Not the social part of reddit, but having so much condensed knowledge in a single place.

And while lemmy is nice it isn't an alternative until i can move instances and subscribe to communities without having a pending status for weeks. You also can't search online for lemmy because of motörhead and because every instance names itself.

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SkyeStarfall 8 points 3 years ago

I would argue reddit shouldn't have been used for tech stuff and troubleshooting as much as it was. Neither should discord for that matter.

For this purpose wikis and old-school forums worked well. I hope we go more back to that.

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Declared0978 1 point 3 years ago

I dunno how it all works but i started only viewing the google cached version of reddit posts

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Ataraxia 2 points 3 years ago

I also just quit youtube. Don't use it much so now I'm down to streaming services that won't spam me or are actually worth paying for. There's nothing on YouTube I'd pay to watch. Sorry viva la dirt league, not even you. If they had their own streaming service maybe!

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domsch 1 point 3 years ago

So, which are worth paying for? Netflix hasn't done a good show for me in 2 or 3 years. Prime Videos Interface, search and selection sucks, Paramount has basically only Star Trek for me. Disney plus comes pretty close for me. I love Star Wars and Marvel, and with a child in the house, they have something for everyone. But i'd argue Disney is a morally worse company than google or reddit.

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Generator 40 points 3 years ago

Are they?
Teddit uses his own "Unofficial API" for scrapping.
I've posted here a list of Reddit apps that will continue to work https://lemmy.ml/comment/1054018

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Jackolantern 2 points 3 years ago

How do these apps manage to still work?

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azuth 4 points 3 years ago

They don't use the API, they appear as web browsers and download the actual reddit webpages and extract the posts and comments from that.

Which is certainly more inefficient and stressing reddit's servers more than using the API.

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mochi 36 points 3 years ago

should we just quit using these sites or what?

Yes.

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Ataraxia 33 points 3 years ago

Because I don't want to feed your addiction I will not let you know which 3rd party apps will work because FUCK SPEZ nobody should ever go back lol.

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elxeno 28 points 3 years ago

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RandallFlagg 11 points 3 years ago

Damn, check out this guy with his fancy embedded meme into his comment.

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DiTo94 3 points 3 years ago

Now you will have to tell

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muffin 32 points 3 years ago

If I want to still be able to look at the works of my favorite artists, photographers and animators, I will unfortunately have to use it to some extent. Some of them also post on other platforms like pixiv, which allows you to look at content without an account. If there is any other way to look at their content, I do, but some are Twitter exclusive unfortunately.

People will naturally follow their favorite artists and will want to interact with them. If you could somehow convince the creators to post on a free and open alternative, I would not have any problem completely deleting my Twitter account.

In the case of Reddit, I would delete my Reddit account if I knew that all the rock hounders, bug identifiers, mineral photographers and crochet enthusiasts were here.

So, what now? If you are able to, create content that people are interested in and post in exclusively on free and open alternatives. If you have any useful skills or know-how, help people on free and open alternatives with their questions and problems. That is how I got into Twitter and Reddit at least. Maybe it will work for others too.

And most importantly: be nice. Don't downvote people's comments and posts for no reason. Don't leave toxic comments. Say Thank you, give people compliments, provide constructive criticism and try to be helpful.

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Relected 5 points 3 years ago

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Riktastic 31 points 3 years ago

Teddit doesn't hold any data. It's "data" was reddit. It's developers think that when you use the free key for 60 requests per second, that it will probably be enough.

Libreddit is trying to use the private Reddit API . Which is currently being used by the official Reddit app.

Running Teddit using a free key seems fairly usable, as long as you are self hosting an instance. Libreddits's approach tries to bring back the old situation

Projects will deviate and find ways to be useful again.

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amanneedsamaid 14 points 3 years ago

Yes; I highly doubt any of these projects are truly "dead", they just need to figure out the best ways to scrape these services.

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remus 1 point 3 years ago

Libreddit is trying to use the private Reddit API . Which is currently being used by the official Reddit app.

How is this possible? Doesn’t Reddit restrict their private API behind some sort of key/token?

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Riktastic 1 point 3 years ago

I have no idea, they probably found a way to simulate the mobile app during the authentication fase.

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Diabolo96 26 points 3 years ago

Teddit use an unofficial API https://codeberg.org/teddit/teddit they don't relay on reddit.

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Relected 3 points 3 years ago

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madis 2 points 3 years ago

It's possible to change the title after posting here?! 😲

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kostel_thecreed 3 points 3 years ago

Something I wish Reddit had before the migration..

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accesslog 1 point 3 years ago

Teddit provides unofficial API (proxy) for rss but it relies on reddit API.

teddit config.js file

use_reddit_oauth: process.env.USE_REDDIT_OAUTH === 'true' || false, // If false, teddit uses Reddit's public API. If true, you need to have your own Reddit app ID (enter the app ID to the "reddit_app_id" config key).

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Diabolo96 1 point 3 years ago

I saw it in their codeberg.org repo. Shit.

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cc8 24 points 3 years ago

Wait nitter is dead too?

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muffin 29 points 3 years ago

Yes unfortunately Twitter did that yesterday. Hopefully they will be able to scrape the content somehow anyway (apparently Twitter still allows googlebot to crawl their Tweets, so maybe Nitter will just disguise as a googlebot)

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nevial 4 points 3 years ago

I don't think so. Elon posted that that step was only necessary because of heavy scraping for AI purposes. Once they got that sorted out, tweets should be public again and guess Bitter will start working again

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Anon 20 points 3 years ago

When Elon Musk says "temporary", it means "forever"

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Kleinbonum 6 points 3 years ago

Elon posted

I mean, sure, but: why should we believe anything he says?

The reality on the ground seems to be that Elon just tweets whatever thought enters his mind, and in a best case scenario, people then run around and scramble to make his tweets come true.

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muffin 2 points 3 years ago

I hope so

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possiblylinux127 20 points 3 years ago

Lemmy

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matricaria 19 points 3 years ago

Libreddit works fine for me.

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Vexz 9 points 3 years ago

I can confirm that.

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Relected 1 point 3 years ago

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matricaria 20 points 3 years ago

I don’t think it will die soon, Libreddit doesn’t use the API anyway. Also you claimed these services were already dead.

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Gsus4 16 points 3 years ago

We'll live. Long live the fediverse (and old-school forums)

BTW: was there ever or is there any sort of listing for all sorts of hobbyist or thematic forums? The main reason I never used many of them was because I never came across them and admittedly it was pretty easy to do that in reddit just by typing r/doesacommunityforthistopicexist

edit: is there some similar listing for mastodon? I'm having trouble finding a type of technical-oriented crowd.

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Kush 14 points 3 years ago

Yes, there are a couple of websites that categorise and provide searching for communities across the Lemmyverse.

https://www.quippd.com/...

https://sub.rehab/

https://browse.feddit.de/

There's a bunch more too.

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Thunder_Caulk 1 point 3 years ago

Thanks. Kind lemming

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Uniquitous 2 points 3 years ago

Usenet, aka NNTP. I don't think it exists anymore but... can a protocol ever truly die?

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Brahm1nmam 2 points 3 years ago

Usenet is still around, not hugely active but there's a lot out there still

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Zetaphor 1 point 3 years ago

It's my primary source for pirated content

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lemann 2 points 3 years ago

On Lemmy, you can check out electronics-related ones on discuss.tchncs.de

There's also a ton of programming related ones on programming.dev, only listed a few below

https://lmmy.to/c/programming@programming.dev
https://lmmy.to/c/auai@programming.dev (Actually Useful AI)
https://lmmy.to/c/python@programming.dev

Not sure obout Mastodon though

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Feweroptions 1 point 3 years ago

Jerboa has a search function that finds them - right in the app!

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Aninjanameddaryll 16 points 3 years ago

It gives us the great joy of saying "fuck 'em"

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bg10k 15 points 3 years ago

is that it? should we just quit using these sites or what?

Yes.

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haroldstork 14 points 3 years ago

libreddit is still working for me

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styx 1 point 3 years ago

Me, too. I don't think it is using the official API, neither does teddit.

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DevCat 13 points 3 years ago

Your question answers itself. If those sites don't want casual users, then don't visit.

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lemmy 12 points 3 years ago

Going to miss nitter especially because twitter requiring sign in, guess I'll use google cache for reddit or just try not to look at the links

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Aetherion 11 points 3 years ago

yes, exactly

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SockElectronics 11 points 3 years ago

What, nitter is down too? Bummer. Well, anyways

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InfiniWheel 3 points 3 years ago

Most instances seem to be broken. Dunno what happened there

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jamesravey 12 points 3 years ago

Twitter rolled out a change requiring you to sign in to see any content at all so now even scraping won't work (unless one were to set up lots of bot accounts and use them to scrape)

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jerkface 6 points 3 years ago

I hope this forces all the government services presently piggybacking off twitter to actually deploy infrastructure for pushing alerts and news out

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MarioBarisa 9 points 3 years ago

We should strive to use/promote privacy-friendly and foss alternatives ( fediverse in general ) like Mastodon or Lemmy.

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Life_is_Beautiful 9 points 3 years ago

Youtube is also blocking invidious and Piped. Frontends are no end solution. The only solution can be the fediverse. But you can use these services with a good ad blocker

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cambionn 12 points 3 years ago

NewPipe (on Piped technology) is working fine here? As long as YT isn't behind a login they will keep working. If they do put it behind login, tbf they'll likely find way around it again sooner or later.

I agree that front-ends are always in an endless fight against these Big Tech solutions. But for content not available on other platforms it's an necesity and a better solution than simply an adblocker. And sadly it'll take a long time before content moves away, Average Joe isn't really worried about Google as much as they are about the cons of moving away from YT.

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Life_is_Beautiful 4 points 3 years ago

Wie are really lucky newpipe still works, but I think Google will do more. I expect, that Newpipe, Aurora and all other YouTube Frontends are breaking.

If this would happen, the only solution I see to still access these services ist to use Mullvad Browser with u blog origin. And of course you need a goof VPN like mullvad

But in the end you can't escape it

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cambionn 3 points 3 years ago

but I think Google will do more. They've been trying to break it for ages. It's one of those never ending fights. Doubt it'll end soon.

Even if it does, then we're at a point that "just use a good browser and uBlock Origin" also won't cut it. Honestly, those will break much sooner than dedicated projects that are much more sophisticated in getting around YT-stuff. As soon as they put a login requirement on the site, which is needed to break apps like NewPipe, the browser + uBlock idea already won't cut it anymore, no matter if you got a VPN ot not.

As for Aurora, as long as Average Joe still uses Google Play without a care I'm not too worried about it. People use AdBlock for the ease, but using Aurora doesnt't give ease. It's only the tiny group of privacy people interested in it, which is a much smaller demographic that'll be hard to convert to Google services. If they break Aurora, the amount of non-playstore requests to developers is going to to pump up and as long as stuff like APKMirror and apk downloads from vendors still exist people will download by hand over using the Play Store. It's a lot of trouble that likely just leads people further away from Google.

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WeLoveCastingSpelz 8 points 3 years ago

Stealth app on android still works buut lemmy just don't use reddit at this point

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Lolors17 3 points 3 years ago

Infinity also still works for me, but they announced in the recent update, that they are switching to a subscription based platform to keep up with the API changes.

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hellfire103 5 points 3 years ago

Wait WHAT?!!

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BrooklynMan 2 points 3 years ago

I quit twitter when Elmo bought it and quit reddit when they announced their new pricing model. lemmy and mastodon are great!

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miked 2 points 3 years ago

They turned off access for everyone not signed on.

I think they will change their minds once the page views drop.

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bren42069 1 point 3 years ago

yes

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Fudgeknuckles98 1 point 3 years ago

Interestingly my self hosted libreddit instance is still working for me, not sure if they use the official api or some unofficial method like scraping

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AlwaysTheir 1 point 3 years ago

So I just visited reddit for the first time since June 30th because of this post. Opened a private window, typed reddit.com. It loaded fine. What makes you think you need an account to "view any of the datat that exists on" reddit?

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Relected 1 point 3 years ago

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AlwaysTheir 1 point 3 years ago

While I appreciate the response the logic doesn't check out. You can view the content. You don't need an account unless you want to use your own viewer. This post was misleading.

Given your response other people's answer to just not visit reddit is correct.

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Relected 1 point 3 years ago

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primaryuser 1 point 3 years ago

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pnutzh4x0r 1 point 3 years ago

That's not quite true. I self-host libreddit and it continues to work fine. The public instances with many users will not work because of the new API limits, but if you run one yourself, it should continue to work.

That said, I've mostly switched over to lemmy and mastodon and haven't had a need to go to reddit or twitter.

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chris002 1 point 3 years ago

Redread still works.

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