I live in India and barely anyone I know uses reddit. So to see it being 3rd on the list is pretty surprising. Although to be fair, with the population we have, even a small percentage is a big number.

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devd2000 1 point 3 years ago

Aisa laga hi tha.

I feel we are underestimating the power of NSFW content. Do you think people would pay to look at Ullu, AltBalaji content? Reddit is money free consumption place for them.

Also, I have a different experience. In the past few years, I have seen a lot of people around who have started using Reddit a lot.

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tobybencollaghduff 86 points 3 years ago

I just don’t understand the thought process. They could’ve just shelled out $10M for Apollo and made that the official Reddit app. Then give users the choice of ads or pay for ad free experience.

so basically they’re making a massive gamble that most people will just switch over to their garbage app. Maybe they will, but for sure the power users, big sub moderators & regular posters are all coming to Lemmy. You know, all the people that made Reddit worth visiting.

Personally I think this will be the end of Reddit.

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AnOrangeBabbler 63 points 3 years ago

Well, Reddit did shell out money for a third party client. They bought the iOS app Alien Blue in 2014 and turned that into an official app before quickly abandoning it for their client in 2016.

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Revan343 20 points 3 years ago

They bought the app , and then destroyed it.

They should have learned for their second try, and just bought the app, then not destroyed it.

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whereisk 8 points 3 years ago

If your core offering can be recreated by a bunch of hobbyists in the their spare time, and your value is 100% the content your users create and moderate then perhaps you're not the great product company you thought you were and you should leave product creation to others.

But hey, perhaps it's a good idea to take the reasons for using your site away and see what happens.

After all, your friends take their private planes everywhere while you're forced to fly first class occasionally - and you want that money.

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rbits 5 points 3 years ago

That would never happen though. The icentives of Christian Selig and the incentives of Reddit are very different. People like it because it's not made by Reddit

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Revan343 3 points 3 years ago

That is the crux of the issue, yeah. Reddit needs to make money, which requires enshittifying their app to serve more ads...which drives people away from using their app.

Lemmy's lack of profit motive is probably the best thing going for it. The decentralization is good too, but I still think it's secondary to the fact that it doesn't need to try to make a profit

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tobybencollaghduff 8 points 3 years ago

Yeah I used that before Apollo :)

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bobs_monkey 39 points 3 years ago

Realistically Reddit will survive, but it will be a zombie of its former self, kind of similar to how Digg is these days. Let's just hope it kills their valuation and /u/spez has to answer for it.

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AlexisLuna 9 points 3 years ago

I really hope it survives, only because I want to preserve and archive all of it's content. Sure, there's a lot of duplicate data and links to other places, but there's also a lot of unique things there. If it dies before it can be properly archived we would lose most of it, with only internet archive keeping some. That would be sad.

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Grimpen 12 points 3 years ago

I think that it's been fairly well archived prior to July 1st. Now that API access is blocked, further backing up becomes harder.

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orientalsniper 8 points 3 years ago

There are some off sites reddit archives, given enough time, there will be a way to find data without visiting reddit.

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corsicanguppy 1 point 3 years ago

So you read reddit specifically through the way back at all times, so it'll archive as you go?

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Krisha 4 points 3 years ago

...digg still exists?

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bobs_monkey 3 points 3 years ago

behold

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fossilesque 3 points 3 years ago

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psud 1 point 3 years ago

Some of the communities I was in on Reddit don't seem to want to move. They're ones where users don't go to Reddit, they go to r/whatever, and have usernames matched to the sub.

I doubt Reddit can survive on those sort of users, in those sort of subs, but many of them will stay on Reddit as long as it keeps working

I now only use Reddit for those subs, but rarely since I now only use Reddit thorough it's old web interface with Reddit Enhancement Suite

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QuantumEyetanglement 80 points 3 years ago

*TIL that 70% of US traffic on reddit WAS from users on a mobile device

Until July 1 2023 🪦

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gornar 12 points 3 years ago

Rip <your favourite 3rd party app>

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tilapia 72 points 3 years ago

The remaining 30% computer users might be me googling all my IT problems

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TempleSquare 17 points 3 years ago

Reddit is the new Quora or Yahoo! Answers

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frankyboi 13 points 3 years ago

Quora is so disgusting. I thank reddit will become just like quora . Reddit + to read full answers , they show you related topic under question instead of the answers , etc .

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WildfireFailure 8 points 3 years ago

Need that slide feature for one handed mode for... Reasons

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kilkil2 17 points 3 years ago

you know, now that you mention it, I should really look into using lemmy for all the things I used reddit for

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Quill7513 4 points 3 years ago

Better yet would be a shared knowledge base of "just how to do stuff" without any corporate overlords and just moderation to prevent danger or harm for spreading. Like wikihow, but not so shit. Just have basically your notes.txt file for work but with more contributors. The problem with these threaded support threads lasting forever as "here's how to do stuff" is they exist as snapshots and time makes things malleable

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Grimpen 3 points 3 years ago

I've used TiddlyWiki for work notes for ages. I used to just keep my Wiki on a thumb drive, but now I use Dropbox and "TiddlyWiki In The Sky". Have it open in another browser tab.

Searchable, tags, all the good Wiki stuff.

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CommanderShepard 65 points 3 years ago

Exactly why reddit wanted all 3rd party apps gone. All they could see was dollar signs going down the toilet.

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packjack 24 points 3 years ago

Now they see it burning

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Hiccup 16 points 3 years ago

They had dollars while you were on the toilet. Now it's flushed down the drain.

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Soad 4 points 3 years ago

I'll sue the desktop site on my phone before I'll use that hot garbage they call an app. It loads faster and works better plus not fucking video ads or that Jesus shit ad they are pushing.

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Gray 64 points 3 years ago

Worth mentioning that mobile ≠ app. Many people use Reddit in their browsers. Or the official app for that matter. This article doesn't really give those numbers which I'm sure unfortunately place the third party app users in a smaller minority. Still, I never used a third party app personally and I was still outraged enough at Reddit's behavior to leave. Hopefully more will follow suit.

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adriaan 47 points 3 years ago

Aren't they also pushing changes to have mobile browsers redirect to the app with no option for staying in the browser?

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icepuncher69 20 points 3 years ago

Actually yes. When i began ussing reddit about some years ago i was a lurker on the mobile browser. Then they started pesterin for me to make an account at very much every turn of the corner. Then they started blocking various fucktionalities like visiting subs and blocking nsfw stuff. So i made an account and the subs where still unaccsesible saying something like "this comunity is abailable in the app" an at random too. So i downloaded the app. Used it a couple of months, then learned rif existed and never looked back. Tl;DR: Yes redit has been realistcally unusable on moblie browser for years now. At least for me. Dont know how others manage to use it like that.

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Rusty 8 points 3 years ago

You can just enable "desktop site" checkbook in your mobile browser, it would send non-mobile user agent to the server. That's the only way a server can detect a mobile browser.

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adriaan 10 points 3 years ago

While that's an option the desktop site is barely navigable on a desktop let alone on a mobile device

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kilkil2 10 points 3 years ago

old.reddit.com is still an option, for now at least.

But honestly? I'm going to stick to lemmy as much as I can.

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lobut 8 points 3 years ago

Felt like they were doing that for a while. It's why I went on Boost. I refused to be pushed onto their mobile app.

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Joe 1 point 3 years ago

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dom 24 points 3 years ago

It could stop you from using the browser altogether and point you to the app.

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DuckGuy 9 points 3 years ago

That's what they're currently testing out, yes.

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glockenspiel 18 points 3 years ago

It will, actually.Reddit has been testing forced app usage via blocking mobile browsers entirely, like Pinterest does, for around 2.5 weeks.

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FirmRip 12 points 3 years ago

What an unnecessarily user-hostile move. No wonder they’re going to implement it.

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jimmyjoners 4 points 3 years ago

It blocks you after a certain point and makes you download the app though. Or is that just me? I had to force desktop view to keep seeing content

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kilkil2 12 points 3 years ago

That would be a reasonable assumption to make, with one big caveat: reddit originally had no official app, so third-party apps were our only options. If we suppose that people rarely change their habits until they're forced to (a claim that seems almost self-evident to me), then it would be reasonable to suppose that a lot of users would still be using those same 3rd-party apps they started out with. Especially considering the official app was kind of crappy from its inception.

If third-party app users made up a large percentage of users, it might also partly explain why spez is so hellbent on his crusade.

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LemmynySnicket 2 points 3 years ago

I was under the impression the initial plan just started with top api usage apps, which I didn't think would affect my app yet. Still left immediately and now turns out my app was shut down.

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renrenPDX 59 points 3 years ago

Back when I used reddit... weird saying I know, I consumed Reddit on my phone, my ipad, and desktop in various combinations, pretty much constantly. Phone/ipad during work, and additional desktop use after. Desktop using Reddit Enhancement Suite (unusable without really), and Apollo for mobile. Spez made going cold turkey on Reddit stupid easy for this heavy user of over 10 years.

It's like going to your favorite donut shop every day for a decade, where your on good terms with the employees, but the boss is shit but you hardly ever see him so it's ok. Then one day, instead of the usual server, Spez shows up, and hands you your favorite donut with a scoop of shit on top, and says that's how they serve them now. Yeah, I'll go somewhere else, thanks.

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ArchmageAzor 55 points 3 years ago

Spez really killed the whole damn site, the greedy little pigboy

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kilkil2 18 points 3 years ago

really makes you wonder how Swartz would feel about all this. what would he think of the fediverse? lemmy vs reddit?

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icepuncher69 10 points 3 years ago

Here's hoping. Its probably gonna be bussines as usual with their ridicolous culture wars.

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bstix 8 points 3 years ago

It's not entirely like usual. They're still doing that thing where they repost top posts to make it seem alive.

I don't know if it's admins, mods or bots doing it, but there sure isn't a lot of user generated content ob Reddit today.

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Casmael 48 points 3 years ago

Woweeee fucking sucks to be Reddit rn lol

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Rakonat 16 points 3 years ago

Sure hope they don't do anything to anger a large quantity of regular users rather than improve their native mobile apps and incentivize said users to use their official app rather than just kill the more popular third party ones...

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TimeIncarnate 0 points 3 years ago

Seeing as the vast, vast majority of mobile users are using the official app, it really doesn’t suck that much for them. I wish it wasn’t the case, but it is.

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goldarkrai 43 points 3 years ago

I really hope it drops a lot, but it probably won't :/

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GrindingGears 16 points 3 years ago

I honestly don't care what happens to Reddit. I've found something new to occupy my time. If Reddit stays, goes, prospers, flounders, or whatever, couldn't mean less to me. At the end of the day, it's just a fancier bulletin board. Which have existed for 25+ years at this point. Look at Lemmy or other instances of the fediverse for example, it was able to quickly and effectively pick up the people flocking, and the experience is largely the exact same thing. It's a little buggier, but it's early days at this volume. And it doesn't come with any of the bullshit, you don't like your experience for example, you can quickly find another instance and carry on.

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goldarkrai 3 points 3 years ago

Sure, now that I can't have a good app I don't care about reddit either, but if the content is on there l'll still find value in it

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sexy_peach 10 points 3 years ago

That's fine though, since the mods and frequent posters are likely to be pissed off, so the website will get much worse. It's an opportunity for us.

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goldarkrai 4 points 3 years ago

Yeah, that's for sure, but how large will the impact be?

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FunderPants 43 points 3 years ago

I uninstalled boost today, can't wait for Boost for Lemmy. Although Jebora is pretty nice too.

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wingsfortheirsmiles 19 points 3 years ago

I'm enjoying Connect for Lemmy, very smooth sailing so far

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oldlamps 6 points 3 years ago

Just found Connect, and this feels right at home coming from SYNC

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Saneless 4 points 3 years ago

Thanks. It's nice. They all have their quirks but connect seems good

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TempleSquare 5 points 3 years ago

I just switched from Jerboa to Connect.

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Revan343 10 points 3 years ago

Jerboa is a hot mess of bugs and I really miss RiF...but it's still a thousand times better than the official Reddit app

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GrindingGears 5 points 3 years ago

Is there going to be a boost for Lemmy? That excites me!

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Hoops_McCann 9 points 3 years ago

Yes, and you can set it up to auto-download once it's available if you search it in Google Play

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Impressive_Towel2 7 points 3 years ago

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rubenmayayo.lemmy&pli=1

Here it is!

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SnowWomble 3 points 3 years ago

That brings warmth to my heart. Loved Boost!

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packjack 3 points 3 years ago

oddly, it still works for me.

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The_Real_Dr_McCoy 41 points 3 years ago

That makes sense. I'm not sitting in front of my computer all day, but I always have my phone.

Switching my entire mobile usage over to lemmy is easily 90-95% of my social media time.

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roamin_ronin 39 points 3 years ago

I just deleted Apollo off my phone, so I guess I'm done with Reddit for the most part.

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Rhs519 25 points 3 years ago

I haven’t had the heart to delete it yet, but I’m also pretty much done with Reddit.

I checked it out on desktop today. Top 8 hits in 4 of my favorite subs were busted bot reposts. It was a short visit.

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roamin_ronin 9 points 3 years ago

I feel that. I just kept hitting it out of habit and it made me sad.

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Sallal 3 points 3 years ago

I replaced the reddit app with Connect for Lemmy. Instead of opening it accidentally I get the superior Lemmy experience.

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GullibleOyster 7 points 3 years ago

Same, I used a different app on Android but I can't bring myself to delete it

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HeisenbergsName 39 points 3 years ago

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Rivers 32 points 3 years ago

Not anymore LOL

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Corkyskog 9 points 3 years ago

I mean I think I saw a chart before the change and over 50% of people use the official app. So it's less then I had thought.

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Twelve20two 9 points 3 years ago

Depressing, but I'm also excited for new things here

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PicnicLife 8 points 3 years ago

/agedlikemilk

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MeanEYE 5 points 3 years ago

To be honest, I really doubt they felt the exodus. Most people don't care what Reddit is doing and /r/videos alone had more users than entire Lemmy network. I wish they felt it. I refuse to open Reddit now. They could have had a different, more user friendly approach, but no... quick and easy way to earn money.

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frankyboi 31 points 3 years ago

I will not sit at desk to read . Smartphone are just way better for this kind of task . Most people access the internet with a smartphone ,not a PC tower.

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morrowind 3 points 3 years ago

What about a laptop or tablet? I usually only use my phone when I'm on the go or in a difficult situation.

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Still 8 points 3 years ago

laptops are bulky and phones are super convenient because they're always on and have quick pausing so you can easily pick up and put down. whenever you need to

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frankyboi 1 point 3 years ago

once you have a a phone , why pay 300$ for a tablet ? I was thinking to buy a tablet because I spend an outrageous amount of time reading stuff on the internet . I looked at low-end tablet and the screen quality was terrible . I look at a S7 FE tablet ,700$, way better , but should I spend 700$ for 3 inch bigger screen ? Tablet on the toilet? I don't think so. Tablet in my shower shelves , no. Tablet in my bed,maybe , but just while sitting ... What about listening to podcasts ... My phone do it and fit in my pocket , my bicycle , my car and my jogging fanny bag. So the tablet would be used only while I'm the couch or laying in my bed... but at this point I have a laptop . I have a 42 inch tv connected to my pc tower ,and a laptop that I barely use. Since I'm sitting all day long at my job. I prefer to lay down on my sofa at night ,not sit again behind a monitor on an office chair .

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psud 1 point 3 years ago

Tablet when you lose the ability to focus up close and need your device arm's length away. But there are treatments for list accommodation or glasses, so that's a non problem

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morrowind 1 point 3 years ago

Mainly for

chilling in bed or something, where a laptop is too clumsy
digital art/drawing/notes (for me, may not apply to others)

We also have like 10-12" tablets now and I'm a small phone fan, so I could see like a 5.5" phone and 11" tablet working well.

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sapetoku 30 points 3 years ago

Well, not anymore!

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inclementimmigrant 30 points 3 years ago

Yup. I work at a computer most of the day but there was no way in hell I was going to use my monitored work computer to browse Reddit.

I just wonder how much of a impact to daily engagement that the lack of third party will affect the company now. The blackouts were never going to be effective but combine that with a downward trend of engagement might be enough to fuck the leadership over.

Still, this seems like a nice place to be even if Reddit is forced to pull it's head out of its tech bro ass.

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itchy_lizard 26 points 3 years ago

And 50% of mobile users are on a toilet

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donslaught 8 points 3 years ago

I feel like that should be 50% of ALL Reddit users are on a toilet (guilty as charged). So if you have 50% of users on the toilet, and 70% of them on mobile, why that looks like a perfect 5/7 to me.

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Xylinna 3 points 3 years ago

I had forgotten about 5/7. Ah, back in the good ol’ days of Reddit.

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razza856 1 point 3 years ago

i enjoy swiping tinder when i’m taking a shit

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Yoz 1 point 3 years ago

Lol i read your comment while taking a massive shit

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aja 26 points 3 years ago

That’s gonna drop. Right?

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randomname01 40 points 3 years ago

Probably not by too much, realistically a lot of people are going to switch to the official app

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corey389 9 points 3 years ago

I'm not going to switch to the official app. If anything thing, I'll use Firefox with UBO.

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TheMinions 12 points 3 years ago

I too am not going to use the official app, however, we’re both on Lemmy.

People using the official app are still on reddit. We’re in a nice little bubble on this issue for sure.

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Dontfearthereaper123 9 points 3 years ago

I used to use the official app then started using rif just after the blackout and then moved here it seems alot of other people who used the official app are switching too

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misc_7475 4 points 3 years ago

We can only hope.

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faltuuser 2 points 3 years ago

Only by a little bit

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PennyJim 2 points 3 years ago

Goodness, you have 8 duplicates of this comment...

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faltuuser 1 point 3 years ago

OMG

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faltuuser 1 point 3 years ago

Only by a little bit

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faltuuser 1 point 3 years ago

Only by a little bit

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faltuuser 1 point 3 years ago

Only by a little bit

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faltuuser 1 point 3 years ago

Only by a little bit

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faltuuser 1 point 3 years ago

Only by a little bit

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faltuuser 1 point 3 years ago

Only by a little bit

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faltuuser 1 point 3 years ago

Only by a little bit

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Dick_Justice 25 points 3 years ago

That's why Captain Spork is taking all these measures to eliminate the largest 3rd party apps. He wants to force everyone into using the s***** Reddit Mobile app so they can suck all that tasty, valuable user data off your phone. Becoming a millionaire off of the free content and unpaid work of other people wasn't good enough, now he wants your data so he can sell that too.

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AzPsycho 24 points 3 years ago

This is true for most online platforms. I work in Online Education as a SaaS Admin for LMS system hosting and at a conference I went to 4 or 5 years ago the UAE did an in depth presentation on their online academic outreach program. The adoption of education on mobile phones was astounding and the only other platform that mattered metric wise was Window PCs and it was a distant second.

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Jufu 8 points 3 years ago

Do you have any links to this research? Sounds super interesting

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AzPsycho 9 points 3 years ago

Not anymore but they gave the presentation years ago so it may be posted somewhere. The data was very fascinating but also exactly what someone in my field already knew. I enjoyed seeing an entire countries data set vs my single institution and was pleased to see that my local trends reflected those of a country not even on my continent. I see they have a covid education trend study up also so I am probably going to read some of that info this month since it isn't tainted by my local data biases.

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gornar 23 points 3 years ago

And apparently (was) almost 84% here in Canada!

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AbLEUtiSt 21 points 3 years ago

Not surprised, my personal browsing was almost entirely on mobile devices and 3rd party apps. My work browsing on computer is mainly for IT purposes and not logged in. Some subreddits are far better than the official support communities and they often come up early in google results.

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Littleborat 6 points 3 years ago

To me it feels like search, Google etc, got a lot worse in the last few years but if you add "reddit" to your search you get good hits because reddit is like a thread archive where your specific problem has been discussed.

For that reason I will not be able to get rid of reddit completely and for some niche communities on there.

I hope there will be a critical mass on here soon so that this may even be bigger than reddit.

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june 3 points 3 years ago

I came across my first instance of finding a solution on Reddit that’s been deleted. I support the user for doing it, but it’s also gonna make life a bit hard as that becomes more common.

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AliasVortex 4 points 3 years ago

Oh, for sure! Reddit was the only thing making Google searches tolerable. I have a feeling it's only going to get worse before it gets better. Lemmy seems to be growing rapidly though, so with any luck it'll become the go to site for searches.

In the meantime, have you heard of Archive.org? It's a giant archive of things on the internet, it's a phenomenal resource for deleted Reddit posts or comments (I've found that old.reddit links tend to work better because of how comments are loaded). Google's search cache is also handy (especially if no one thought to have the page you need archived, but Google keeps directing you to it). It's a fair bit faster than Archive.org and usually has what you're looking for if google directed you the the page, but it can be hit or miss for older content because it's less of an archive and more the last time the search engine looked at the page. CachedView.Com makes it super easy to check both and has been invaluable the last few weeks.

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ProximaChad 15 points 3 years ago

I could never get use to the desktop layout.

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saigot 16 points 3 years ago

I think you kinda need extensions to really make it work. New reddit was cancer. Old reddit with reddit enhancement suite and imagus (hover to show images) made the experience pretty awesome.

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Hutchpd 9 points 3 years ago

Old.reddit.com with Res is the way. But they seem to be breaking it slowly.

I noticed for example that chat stopped working recently. They really want you to use the new layout.

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vixian 13 points 3 years ago

not surprising, people have their phones on them much more often than their computers. Personally I browse reddit from my phone 95% of the time, only using desktop for the odd moderating duty.

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OngoGablogian 11 points 3 years ago

I believe it, when I first started using Reddit in 2008 it was almost entirely through desktop. By a few days ago, I had flipped to almost entirely using mobile. My habits changed a lot in 15 years

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leyland1989 10 points 3 years ago

Well, I couldn't use my work computer to browse Reddit.

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DanseMacabre 9 points 3 years ago

well reddit on desktop is completely unusable. even old reddit with RES is garbage. that’s why 3rd party clients were so important.

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Harpuajim 11 points 3 years ago

I guess I got comfortable with RES over the years because I rather enjoyed using it on my desktop.

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dan1101 2 points 3 years ago

I preferred desktop and the old Reddit layout, was really fast to do whatever I wanted.

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Alfi 8 points 3 years ago

Was*

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ptz 7 points 3 years ago

Well, at least losing 3PAs solves this problem:

spoiler

And I'd been on the toilet so long that my legs had fallen asleep

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kratoz29 7 points 3 years ago

I'm sure it won't affect them to get rid of 3rd party apps....

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TemporaryBoyfriend 6 points 3 years ago

WAS from users on mobile. Was.

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Captain_Nipples 5 points 3 years ago

Surprised it isn't more.

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WiseThat 8 points 3 years ago

It's probably damped by how absolutely dogshit the mobile web and official app versions are.

When I use it on my phone I access with old.reddit.com, as desktop and I'm not sure how those are being counted.

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PenguinTD 2 points 3 years ago

Same here, I am willing to deal with small phone and occasionally misclick. But not willing to deal with the spams from the new format.

But now it's all in the past, removed all my post and comments yesterday.(keep the account so if post gets restored I can run the delete again.)

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faltuuser 2 points 3 years ago

I would have thought that it was higher.

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adinfinitum 5 points 3 years ago

Just letting you know that you're posting everything multiple times. I assume it's related to timeouts

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faltuuser 2 points 3 years ago

Thanks. It seems Everything I posted yesterday got duplicated 1 billion times.

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faltuuser 1 point 3 years ago

I would have thought that it was higher.

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faltuuser 1 point 3 years ago

I would have thought that it was higher.

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faltuuser 1 point 3 years ago

I would have thought that it was higher.

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aloeha -2 points 3 years ago

LMAO

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