That's why I always buy after release and usually wait for some discounts. But I plan to buy BG3 even if it's not discounted at the winter sale but I think it is pretty obvious that this game is pretty good already.

As long as some youtuber with a broom-handle-up-his-ass expression in the thumbnail keeps promoting day 1 games to increase FOMO, people will continue to preorder AAA games that they mass produce.

In fairness, I hated rdr2 and don't really like the gta games because they're a bit too much "violent life simulator" vs "game" for me.

As such, the only thing I hated about CP2077 was the bugs, crashes, and balance issues. Admittedly, I loved how cheap I got it because I bought it during the early reputation crash. It was unplayable for a few weeks, but for $17? Damn.

Personally I really enjoy it. Phantom liberty (and the patch to the normal game) adds a new area that is basically a microcity in itself, with a really fun side story that even adds additional endings to the main game.

No story spoilers ahead:

The update also brings a lot of randomized content that helps making the city feel much more lively, for example you will encounter random gang shootouts or car chases, or if you pick on one gang enough they will hunt you down as well. The police is a lot more dangerous, and continued resistance will eventually earn you a visit from maxtac. They also got the city transit system working, you can ride by train from a to b if you want while enjoying the view.

Also, assuming you didn’t play at all since the 2.0 overhaul, they completely reworked the talent trees and skill paths, making them much more distinct and all around fun to play with. The loot and difficulty system is also overhauled, and will mostly scale to your level regardless of where you are in the story, giving much more freedom in what you want to do and when.

Then there is vehicle combat of course, with a wide range of armed vehicles to obtain, which is also pretty fun and useful.

Generally it feels much closer to what was promised. It might not be perfect, but it is in a fantastic state in my opinion, the only thing I really miss at this point is the holy grail of third person camera (with a working player model).

I am planning on playing the DLC and probably replay the full story. Yeah apart from main and side missions the world is dead. Haven't used mods but I doubt the open world will get any better or more enjoyable.

It was a solid 7/10 at launch and a clear 10/10 in the state it is in today. The new additions are fantastic and complete the experience imo.

I did a complete playthrough on release and still had fun. The game is still buggy, but it's definitely better than it was and I've had a good time on my second playthrough.

Exactly. If they released it this year, it could've contended for game of the year. Instead, it released in a buggy, unfinished state.

Release games when they're done, not when some exec or marketing person says it should release.

To me it looks good and has a few fun quests or sidequests. But overall i found it pretty boring. The driving is garbage, enemies are bullet sponges and once you get some upgrades there isn't even a point in fighting them anymore.

I liked the gameplay and environmental of Watch_Dogs 2 more (edit: on the latter, it's about how lively WD2 felt compared to 2077), but Cyberpunk 2077 is still solid. As someone else said, there's replay value to the different routes you can take. I'd definitely wait for the base game to go on sale though. I got mine for £25 and I think that's an alright price for it.

While I find that hard to believe, I'll take you at your word. As someone who has over 2k hours over the last three years, yes, it's fun.

That's fair, all choices merge back into three our four endings iirc, so yeah the meaningful choices part does fall flat on its face.

I'm not going to list them off, I recommend just going to look at the patch notes.

Police spawning. The entire akill tree. Wardrobe, divorcing the armor stats from appearance. It's a pretty drastically different game without the DLC from the product it was at launch.