What are you most excited when it comes to linux in 2024?

3 years ago by SherlockHawk to c/linux

For me it must be kde plasma 6 and the wayland driver for wine.

Edit: I made the question gendered by using the word guys. I've fixed my mistake.

MajorHavoc 109 points 3 years ago

It's the year of the Linux desktop! /s

But seriously, I think I'm going to buy a SteamDeck.

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lemmy_user_838586 36 points 3 years ago

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Webster 5 points 3 years ago

Just got a steam deck and love it. I also got the official dock and can't believe how bad it is. I have to unplug it and my TV half the time to get the dock to connect correctly. It works fine for a few days, then stops. I've had picture issues and audio issues and even issues with the deck right after disconnecting it.

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lemmy_user_838586 2 points 3 years ago

Yeah, same issues. I bought my dock during the summer steam sale and didn't use it much, but now that I''ve tried using it more I feel like I want to send it back and get a refund, but it might be too late. I keep hoping the issues will get fixed with firmware updates, but so far they haven't.

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MajorHavoc 3 points 3 years ago

Awesome. Thanks!

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Thwompthwomp 1 point 3 years ago

I completely agree. I bought one in the preorder days and was a bit nervous. It came in, and it was so much better than I thought. It works and it works well, and is fun to use. I’ve connected to a tv and done “real” work on it to boot. It is some hardware I highly recommend to anyone if they can afford it. The other cool thing is my whole library of steam games are there and still playable.

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MentalEdge 8 points 3 years ago

I already have the LCD, but the OLED has me seriously considering retiring it far earlier than I usually do with my electronics.

I've had a gaming laptop for years but I think I did more gaming on the deck in the first six months than I ever did on my laptop. The suspend mid-game, actually using it away from a power plug...

The Deck announcement made me try linux on my desktop again, too, just to see if Valve's claims about proton could be true... And I have yet to boot back into windows.

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asexualchangeling 3 points 3 years ago

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clif 8 points 3 years ago

I've been considering this too. I don't have much time at all to game but feel like maybe I'd do better with a portable than can stream to a TV.

I need to search up if they support all games or just those that have been ported. Surely it's more than what has been ported to Linux...

But my mouse and keyboard, hmm

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noodlejetski 17 points 3 years ago

https://www.protondb.com/

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RiikkaTheIcePrincess 8 points 3 years ago

Protondb is a hugely useful site (okay, maybe not that huge but it's great)! There's WineHQ for Wine but it's kinda... a little creaky, if you know what I mean. Doesn't seem to get much attention.

Protondb, on the other paw, has lots of useful info from a quick-and-simple "how likely is it to work?" indicator to "Here's what I had to do to make it flawless" reports from users. VERY useful! wiggles emphatically! (also it splits reports between PC and Deck)

Oh, also GloriousEggroll's Proton fork is kinda great, for critters who like to faff about with stuff as I do: https://github.com/... Dunno if that's of any use on Deck though.

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Cralder 6 points 3 years ago

That's what the "verified for deck" is for in steam. In my experience every game works that fulfills these criteria:

A. Is not one of a few competitive multiplayer games that have decided to not allow Linux players to play. Among these are Destiny 2 and PUBG for example.

B. Does not require mouse and keyboard (and even then the touchpads and steam input sometimes makes it work anyways)

C. Is not VR (for obvious reasons)

If you are unsure you can also check protondb which someone else linked.

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clif 1 point 3 years ago

I guess that shows how long it's been since I opened steam because I'd not stumbled across that tag. Thanks bud

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kratoz29 3 points 3 years ago

I swear I'll too this 2024 hopefully a newer release doesn't appear all of sudden (like just the Retro is Pocket 4 and 4 Pro happened right now, at least for me).

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CsXGF8uzUAOh6fqV 100 points 3 years ago

Nothing. Which is great: everything already works for me. Any improvements and extra market share is cool. But I'm vibing already.

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andrew0 56 points 3 years ago

It's amazing that Linux gaming is becoming a thing that's better sometimes than Windows gaming (minus the getting banned part in some games). I also like that AMD is making some big pushes on open source drivers, plus their ROCm open-source alternative to CUDA.

This is a great time for Linux users! :)

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cybersandwich 3 points 3 years ago

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azvasKvklenko 52 points 3 years ago

More Wayland adoption, more protocols and desktop portals, color management and HDR getting closer, even better gaming

NVIDIA getting its shit together maybe?

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asexualchangeling 21 points 3 years ago

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KSPAtlas 2 points 3 years ago

They just broke xwayland on my gpu so i've been forced to return to x11, bit of a backwards move

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azvasKvklenko 3 points 3 years ago

Gosh, NVIDIA literally pays just one guy to do the entire Linux support

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milkjug 6 points 3 years ago

At this stage I suspect its just 3 kids in a trenchcoat.

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KISSmyOS 5 points 3 years ago

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herrvogel 2 points 3 years ago

I think the teams that are responsible for bringing proper HDR support are moving slow and waiting for HDR to get its shit together, as right now it's a poorly standardized dumpster fire of various protocols and definitions and implementations. It's still a bit of a pain in windows and macos despite the fact that official support exists already.

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Atemu 1 point 3 years ago

NVIDIA getting its shit together maybe?

Given the recent pace of NVK development we probably won't have to rely on that for much longer in 2024.

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d3Xt3r 46 points 3 years ago

Plasma 6, but just as excited for kernel 6.7 featuring:

bcachefs
AMD Seamless Boot (for flicker-free streamlined booting)
Scheduler improvements for better responsiveness/performance
IO_uring FUTEX support for better performance
More FUTEX2 work for potentially better gaming performance
Better write performance for eMMC chips (great for many IoT boards)
TCP network performance improvements
DisplayPort Alt Mode 2.1 support over Type-C

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acockworkorange 2 points 3 years ago

What about bcachefs excites you? Like, what does it offer that ext4, Btrfs and zfs don't?

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d3Xt3r 6 points 3 years ago

Initial benchmarks show better performance than btrfs (at least for some workloads), but more importanty, I like that it offers tiered/cache storage - so you can use a fast and small drive (NVMe) to speed up a slow and bigger drive (HDD). You can do that with ZFS as well of course, but it doesn't have the massive RAM requirements. Also it's much more easier to set up and configure in comparison.

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bastion 4 points 3 years ago

It's like btrfs, but faster, and less prone to data loss.

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acockworkorange 0 points 3 years ago

Btrfs is data loss prone? OpenSUSE Tumbleweed uses it as default, I assumed it was good enough.

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umbrella 0 points 3 years ago

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meteokr 3 points 3 years ago

Its got a closer feature set to ZFS (tiered storage is going to be huge for me personally), but a much friendlier license. ZFS's licensing drama solidly convinced me not to touch it with a ten meter pole. BTRFS isn't bad as well, I currently use it, but tiered storage is excellent. Was the only reason I used to consider ZFS, but becachefs is getting to have my cake and eat it too.

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cosmicrookie 43 points 3 years ago

Ps: isn't 'guys' gender nutral, similar to 'dude'?

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PseudoSpock 10 points 3 years ago

Dude!

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acockworkorange 1 point 3 years ago

What about dudette? /s

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PseudoSpock 1 point 3 years ago

I'm Tom Dudette, and I'll leave the light on for ya. (guitar outro...)

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arty -7 points 3 years ago

The classical answer to a male is: do you sleep with guys?

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ConstantPain 8 points 3 years ago

I don't remember the grammatical names, but there's a difference between using "guys" in your phrase and the way it's used in the title. So it can be gender neutral depending on context.

The same as in "All men are equal", and "Do you like men or women?".

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arty 3 points 3 years ago

I guess having to explain this is a good enough reason to avoid this allegedly gender-neutral word in gender-neutral contexts

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ConstantPain 2 points 3 years ago

Only for people that did not made through elementary school.

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moomoomoo309 3 points 3 years ago

Heh. "Guy" has some interesting history. It originally referred to Guy Fawkes, because that was his name. Then it came to mean any person, gender neutral, then it became any man, now gendered, but the neutral definition never went away, so we have both meanings floating around still, but the original meaning, an effigy of Guy Fawkes, died.

(I skipped a few steps in there because they're not relevant between guy Fawkes and any person)

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umbrella 2 points 3 years ago

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arty 0 points 3 years ago

Sure, and this only strengthens the point of the counter question

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loanrangerofpeanuts 40 points 3 years ago

I’d have to say I’m eager to see an official release of the rust cosmic desktop from system76. I know it’s going to be fairly bare bones and I know you can already download it and play around with it. I’m just excited for another option.

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Delusion6903 2 points 3 years ago

This.

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pastermil 37 points 3 years ago

SDDM Wayland Greeter, to have 100% wayland on KDE

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iloverocks 2 points 3 years ago

I'm currently using greetd-tui but I would instantly switch over to sddm if the Wayland session actually works. (I use hyprland as my window manager )

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gnuplusmatt 1 point 3 years ago

Fedora 39 KDE/Kinoite already has this

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pastermil 1 point 3 years ago

SDDM with Wayland greeter? AFAIK It's not even finished on the git master branch...

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priapus 4 points 3 years ago

It's not finished, but it works on the current release. https://wiki.archlinux.org/...

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gnuplusmatt 1 point 3 years ago

its not in any stable release of sddm, but its one of the exceptions Fedora makes for git releases in its stable branch. KDESIG devs were desperate to get an end to end wayland experience happening for the KDE spin.

https://fedoraproject.org/...

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ExLisper 33 points 3 years ago

Nothing. 6.6.6 was already released.

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paradiso 6 points 3 years ago

Scary number

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LunaCtld 31 points 3 years ago

GIMP 3.0

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YoorWeb 9 points 3 years ago

Is this actually happening in this decade?

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possiblylinux127 8 points 3 years ago

Unlikely

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funkyfarmington 31 points 3 years ago

Seeing m$ lose a little more market share.

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vsh -3 points 3 years ago

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dinckelman 31 points 3 years ago

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const_void 3 points 3 years ago

What are you most excited for in Plasma 6?

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dinckelman 5 points 3 years ago

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MyNameIsRichard 30 points 3 years ago

I'm looking forward to Plasma 6

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GnuLinuxDude 21 points 3 years ago

Plasma 6 for sure. I'm a Gnome user waiting with bated breath to see if it actually delivers the goods.

Always hoping for Nvidia to stop being bullshit. Definitely not buying from them again.

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juli 2 points 3 years ago

You can test it today. The feature freeze has happened already, thus nothing will change until the release

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GnuLinuxDude 1 point 3 years ago

I don’t really know how to install something like a beta version of KDE, especially without messing up things on my own computer.

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juli -1 points 3 years ago

With an immutable system you can't fuck things up. I guess you aren't on one. In that case, use boxes and install it in a vm :)

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const_void 1 point 3 years ago

What Plasma 6 feature has you most excited?

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GnuLinuxDude 5 points 3 years ago

None in particular. Just the totality of the changes. Many of them are small default changes or usability changes, but when taken together it sounds like a nice, somewhat overdue bundle.

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PseudoSpock 1 point 3 years ago

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Thwompthwomp 1 point 3 years ago

Not OP, but I’m excited about the baked in tiling. Nervous about Wayland as I think I have some stuff that will break, but we’ll see.

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aarRJaay 21 points 3 years ago

2024 - The Year of The Linux Desktop!!!

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minnix 21 points 3 years ago

Probably true convergence between mobile and desktop, where your linux phone is powerful enough to be your only computing device. You would only need something like a lapdock (basically a laptop without the guts) and instead of a cable connecting the two, a slot maybe somewhere within the keyboard that your phone slips into. Maybe this exists already, I don't know.

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NiaTheCat 17 points 3 years ago

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lemmy_user_838586 16 points 3 years ago

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cybersandwich 4 points 3 years ago

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Secret300 1 point 3 years ago

I feel like we won't get it for ARM devices but with Google/Android going in to support RISC-V I believe we'll see more risc phones and more developers will happily hack away at a risc-v device.

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MentalEdge 4 points 3 years ago

Asus EEE Pad Transformer TF101

That whole line of products was before it's time, I really wanted one of the phone/tablet combos, but man were they expensive.

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Secret300 3 points 3 years ago

This is what I'm most excited about. I started using gnome mobile on my OnePlus 6. It's still not there yet but it feels better than phosh, Few more bugs tho. I'm so excited for it and what you mentioned is the future I dream about.

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refreeze 3 points 3 years ago

How is hardware support these days on OnePlus 6? I'm close to buying one for Linux but keep waiting thinking that a newer alternative might appear.

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Secret300 3 points 3 years ago

Not as good as I hoped. I'd wait. Wifi works, didn't try putting a SIM in yet but the gryo doesn't work so there's no auto rotate and scaling is off. It's either too big or too small. I don't think the GPS works either but I'll have to test it.

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fennek182 19 points 3 years ago

HDR playback

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the_q 18 points 3 years ago

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CaptDust 4 points 3 years ago

Very excited to try cosmic

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the_q 0 points 3 years ago

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ominouslemon 18 points 3 years ago

BSODs

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Strit 2 points 3 years ago

That's already here with systemd 255 which released recently.

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ominouslemon 5 points 3 years ago

That's the joke

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umbrella 0 points 3 years ago

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PseudoSpock 1 point 3 years ago

😂

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Cossty 18 points 3 years ago

Cosmic

Budgie 11 (idk if 2024)

VanillaOS 2

SteamOS 3 for desktop (idk when, they are probably waiting until the new open source nvidia driver is mature enough. Maybe they are waiting on wine running without xwayland too... idk

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d3Xt3r 6 points 3 years ago

SteamOS 3 for desktop (idk when, they are probably waiting until the new open source nvidia driver is mature enough. Maybe they are waiting on wine running without xwayland too... idk

You don't have to wait for that, when we've got ChimeraOS and Bazzite that work very well, and are more up-to-date and flexible compared to SteamOS.

I'm running Bazzite on both my laptop and desktop and it's fantastic.

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Cossty 3 points 3 years ago

Bazzite looks interesting, I might check it out. But I would still rather use SteamOS when it comes out. I like stable more, than up to date. And bazzite has so much stuffed into it and I wouldn't use 90% of those features.

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d3Xt3r 3 points 3 years ago

As a gamer, you should like up-to-date more, becuse that generally translates to better performance and better compatibility with games. Things like FUTEX2, IO_URING FUTEX support, HDR, Wayland stuff and so many things are a work-in-progress, that you'd want to be on the latest and greatest otherwise you'd be missing out.

Also, stability isn't really an issue with Bazzite since it's an immutable OS - your updates happen in the cloud for starters, so you won't get any "bad" updates. But on the ocassion that you do, you can in fact easily rollback to the previous image from GRUB. You can also pin a known "good" image so that it's always available.

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Cossty 3 points 3 years ago

I know where you are coming from but I don't think it's that important especially not for me, Iam gaming right now on Linux Mint without a problem. And wasn't steamdeck/steamos the first one who supported HDR?

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GFGJewbacca 2 points 3 years ago

I've been running Fedora 39 on my ASUS gaming laptop because it's the only OS that natively supports the utility to deal with the discreet graphics card. I was thinking about using bazzite for the next gaming desktop I build. What do you think about it? I've been using Nobara on my Surface Pro 4, but I can't update using dnf anymore because it would alter some protected drivers, and I don't want that issue with another distro.

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nayminlwin 17 points 3 years ago

Better ARM and RISC-V support

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Secret300 16 points 3 years ago

I'm excited for convergence and Linux mobile.

Wayland becoming the default for every DE. X11 needs to go.

I'm hoping more market share will mean more applications come to Linux and better support for hardware. Cough cough Nvidia

Bcachefs also looks interesting but I need to look into it more.

And I'm also excited for all the things I don't know about and didn't even think about showing up

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sxan 15 points 3 years ago

bcachefs in mainline. It's going to be fun.

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KarnaSubarna 15 points 3 years ago

Fully Mature Wayland implementation in Gnome.

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Pantherina 5 points 3 years ago

It isnt?

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dario 14 points 3 years ago

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Presi300 14 points 3 years ago

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Holzkohlen 12 points 3 years ago

Not much. Plasma 6 and any wayland improvements I guess. Apart from that maybe FSR 3 frame generation, but that's not linux specific.

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mactan 12 points 3 years ago

wine Wayland driver

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theshatterstone54 10 points 3 years ago

Work in Cinnamon on Wayland, Plasma 6, XFCE 4.20 for Wayland support, WINE on Wayland, The Fancy Hyprland-like effects coming to Qtile Wayland, basically everything Wayland.

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eugenia 10 points 3 years ago

Linux will eventually make it seriously to the desktop in the next few years, possibly going as high as 15%-20% of the userbase (in my country Greece it's already at 9%). But only because MS is going to destroy its Windows base by making it subscription etc.

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pathief 3 points 3 years ago

Check your sources, friend.

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Unyieldingly 9 points 3 years ago

Nvidia Opensource Drivers, NVK etc with Wayland support, and bcachefs.

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refreeze 9 points 3 years ago

Continued increase in Nix adoption. It seems like 2023 saw a real shift in favour of immutable solutions in general and Nix in particular.

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Unsafe -3 points 3 years ago

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beta_tester 7 points 3 years ago

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meteokr 6 points 3 years ago

Of course, those are discreet projects that can be picked out when there is a use case for them. Discreet solutions to problems is the hallmark of Unix systems isn't it? Any distro maintainer can choose to enable these if they want, as is the admin.

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meteokr 3 points 3 years ago

Rebuild after every config change

This is pretty much the whole point of using nix. The system is declarative, so it rebuilds the parts that changed, because all changes are imperitive and atomic. If it didn't rebuild your sshd config and restart the service when you changed the accepted key types, what would even be the point? Coming from a huge ansible background nix feels like ansible on steroids.

FHS incompatibility

Why does this matter? Nix manages all your system binaries and PATHs just like any other distro, so why would it matter where they are kept? Programs like type/which still work exactly the same, and nix imports your dependencies exactly as described in the build scripts when you need to compile something locally.

Its honestly refreshing to see a distro really pushing innovation like this by taking advantage of everything Unix systems are built with and doing something this cool.

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savvywolf 8 points 3 years ago

Now that they're working on it, I'm interested in seeing how well Wayland in Cinnamon works. Hopefully it can fix some tearing and stuttering issues in my mixed refresh rate multimonitor setup.

Will also be interesting to see how the landscape with Windows goes, especially considering I'm picking up traces of discontent in their ranks. I think Valve's actions will probably cause them to sit up and pay attention.

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Syudagye 8 points 3 years ago

native wine under wayland ! :D

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phoenixz 8 points 3 years ago

Finally, KDE is going back to having some nice bling after slowly removing it for years.

If now they can make kwin stable, I'd be so happy

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RustyOperator 8 points 3 years ago

Definitely COSMIC DE, can't wait to check out all the cool stuff they've been doing!

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priapus 8 points 3 years ago

Cosmic DE definitely. HDR too

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HouseWolf 7 points 3 years ago

I'm still pretty new to Linux so I'm finding new stuff all the time, I've been very happy with EndeavourOS but I am planning to switch to vanilla Arch when Plasma 6 fully drops. There are other distros that have caught my attention, they're just abit beyond my skill level currently.

Only thing I'm really hoping for is improvements to Nvidia (Yes I will buy AMD next time I get the chance, I built this PC before I had any intention of using Linux)

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radioactiveradio 7 points 3 years ago

Kde plasma 6

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voidMainVoid 6 points 3 years ago

What's exciting about Plasma 6?

I'm a Plasma user, and I can't think of anything I want them to change.

Okay, it would be cool if there were more plasmoids. That's about it.

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azvasKvklenko 13 points 3 years ago

It’s not a revolution, but theres a ton of small features and quality of life improvements, but the big improvement is much more mature Wayland session with improved DPI scaling (fractional scaling), kwin crash recovery (robustness), improved latency in games, smoother cursor, UX improvements (I’m really happy they simplified some of historical UI clusterfucks), floating panel with intelihide and a whole lot more.

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Pantherina 5 points 3 years ago

Plasma 5 has a loooot of bugs. I admire people that never find them. I reported like 60 already, and currently the fixes are only there in Plasma6.

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TheGrandNagus 3 points 3 years ago

More stability, better Wayland support, better UI without crazy inconsistent padding everywhere.

Plasma 6 might be what makes me give it another chance. The lack of visual consistency and the bugs were what was keeping me away, but they're fixing a lot of that.

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const_void 3 points 3 years ago

That's what I'm wondering. I keep seeing all this excitement for it but I'm running the beta and it just seems like a buggy version of Plasma 5. There aren't any major new features and there are even less plasmoids due to an API change. Any time I ask someone what feature they're waiting for they never give a clear answer. I think most are expecting something bigger because it's a major version number.

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LeFantome 2 points 3 years ago

Full Wayland support would be nice.

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morethanevil 6 points 3 years ago

I am waiting for Plasma 6 too. Maybe it will ship with Fedora 40 🤔

I hope so

And I am looking forward to Ubuntu server 24.04

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I_like_cats 6 points 3 years ago

I'm hoping for COSMIC to come out. It looks so promising and the fact that they implemented the panels using wlr-layer-shell is so great. I think more desktop environments should do this for interoperability

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the16bitgamer 6 points 3 years ago

Oh I know this answer! Not using Windows, right?

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nickwitha_k 6 points 3 years ago

I'm looking forward to hardware and firmware hacking on a Framework laptop.

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ishigami_san 6 points 3 years ago

More NixOS!!!!

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highduc 4 points 3 years ago

Guix ftw!

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ishigami_san 1 point 3 years ago

Definitely more Guix, esp. as now Guix is available to NixOS

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foiledAgain 6 points 3 years ago

If Fedora would stop requiring reboots for daily updates that would be great. I might as well use windows for this kind of BS

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Peps 4 points 3 years ago

You can just turn it off. It is the 'offline updates' setting in the updater settings.

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Blisterexe 2 points 3 years ago

Til, thanks!

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bier 5 points 3 years ago

zfs raidz expansion

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Pixel 5 points 3 years ago

Bcachefs, love COW files. I wish all file systems had it even if it naively copied the whole file on first write. Sort of a write safe hard link.

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highduc 5 points 3 years ago

I hope Valve will make the Index VR work again after breaking it with the 2.x updates in October :')

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ben 5 points 3 years ago

Better mainline support for RK3588 SoC

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const_void 4 points 3 years ago

What Plasma 6 feature are you waiting for?

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d3Xt3r 6 points 3 years ago

For me:

Ability for a panel to stay visible but dodge windows, for a dock-like behavior.
Better/customisable touchpad gestures (rumored)
HDR support on Wayland
Simultaneous password and fingerprint authentication
Decoupling of icons from the Plasma theme (so ALL icons are changed when you apply a systemwide icon theme)

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hottari 4 points 3 years ago

Nothing much really. MGLRU was finally added this year to fix long-standing kernel OOM issues. Maybe some TPM stuff in systemd from Lennart. Maybe the pace of immutables will increase but who knows. Despite the occasional regressions am pretty happy with Linux.

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zaphodb2002 4 points 3 years ago

Getting my Pinephone Pro up and running, and getting away from Google forever, finally. Also I'm gonna make the jump from Arch to either Gentoo and/or Guix, I think.

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KseniyaK 0 points 3 years ago

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ownsauce 3 points 3 years ago

Moving beyond linux mint to other distros so I can learn more and have a more customizable linux experience.

I got fed up with windows 10, and then windows 11 pushed me away from ever wanting to use windows again.
Linux mint has been fun but its a bit too barebones when it comes to customization ( though that's one of its strengths since its so easy and straightforward for a longtime windows user to move over to linux)

Also I've had a bunch of trouble with Nvidia drivers and playing new games in 2023, so I'll probably buy/build a new linux desktop in late 2024 on AMD CPU/GPU.

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AlijahTheMediocre 3 points 3 years ago

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Linkerbaan 3 points 3 years ago

Hope Wayland gets more support and Fractional Scaling will finally work well.

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emly_sh_ 3 points 3 years ago

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pineapplelover 2 points 3 years ago

What's so special about plasma 6? Currently on plasma 5 and like it. Don't really know too much it can improve on besides reliability and the desktop being more usable and easy to use.

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GustavoM 2 points 3 years ago

Apparently theres a "better wayland" already as is -- forgot its name now. I'd love to see it overcoming both wayland and Xorg.

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mtw 2 points 3 years ago

Arcan maybe?

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GustavoM 1 point 3 years ago

Oh...Arcan. Yep, that one.

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Mandy 2 points 3 years ago

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ZeroHora 2 points 3 years ago

Freesync for Gnome

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jollyrogue 1 point 3 years ago

Vanity license plates! 😄

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jollyrogue 1 point 3 years ago

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chitak166 0 points 3 years ago

Just using it like I've always been with as little change as possible.

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makeasnek 0 points 3 years ago

Personally I'm excited to see Flatpak become more widespread and usable, fixing some "rough around the edges" aspects of it. I've been using it quite a bit this past few months and I think it presents a really coherent, simple vision for how to do package distribution that solves a lot of pain points. The sandboxing functionality is critical and easy to use, I don't need every app to have access to everything in my home directory.

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tsonfeir -1 points 3 years ago

What are women most excited for?

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odium -1 points 3 years ago

Why are you bringing gender into something that doesn't need any gendering?

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voidMainVoid 12 points 3 years ago

It's in the title.