So apparently youtube, or its comment system, is against the fediverse

3 years ago by macniel to c/fediverse

Over the time new youtube videos crop up talking about reddit, twitch and twitter issues. And in those comment sections I always like to spread the word of alternatives (like the fediverse). But whenever I do, those comments get quietly removed even though they seem to be posted in the first place.

Whenever I try to add further details, for example name dropping lemmy/bin pixelfeed peertube and mastodon, to previously posted comments those error out and gets deleted entirely.

Anyone else made that observation?

chonglibloodsport 83 points 3 years ago

I wouldn’t worry about it too much. YouTube comments are the absolute bottom of the barrel in terms of quality engagement. They mostly exist to give people a place to vent when the video creator annoys them!

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klyde 10 points 3 years ago

I miss the old YouTube comments. Just like Reddit. Nothing of use anymore and if there is you have to scroll for ages to find it.

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LemmynySnicket 4 points 3 years ago

Are you kidding? How are you going to say that with great comments like random "RonPaul2012"s everywhere?

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CrypticCoffee 82 points 3 years ago

Open source alternatives are a threat. They cannot control information there. I bet all of them are blacklisted.

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expatriado 16 points 3 years ago

I'm not expert, but I think among all social media, YT would be the safest against the Fediverse, due to the massive amount of storage and bandwidth it requires.

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CrypticCoffee 19 points 3 years ago

Definitely the hardest to compete against, but if people come here, they will become aware of alternatives like Odysee and peer tube.

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Trekman10 11 points 3 years ago

I'd love to use PeerTube, if channels I liked moved there.

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Drunemeton 44 points 3 years ago

I tried commenting on two videos yesterday and included links to topic-related websites, and they were deleted.

I checked the TOS and they caution about including inappropriate links in replies, but those weren’t that.

It seems the channel can include links but users can’t. Haven’t tested it much past that point either.

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DmMacniel 16 points 3 years ago

yeah I didn't even link any of them, just mentioned the joinfediverse.wiki if at all was enough to get it buried. I really dislike their transparency about what is allowed and what isn't.

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JoCrichton 19 points 3 years ago

That would be recognized as a link

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CrypticCoffee 10 points 3 years ago

You mean Lemmy dot world. Does that get filterered?

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DmMacniel 5 points 3 years ago

I don't know if that would get filtered out, but I assume it would since it has "lemmy" in the text.

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CrypticCoffee 7 points 3 years ago

What do they have against motorhead. They clearly don't like to gamble...

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Usernameblankface 2 points 3 years ago

Writing the exact link will make it a link, just like it did here. Then that link gets recognized by the filter and taken out. Gotta go joinfediverse dot wiki or something like "just Google the Fediverse"

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Kotking 6 points 3 years ago

@Drunemeton @DmMacniel Nope, as someone who upload gameplay videos can tell you, you need to verification yourself before they will allow to post links in description. So all links provided by Youtuber are because they are trustworthy or just gone through the verification process. I am lazy to do and my country is not supported for monetization so no deal for me to go through = no outside links in description. You can try it for yourself.

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Drunemeton 2 points 3 years ago

How does one verify themselves? I have a Google account that I use and I just checked the settings in YouTube. No “verification” option was listed.

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Kotking 2 points 3 years ago

@Drunemeton https://support.google.com/... and here googled how to put links for new creators guide https://influencermarketinghub.com/....

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Drunemeton 1 point 3 years ago

Perfect. Thank you!

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iAmTheTot 2 points 3 years ago

Many comments with links will get anyway without checking as a matter of precaution. In general, you just shouldn't post links even if you know they're safe.

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Call_Me_Maple 25 points 3 years ago

YouTube comments have always been a veiled lie. There's some sort of algorithm at work not to mention the dislike button on comments just doesn't work. I wouldn't put too much thought behind it, if anything I'd say discussing it on Reddit/Twitter is a better way to get heard.

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DmMacniel 3 points 3 years ago

True other media would be better to get heard, but when youtube users geniuenly asks about alternatives, why not try to provide them.

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Call_Me_Maple 2 points 3 years ago

You do as you see fit, I'm just saying there's probably a better use of your time.

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DmMacniel 2 points 3 years ago

You are probably right with that :)

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JoCrichton 19 points 3 years ago

Don’t post links Otherwise comments get deleted very quick

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madjo 7 points 3 years ago

Do you add links in your YouTube comments? If so, then that's the reason. Don't add links in YouTube comments.

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DmMacniel 5 points 3 years ago

I didn't, simply mentioned those alternatives.

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madjo 4 points 3 years ago

That's really weird then

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CookieJarObserver 6 points 3 years ago

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Pregnenolone 4 points 3 years ago

I have never read a YouTube comment in my whole life that has ever demonstrated any value to anyone or anything ever

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Crackhappy 4 points 3 years ago

We could all give traffic to this video to help. Make sure to like it as well as watch it all the way through. No, I am not in any way affiliated with that channel.

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Crackhappy 4 points 3 years ago

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k0mprssd 3 points 3 years ago

i noticed this too. i watched multiple videos about how big tech is ruining the internet and i always comment telling folks to come to the fediverse, but whem i came back later to check on it i noticed my comment just want there. maybe a bug or maybe google is trying to stifle the open internet?

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manitcor 2 points 3 years ago

there is very likely a bit of collusion going on here among the large social companies.

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Silviecat44 1 point 3 years ago

Lol take off your tinfoil hat

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manitcor 2 points 3 years ago

no

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hiyaaaaa23 2 points 3 years ago

Very possibly just an over enthusiastic anti spam as others have mentioned

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thegiddystitcher 2 points 3 years ago

I'm not saying this is untrue, it may only apply to certain combinations of words or maybe even only channels over a certain size. But I've been chatting to a couple people over on YT about Mastodon the last few days, and nothing untoward happened to our convos.

That said, a lot of the time perfectly normal comments get flagged as spam for literally no reason at all, so it could just be general incompetence rather than malicious targeting.

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felixculpa 1 point 3 years ago

Such news further radicalizes me against GAFAM and motivates me to embrace open source alternatives even more. Thank you, GAFAM, for destroying yourselves.

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NecoArcKbinAccount 1 point 3 years ago

Youtube removes posts with links in them, try posting without them and the comment should stay up.

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Silverseren 2 points 3 years ago

Yeah, that's always been the problem and it's really annoying when getting into a discussion (or argument) on a scientific topic and you can't link to sources to debunk claims.

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VanillaGorilla 0 points 3 years ago

Oh god, I can't even imagine trying to argue over a scientific topic on YouTube. I hate the commenting system and the are so many trolls and idiots.

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1chemistdown 0 points 3 years ago

Do not try to reason/argue with people who did not reason themselves into their view point. The most successful way to get peoples views to change is having a conversation that they lead and your gently steer.

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genoxidedev1 1 point 3 years ago

The spez and Elon Muskler cucks do not contain themselves to only Reddit threads

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LEDZeppelin 1 point 3 years ago

Always has been 👩‍🚀🔫👩‍🚀

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Drunemeton 1 point 3 years ago

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tallwookie -1 points 3 years ago

they're competing platforms - of course those comments are going to get deleted.

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ItsaB3AR 2 points 3 years ago

How does Lemmy or Mastadon compete with YouTube?

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DmMacniel 2 points 3 years ago

PeerTube would be indirect competition with YouTube.

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ItsaB3AR 1 point 3 years ago

That is fair, just odd to banish all mention of FOSS or federated services. If it is what they are doing, they don't want people getting that kind of mindset I suppose.

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DmMacniel 1 point 3 years ago

It simply struck me as odd today; dunno if they are constantly doing this.

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zelifcam -1 points 3 years ago

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zelifcam -3 points 3 years ago

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DmMacniel 4 points 3 years ago

I can't give any proof since I didn't expect this to happen in the firstplace. If it would I would have screencapped it for sure.

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foxmoss 1 point 3 years ago

speculative fear helps no one

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zelifcam -4 points 3 years ago

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zelifcam -5 points 3 years ago

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