This is probably an old meme. I use Linux as a dedicated gaming OS, macOS for everything else except when Linux is already booted or nothing is and I want to do something quickly.
Octopus1348 71 points 3 years ago
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JayleneSlide 5 points 3 years ago
In my case, Inventor and AutoCAD. I hate AutoDesk with the fury of a thousand suns, but FreeCAD just isn't stable enough.
Oh, and currently needing .NET automatic source generation (long story), which is very difficult to develop on anything other than Windows.
Octopus1348 3 points 3 years ago
Because I just prefer macOS more. And Safari is good.
cyberpunk007 5 points 3 years ago
I use Windows only when a certain game has a quirk in Linux. Everything else is Linux. Video editing, photo editing, gaming, browsing, etc
camelbeard 25 points 3 years ago
I kind of really dislike the notion that you only use Linux because you are too poor for Apple.
I don't use Apple because I don't like to be stuck in a walled garden where a company decides what's best for me.
I know it's just a meme, but I think too many people actually think Linux is somehow inferior to Apple (MacOS) while I think it's the other way around.
okamiueru 16 points 3 years ago
Also. MacOS is absolute garbage. I've used it for 4 months now, and it pisses me off how inconsistent it is, and poorly designed and written. Two days wasted because of an almost bricked laptop because the monitor was set to 60Hz while installing an update. Just think about that.
I also had the misfortune of booting into windows after changing a motherboard. It was an absolute shit show there too, with broken drivers. Two hours of debugging. Had to use a long ethenet cable to even start fixing it, a flashback to a Linux experience I had in 2007.
Same system in Linux? Not a single second spent. WiFi drivers, microcode. Everything worked fine. Only thing necessary was fixing the grub/mbr partition that Windows decided to write over, on a separate drive. But that's also Microsoft being shit.
People just don't know how much more usable Linux is these days. Especially for power users. You can do so many things, so easily, that either works out of the box, or you can do with simple scripting. The only issue is software availability, but that too is mostly a thing of the past, and not really a fault of the OS.
greencactus 6 points 3 years ago
Yes, I agree. Just holy cactus, MacOS is just so bad these days. The inconsistency us driving me nuts. Why do the windows you open with the "help" menus inside of apps have small buttons? Why do some apps (e.g. Music) have a Search entry on the left side, and why do so have it on the left? Why do we still have tons of icons for system apps (Photo Booth, I'm looking at you) who have been programmed in a time where there have been dinosaurs around and seem to have never changed? ... And so on. Like honestly, MacOS is so much better that Windows (which admittedly isn't hard), but when I open up my good ol' Fedora I dont have the feeling that I see a new shiny operating system, and when I click on a wrong button I am in the 1990-s again. Or 2050-s. Or God knows where. Linux has its unique set of challenges, but I fully agree that the notion that "MacOS is better than the rest" just isn't true anymore. Maybe it was, when Linux distributions were worse and there was more money put into bugfixing OS releases. But not anymore.
nsfw_alt_2023 2 points 3 years ago
You’re confusing iOS, where you are in a walled garden, with macOS, where you can just do whatever the hell you want (There’s a recovery partition you can boot to where you can disable just about every bit of security that’s not hardware much like booting to grub in Linux)
camelbeard 0 points 3 years ago
You're right, although I wouldn't be surprised that at some point MacOS will have a mandatory app store to protect you.
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victorz -1 points 3 years ago
snap windows to the edge of their screens
While it's not a feature out of the box, there is software to add this functionality to macOS. But... same on Linux. You need to install that software if you want the feature. (Gnome/i3/other choice with this functionality.) So 🤷♂️
dustyData 1 point 3 years ago
The most popular software to do that is proprietary and you have to buy it. For Apple you are only a demi-sentient wallet and they are constantly trying to dry you up. I hate that with a passion.
cyberpunk007 12 points 3 years ago
Proton is so fucking good these days
Landless2029 6 points 3 years ago
I'm close to switching to Linux with proton
CosmicCleric 2 points 3 years ago
Bottles is great, and it puts links in for you into Steam, so you can launch the games directly from inside the Steam client.
firecat -23 points 3 years ago
Private servers not official Microsoft ones you login on the game. A server that isn’t connected by Microsoft organization in the Minecraft community. That’s the private server im talking about.
Metz 32 points 3 years ago
I play Minecraft without any problem on:
- Local LAN Game
- Local Private Server (Forge mostly).
- Online Private Server. either my own or from others.
- Official Internet Server
No idea what problems you seem to have but Minecraft works 100% perfect on Linux.
Secret300 9 points 3 years ago
Yeah nah I host my own Minecraft server and you're just wrong. I've used multiple server softwares as well that have nothing to do with Microsoft. Are you talking about bedrock edition maybe?
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i_dont_want_to 8 points 3 years ago
Java version is the easiest to run on Linux. I have seen that people have gotten Bedrock to work but it looks a lot harder to get running and has more limitations.
Trainguyrom 6 points 3 years ago
Java is famously cross-platform. It even means you can run a Minecraft server on Arm64 without issue. I currently have a heavily modded Minecraft server hosted on an Ampere Alta VPS without a single hitch
turbowafflz 8 points 3 years ago
If the DRM or anticheat needs low enough level access that it won't run in wine I don't think I really want it running on my computer either way.
CosmicCleric 4 points 3 years ago
most mmo
I play WoW, SWTOR, and New World just fine.
Which MMOs were you thinking about?
reddithalation 1 point 3 years ago
minecraft (java, not sure about bedrock) on linux is flawless, private servers work exactly as they do on windows.
BoastfulDaedra -3 points 3 years ago
Cool Edge Lord points, bruh.
superduperenigma 128 points 3 years ago
Do you fear God?
Yes -> TempleOS
CheshireSnake 43 points 3 years ago
In puberty? Hannah Montana Linux.
Kim Jong Un is god? Red Star OS. There's a Linux distro for everyone.
BosnianCevap 7 points 3 years ago
Are you sus?
Yes --> AmogOS
pewgar_seemsimandroid 2 points 3 years ago
catgirl? UWUNTU
deathmetal27 21 points 3 years ago
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Duamerthrax 10 points 3 years ago
Do you make a furry comic from the 90's?
Yes -> Amiga
Duamerthrax 1 point 3 years ago
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BambiDiego 75 points 3 years ago
Are you rich?
Are you bad with money?
SquirtleHermit 22 points 3 years ago
Just because you're bad with money does not mean you can afford an Apple product.
SquirtleHermit 9 points 3 years ago
... Damn, good point...
ObsidianZed 2 points 3 years ago
Pay only 29.95/month! (for 100 months)
AlfredEinstein 17 points 3 years ago
Mac was fantastic in the '80s
Mac was great in the "90s
Mac was good in the '00s
Linux Mint was fantastic in the '10s
dustyData 3 points 3 years ago
ARM compatibility is still shit. All actually useful desktop apps are still primarily x86-64, the compatibility layer Rosetta is hit or miss, everything is proprietary and expensive, and Apple decided the Pro model should only have 8GB for a shit ton of money. Apple is overpriced trash in the '20s.
cm0002 3 points 3 years ago
(I don't have a mac, wish I did though).
Worth every penny IMO, MacOS is super nice and so is the hardware.
Putting all my legitimate Apple/MacOS concerns/arguments aside, how can you declare a product as "Worth every penny" when you yourself have not used it for an extensive period of time? Attempted to integrate it into your workflow?
ObviouslyNotBanana 47 points 3 years ago
Linux gamer here
Works no probs
Cold_Brew_Enema -7 points 3 years ago
Wrong. I've ran into a ton of issues recently with proton. Don't act like it's flawless. It needs a lot of work.
CannedTuna 26 points 3 years ago
That’s because this image is dated af.
DannyBoy 3 points 3 years ago
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BeardedGingerWonder 3 points 3 years ago
It's pronounced gpeg
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richardisaguy 37 points 3 years ago
This is quite dated somehow
draughtcyclist 14 points 3 years ago
You can blame IBM for that...
AngryCommieKender 2 points 3 years ago
I may have spent too many years in the service industry
possiblylinux127 30 points 3 years ago
This is a old meme
ImplyingImplications 46 points 3 years ago
You can tell because it suggests Linux isn't for gamers but Valve has its own game console that runs on Linux. It'd be pretty stupid if a game console couldn't run games.
turbowafflz 5 points 3 years ago
I think modern playstations run something BSD based, the switch might too. The Xbox runs some weird NT based thing.
mathterdark 25 points 3 years ago
I am once again asking:
Do you fear God? —(yes)—> TempleOS
MartinXYZ 22 points 3 years ago
I had a friend about 25 years ago who was very much into Quake Arena. His gaming setup ran on BSD. Now that I've been gaming on Linux for several years, I've really come to appreciate how much work it must have been to get that setup running smoothly in the late 90s. He died a couple of years ago. I sometimes wish I could call him up and get some advice.
Grass 21 points 3 years ago
This one didn't age quite as poorly as some of the others. I have gotten to the point of generally preferring Linux gaming now though. Bsd is still a bit lacking for my general computing but opnsense on my router is one of those 'where has this been all my life?' things.
Grass 2 points 3 years ago
I didn't try pfsense but it sounded like opnsense suited me better and I have had no reason to change so far. It has also made managing my self host stuff so much easier but a lot of it is pending being redone with more future proofing.
Steamymoomilk 20 points 3 years ago
My comment is still compiling from source
kogasa 8 points 3 years ago
Eh? I don't get BSODs because my compositor simply crashes (requiring a system restart, as the compositor will crash again if restarted) or my graphics driver hangs. Can't remember the last time I bluescreened on Windows except for when I was testing an unstable RAM overclock.
I won't say Linux gaming is better than Windows, but I will say it's good enough that I don't miss Windows at all even after a few years.
user224 1 point 3 years ago
I do. Last Monday between 8-11am. But on a school PC. 64-bit Windows 10 Pro doesn't seem to play well with slow ancient 80GB HDD, ancient entry-level single-core CPU and 1GiB of RAM leaving just 45MiB free when nothing else than task manager was open.
Can't blame Windows here though. It couldn't even run Linux Mint XFCE (crashed after opening Firefox). This week I "upgraded" it to Windows 7 SP1. Yes, it's connected to internet. But don't worry, we also have Windows XP machines connected to internet.
Just a funny note: One of the requirements from these computers is that they run the newest version of Cisco Packet Tracer... which requires 4GB of free RAM. Yeah, sure.
Trainguyrom 1 point 3 years ago
ancient 80GB HDD, ancient entry-level single-core CPU and 1GiB of RAM
It couldn’t even run Linux Mint XFCE (crashed after opening Firefox)
So the biggest limitation for literally anything will be memory. 1GiB is less than anything other than an Ubuntu server VM will handle
Pro editions of Windows 10 have memory compression which combined with paging will allow it to barely function, but Windows 7 and later will absolutely chug on a single core processor, with 10 basically being unusable due to heavy background processes.
On Linux it appears you have to really do some heavy customization to get memory compression to work, but you can use zram-config to setup a compressed swap file, so it will be slightly less bad. I suspect this is probably the easiest path to having this computer be capable of loading Firefox and a GUI.
With all of that said, an 80GB HDD is going to be incredibly slow even by hard drive standards, and a single core processor is going to be missing so many modern instruction sets that everything will be slow as molasses but even worse, it'll be unreliably slow because certain things that rely on those instructions will chug as it churns through it the hard way, but then other things will zip by normally.
This PC sounds like an excercise in refusing to let the dead die, which while an entertaining challenge, eventually the only solution will be to make it place for running period-correct software
Cold_Brew_Enema -1 points 3 years ago
You're delusional
kusivittula 1 point 3 years ago
hey, linux gamer here!
RIP_Cheems 12 points 3 years ago
What is hoodie?
RIP_Cheems 3 points 3 years ago
But what is it?
emergencyfood 13 points 3 years ago
Stereotypical h4X0r wear.
RIP_Cheems 3 points 3 years ago
But what is it?
NickwithaC 8 points 3 years ago
Hoodie OS. Used by people who type one line into a terminal to bring down the government and say "I'm in" when they extract data from databases.
BoastfulDaedra 11 points 3 years ago
I am one of the few who once had BSD installed on a laptop, and GOD DAMN do I miss being that weirdo.
deleted 1 point 3 years ago
I’m not sure what do you mean by firmware blob but Ive done the following:
- Added non-free to the sources file.
- Installed Surface-linux lib.
There is a guide in surface-linux library which requires compiling something with CMAKE. I’m not comfortable at the moment to do it since I don’t have the time to fix it if something went wrong.
I couldn’t find a good touch gui for debian so ill give ubuntu a shot.
0x4E4F 1 point 3 years ago
In the non-free repo, there should be something like firmware-broadcom, firmware-amd, firmware-intel, etc. Those are binary blobs, closed source firmware (supplied by the manufacturer) that is loaded in the device in order to make it work with the linux kernel. See the make and model od the device via lspci or lsusb (depends on how the device is connected to the PC) and see the make and model. If it's, let's say, Broadcom, install the Broadcom firmware package and restart the rig.
Regarding cmake, you could use BTRFS to revert everything back to the way it was, just make a restore point before doing make install.
JustEnoughDucks 4 points 3 years ago
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That is the fork of RHEL. Probably better to put Fedora indeed.
onlinepersona 8 points 3 years ago
I'm actually curious what BSD provides in comparison to Linux. What does it add, do better, or worse?
The only thing I know is that they introduced some stuff way before linux did, but that's simply due to the age. BSD jails for example have been around for a long time. Buy beyond that, it was never apparent to me why linux took off and BSD didn't.
cyberpunk007 7 points 3 years ago
Bsd is a complete package and tested as such. All the software and everything. It's like windows, when it's released you install it and you get wordpad, edge, calculator etc. Bsd is the same that way. Linux is just a kernel, with the distributions bolting on the gnu software. I know it sounds kinda the same but it's not.
Also the license. With Linux I think you need to cite it's use and you can't charge for something build with it (of course there's exceptions, like packages you create do not need to be for example), but bsd license is the most permissive. You can charge a customer for it and dress it up however you want.
No systemd.
There's some other stuff too
joonazan 9 points 3 years ago
You don't need to cite, you need to provide source code. The point of GPL is to allow the user to inspect and modify the software. You can even sell it as long as you provide the modified source code under the same license.
onlinepersona 0 points 3 years ago
Thanks, that's the best explanation I've gotten so far 👍
namingthingsiseasy 4 points 3 years ago
I would say the biggest advantage is that OpenBSD is a very security-focused distribution, in a way that I don't think any Linux-based distro has adopted.
The other advantage is ZFS. 10-20 years ago, there was no equivalent, and btrfs was in its infancy. These days, btrfs has proven that it is pretty stable and resilient. There might still be some advantages of ZFS over btrfs, but I haven't used either one at all, so I can't really be sure.
Outside of that, the BSDs are basically just different distros. Back in the 90s, when there was a lot more diversity in Unix, a lot of people just started out with *BSD because there was no clear choice at the time. People just like to use what they are more comfortable with - but most new users pick Linux over BSD these days, and a lot of people who started out on BSD have assimilated onto Linux.
Still, diversity is a good, nice thing, especially with the advent of systemd. So I'm glad we still have the BSDs around, even if I disagree with their stance toward the GPL.
cyberpunk007 3 points 3 years ago
Also zfs on Linux has been a thing for a while now
0x4E4F 1 point 3 years ago
There might still be some advantages of ZFS over btrfs, but I haven't used either one at all, so I can't really be sure.
Curently, there are none. In fact, BTRFS has outperformed ZFS in every aspect in the past few years, including filesystem growth (when changing drives, put in bigger ones, something you could never do with ZFS).
Outside of that, the BSDs are basically just different distros. Back in the 90s, when there was a lot more diversity in Unix, a lot of people just started out with *BSD because there was no clear choice at the time. People just like to use what they are more comfortable with - but most new users pick Linux over BSD these days, and a lot of people who started out on BSD have assimilated onto Linux.
The main reason is more drivers and software. Sure, it might be fun compiling from source when you're young, but at the end of the day, when you wanna get work done, you really can't tell your customer (or boss) "look, I really can't deal with this right now, I'm building FF from source". Also, one of the main reasons why Gentoo and LFS have a fairly small user base.
Still, diversity is a good, nice thing, especially with the advent of systemd. So I'm glad we still have the BSDs around, even if I disagree with their stance toward the GPL.
There are distros that don't use systemd, Void being the most prominent of them all (mainly because of the number of packages it has in it's repo).
0x4E4F 2 points 3 years ago
You get to write your own drivers from scratch, so you know for sure no one is spying on you 👍.
Linux took off because, one, it wasn't backed up by an institution or a company, just one guy doing weird stuff with his computer, and two, because of the license. People don't like investing time in something that others might use for free in their commercial products. And not only that, but they're not bound by law to release the source for that. And this is the reasson why every printer out there runs a BSD variant, not Linux.
redcalcium 1 point 3 years ago
ZFS is stable as fuck there. Perfect for running a file server.
Trollception 1 point 3 years ago
Yea I don't use Linux much but both my router and nas are running BSD. Also I found out the PS5 runs BSD. Guessing the benefits are a stable OS as my router/nas often have uptime in the months with my NAS once running over a year without being restarted.
0x4E4F 3 points 3 years ago
No, it's because BSD has a permissive license, unlike Linux. You have to release source if you change the source, which is not what BSD is about. BSD says "here's the source, do whatever you want with it".
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SonnyVabitch 7 points 3 years ago
What's P! and LM?
shotgun_crab 12 points 3 years ago
Pop! OS and Linux Mint
SonnyVabitch 4 points 3 years ago
Thanks!
glassofwater369 7 points 3 years ago
FreeBSD is too mainstream, I use 9front
rottingleaf 6 points 3 years ago
I use Void Linux because I don't have too much free time (for figuring out all the little moments with configuring something more automated like Debian for my laptop, or for compiling stuff in Gentoo, or for micromanaging Slackware).
Tangent5280 5 points 3 years ago
whats that at the end?
morbidcactus 24 points 3 years ago
That's FreeBSD, if I recall TrueNAS is based on it
Wikipedia if interested
KpntAutismus 10 points 3 years ago
Truenas Core is Freebsd-based, Truenas Scale is debian-based i believe.
casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer 5 points 3 years ago
Alma
That's a funny way to spell Rocky
brokenlcd 5 points 3 years ago
Reject modernity, return to typewriters
BobsonDugnutt 4 points 3 years ago
Honestly now pristine m1 macs can be bought on eBay or Gumtree they are not for just the rich anymore
pewgar_seemsimandroid 4 points 3 years ago
i play games sometimes and gimme mint
FrankTheHealer 3 points 3 years ago
Alma Linux being on here gave me a chuckle. Pour one out for a real one.
bartolomeo 3 points 3 years ago
Lmao that was a fun ride
Ziglin 3 points 3 years ago
I'm a Linux gamer, can you adjust it too do you play certain games that don't run on Linux? !linux_gaming@lemmy.world Edit: fixed the link
mexicancartel 2 points 3 years ago
!linux_gaming@lemmy.world is what you probably meant to type
mexicancartel 1 point 3 years ago
Because you are tagging a community on your own instance. It doesnt work for people on other instances
nofoxgiven 2 points 3 years ago
Someone have the list of all those brands?
Fireforger 2 points 3 years ago
From top to bottom and left to right
- Chrome OS
- Windows
- Mac OS
- Ubuntu
- Pop!_OS
- Linux Mint
- Debian
- ?
- Kali Linux (?)
- ?
- Arch Linux
- ?
- ?
Anyone want to help out fill in the blanks?
BoastfulDaedra 1 point 3 years ago
Is your desktop equipped with a spark blanket and a fume hood? -> JavaOS
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