Big Food lies to you

3 years ago by HSR🏴‍☠️ to c/memes

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  • buy organic food with no preservatives
  • look ingredients
  • salt (inorganic preservative)

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GregorGizeh 119 points 3 years ago

buy food without any kind of preservative

spoils in a day or two

shocked pikachu face

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poppy 3 points 3 years ago

That’s a big problem in makeup too! Companies want to put out “clean” and “natural” makeup but makeup isn’t typically used very quickly. Makeup with no preservatives going bad is common.

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iAmTheTot 83 points 3 years ago

"Organic" and "nonGMO" are two things that will actively make me avoid your product.

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hsr 37 points 3 years ago

One of my personal pet peeves, along with people who act like "clean energy" simply means no smog or visible particulate emissions.

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ForgotAboutDre 24 points 3 years ago

That did and in some places does still matter. Homes moving away from heating with coal to natural gas reduces smog. Thus it is seen as clean energy. Because everything is cleaner in the true sense of the word clean. Green is often a better predictor.

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hsr 7 points 3 years ago

Yes, I get that literally clean energy is important and in many places it would be a significant improvement. It can also be easier to explain that we need to move away from fossil fuels based on tangible pollution, not the nebulous "greenhouse gasses" and "global warming", especially when talking to conservative folks.

Still, I feel like public awareness of the issue is... questionable. Whenever I read about some government program to fund more renewable energy, or hear politiciants discuss it, it's almost always the literal clean, not green clean. Invisible emissions will still mess up our climate, and more people should know that.

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Sotuanduso 1 point 3 years ago

Personally I like charging up batteries in the Nether and bringing them back so the emissions don't matter.

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lobut 21 points 3 years ago

Stupid question, what's wrong with organic?

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azertyfun 51 points 3 years ago

Nothing inherently, you can go ahead and eat apples from your apple tree.

The main issue with "organic" foods is that the term is usually very badly regulated. Sometimes there is no difference between "organic" and "non organic"... besides price. Sometimes "organic" foods use very ecologically unfriendly techniques, or are grown/processed in countries where supply chains are not inspected anyway.

Then there's the fact that if something is different, it may not always be an environmental or health win. Growing your food in 30cm of water may be one organic and traditional way to avoid using pesticides (see: rice), but doing that with corn in the middle of Arizona would obviously be a terrible idea!

Anyway, overall I don't think organic foods are worse if you're well off enough that the price is not an issue. But you shouldn't feel personal guilt for buying whatever's cheaper, because quite often the alternative does not justify the price anyway. Eating truly "organic" food unfortunately requires a lot more involvement than picking the green package at a national supermarket chain.

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ChickenLadyLovesLife 12 points 3 years ago

Sometimes there is no difference between “organic” and “non organic”

Probably the most amusing example is strawberries: it's essentially impossible to grow them without using non-organic pesticides (and there are such things as organic pesticides despite the near-universal but incorrect belief that "organic" means "no pesticides") so the USDA allows them to be labelled "organic" if they're grown with non-organic methods but then replanted and treated organically for a few days before being harvested and shipped to market.

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AeonFelis 10 points 3 years ago

I imagine the USDA as a tired underpaid fast-food employee that has to deal with moronic entitled customers.

- "I want an organic strawberry!"
- "I already explained to you that strawberries cannot be grown without non-organic pesticide."
- "Are you telling me no?!"
- "I'm telling you that what you want is agriculturally impossible."
- "Do you have any idea who I am!?"
- "Ugh.... you know what? Okay."
* Takes a perfectly regular "non-organically" grown strawberry.
* Slaps an "organic" label on it.
- "Here you go. One organic strawberry. Thank you for shopping with USDA!"
- "Was that so hard?"

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seliaste 5 points 3 years ago

I thought people in the US calling food "organic" was akin to our "Agriculture biologique" in France, which is heavily regulated at an european level. Is it nit the case?

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azertyfun 3 points 3 years ago

The AB label is regulated yes, which is almost equivalent to the EU green leaf. Then there are various private labels. In the US it's all up to private labels I believe.

Anyone can put "bio" and a vaguely green packaging on anything though AFAIK. And I don't think the average consumer is very knowledgeable about which label means what; I certainly am not.

Then there's the problem of fraud, and various issues with the way the EU defines "biological agriculture", but I don't really know much about either.

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iAmTheTot 17 points 3 years ago

It's a bullshit marketing term to appeal to pseudoscience and anti-intellectuals.

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Laticauda 15 points 3 years ago

It's a heavily abused and arbitrary marketing term that doesn't actually indicate anything about what the food is made of or how it's made or grown. It also doesn't indicate anything about how healthy the food is or how good it tastes. At most it's slightly better for the environment in some areas with some brands when used properly, but even then regulations are too lax and inconsistent worldwide for it to be a trustworthy label.

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TrickDacy 8 points 3 years ago

This is false. The reality is that USDA organic does have meaning. It's certainly less meaning than implied, but the binary thinking leads to an incorrect view like yours. I actively avoid organic if it's more expensive, but when it's about the same, it's clearly somewhat better to some degree

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BaldProphet 8 points 3 years ago

Not everything that is labeled organic is USDA Organic.

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GregorGizeh 6 points 3 years ago

Depends on where you live. As far as I know the term is not well protected in many countries, so it means next to nothing there.

However, I live in the EU / Germany, where we have several organic farming standards that are all fairly strict. Generally, organic actually means organically produced food here, grown without artificial pesticides, chemical fertilizers, and so on.

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PrunesMakeYouPoop 2 points 3 years ago

It's more expensive, and it's typically not that much better than inorganic.

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voidMainVoid 9 points 3 years ago

Same, but I'm also a vegan, and the organic and/or non-GMO product is often the only one without animal ingredients.

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HiddenLayer5 4 points 3 years ago

Just out of curiosity since I assume you know more about this, is "plant based" the same as vegan? Because that's the hip new term but I've always wondered if they're equivalent or if they do have some animal products which is why they're dancing around the word vegan. I've never gotten a straight answer from the people at the store/restaurant.

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voidMainVoid 12 points 3 years ago

Unfortunately, the answer is "It depends". Although plant-based foods are usually suitable for vegans, it isn't a regulated term, so you can't be sure. Also, I think the term "vegan" has negative connotations that "plant-based" doesn't, so marketers prefer to use that term instead.

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HiddenLayer5 3 points 3 years ago

Thank you!

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TrickDacy 2 points 3 years ago

Congratulations?

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Lodra 2 points 3 years ago

Huh. Why??

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kameecoding 10 points 3 years ago

Because I doubt there is anything we eat that's non gmo, we have been influencing the genetics of plants around us for centuries.

For example saying you only eat organic watermelon is fucking stupid, look at how it looked 2000 years ago and how it looks now.

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ForgotAboutDre 2 points 3 years ago

Genetically modified generally refers to direct modifications to genes done in a lab. As opposed to selective breeding.

Organic often refers to the use of fertiliser and pesticides. So produce that is grown with compost rather than synthetic fertiliser and synthetic pesticides.

It's completely feasible to produce organic watermelons and solely consume organic watermelons. It only refers to how the fruit was grown. Not the variety.

There are GMOs that are created in a lab. Commercial varieties breed mainly for shelf life and volume. Then there is heirloom variety's, older varieties generally breed prior to over commercialisation of farming that has made food more bland and bigger. All of these can be grown organically.

In fact it's very easy for the only watermelon you eat to be organic. Especially if you grow them yourself, as many gardeners use organic methods exclusively.

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dubyakay 1 point 3 years ago

I hate North America's obsession with seedless watermelons and grapes.

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HiddenLayer5 48 points 3 years ago

Fuck organic food where can I buy some silicon based food?

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ThunderclapSasquatch 3 points 3 years ago

All about that Germanium based food personally

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lolcatnip 2 points 3 years ago

Eat some glass?

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mariusafa 17 points 3 years ago

Reject modernity, embrace salt as currency.

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jaybone 3 points 3 years ago

This sounds like a protest slogan.

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ColeSloth 14 points 3 years ago

Don't worry. It was there for flavor. Not preservation.

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shplane 10 points 3 years ago

I realize the ambiguity of whether organic really matters, but there is a strong link to pesticide use and the eventual extinction of bees-

https://www.greenpeace.org/....

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xX_fnord_Xx 7 points 3 years ago

Vitamin E (tocopherols) are also preservatives that can be added to organic food.

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oxjox 6 points 3 years ago

The wealth of misinformation and personal opinions in this thread is… it’s just classic.

It’s incredible that as we are actively engaging in conversation on the internet we fail to use this modern marvel to better ourselves. Instead, we choose to bear our ignorance and influence impressionable minds.

I mean, I know this a meme and maybe not the right place for fact checking, still…

https://www.mayoclinic.org/...

https://www.heart.org/...

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/...

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some_random_nick 5 points 3 years ago

Why are people transcribing memes?

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KoboldOfArtifice 25 points 3 years ago

So that vision impaired people or people with whatever other impairment can enjoy the content. The text can be read out by a screen reader.

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Appoxo 5 points 3 years ago

Spoiler:
Spoiler work differently here :)

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Sir_Simon_Spamalot 3 points 3 years ago
like

this?

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Appoxo 1 point 3 years ago

OP, see here how it's done.

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frezik 3 points 3 years ago

At least they labeled salt correctly as "inorganic". Doesn't matter, but it's at least correct.

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LemmyKnowsBest 2 points 3 years ago

that cat seems to be missing the top of his head. Where is the rest of his head?

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Kushia 4 points 3 years ago

He ate too much organic food with salt in it and got smooth brain.

It's a huge conspiracy that the big seasoning companies don't want you to know.

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EmoDuck 1 point 3 years ago

Wide angle lense

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shplane 1 point 3 years ago
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