Seriously. Talk about poking the bear, he got me pissed all over again. Never going back to reddit now.
Seriously. Talk about poking the bear, he got me pissed all over again. Never going back to reddit now.
That's because spazzy spez didn't think his internal memo would leak.
Nah I think it's clear he wanted it to leak. He's just an egomaniac who thinks he's actually a good leader. That section of the memo was for investor confidence. (It'll pass, no revenue effect so far, etc.) The other part about warning employees not to wear Reddit gear in public for fear of violence was meant for the press and for the uninformed, to try to garner sympathy and paint the protestors as bad actors.
Obvious tactic, paint the other side as violent and you'll get sympathy. Won't someone please think of the corporation.
Make no mistake, spez would love to see someone in a reddit tshirt beat up on the street. He'd be able to plaster that everywhere he could showing how sad his side is
It's working, too. The Forbes article which I saw posted either here or on Kbin didn't even push back on Huffman's claim that traffic from LLMs was the reason for the price hike, and I haven't seen any big publication use the audio or transcripts showing a slam-dunk case of slander (or libel, whichever one applies to text) against the Apollo developer.
The other part about warning employees not to wear Reddit gear in public for fear of violence was meant for the press and for the uninformed, to try to garner sympathy and paint the protestors as bad actors.
Glad people aren't blind to this obvious ploy. When LGBT violence is at an all time high I don't think you need to be worried about wearing a reddit shirt.
He expects so because he's going to have his admin staff de-mod all the rebels, open the subs back up, and ruthlessly ban anyone who says a word about the controversy. The user population that remains will eventually go back to sleep, and all will be well in Reddit-land.
This. There will always be people attracted to power, even power as ultimately meaningless as being a reddit mod. Spez will enlist a new squad of wanna-be petty tyrants.
They never shut down, along with a few other biggies. TiL just reopened.
I mean, the charitable read is the CEO of the company reassuring the entire company that they'll be OK. That's his entire job. Yes, it's a pretty crappy thing to say but we all weren't the intended audience. He's there to rally the troops and keep morale up.
That said, fuck u/spez and I'm way happier over here than there.
Every person counts
You know, I wonder if that was in all seriousness actually part of it, because they do have positive associations with the word federation, and that's the same effect marketing mainly tries to achieve. Might make people just that little bit more interested in it and more willing to work through any troubles getting used to a new system.
I see what you did there. Keep doing this here an you will prosper. 🖖
that would explain why Im suddenly seeing a ton of star trek posts on my federated feed, I mean Id expect some but Ive seen a lot more all of a sudden
That's awesome. Starting a community is cool but starting their own instance is next level.
Oh nice I was looking for a good Trek community. Did /r/tuvixinstitute /r/daystrominstitute move over?
They did! !daystrominstitute@startrek.website is Daystrom. !startrek@startrek.website is the mainsub, and !risa@startrek.website is the meme/shitpost sub!
How do I get to those from your comment? I clicked them and it just opened Gmail and decided the links were the addresses lol.
That is awesome! how soon until Beehaw is federated with them?
This only proves that you can't unilaterally migrate a subreddit. That instance currently has ~250 users. I don't know how active the subs it represents were, but surely they had at least an order of magnitude more active users than that?
Since it's based around a show, Trek as a whole is in a show lull until Thursday. The folks who normally run the weekly content posts have already migrated over. There has been half a dozen attempts at replacing r/startrek with versions of it not run by that mod team and all have failed to gain traction, so good luck to anyone trying to do that. They run a tight ship and make it one of the more enjoyable subs on the site.
Trekkies have existed in groups in one form or another since Usenet and BBS. Moving to a new technology is nothing new to us.
That being said, 250 users in 1 day (they didnt get it set up and actually open until last night) is nothing to scoff at.
Edit: As of now (2am ET on Wednesday) they're at 800+ subscribers to the mainsub. That's-- not bad at all.
Is it the same mods as /r/startrek?
250 users in one day is excellent!
Oh nice! I'm gonna have to follow them on here too- now I just need other subs for my interests (cars, aquariums, etc) and shitposting sites (dccirclejerk, batman arkham) to make their way here
Does anybody know yet if you are allowed to criticize startrek on those communities? I had a major problem with /r/startrek in that you couldn’t say anything less than glowingly positive or you were banned. Like, not even about the whole woke bullshit, you couldn’t even say the writing was below par - banned.
I just wanna talk about startrek, both the good and the glaringly bad lol.
You could always criticize them, you just couldn't be lazy about your criticism.
I've many times talked about the inconsistency in character development, the trend to "give backstory and then kill a character," and the absolutely nauseating camera movement (especially in the early seasons) of Discovery, for example. Never even got a warning, nor my posts removed.
There was a major thread like a year back talking about how in Disco, the actors don't actually move about a scene when they do things. The movement is from room to room, and then they are stuck in place as they talk and it really throws you out of it.
Edit: In fact, there's literally a post critiquing season 4 of Discovery right now on their front page with healthy discussion in the comments.
All of these were allowed before and still.
Disagree. I was banned from there when they signed on with the brigade to get /r/nonewnormal banned. My offending post? “Et tu, /r/startrek?” (Off topic - so much for Reddits rules against “brigading.”)
That was it. And it was in that thread (so it was on topic.) And I watched others get banned in the same thread for literally quoting from the TNG episode “The Drumhead.” So I found alternate startrek subs and saw the influx of other users who were banned from the main sub for mild criticism (with receipts). Then watched those subs get banned as well for not towing the Paramount line.
I firmly believe that the main ST sub was monitored, if not infiltrated by, Paramount (or a PR/marketing firm hired by them) to halt any negative discussion of the new shows. I watched similar things happen all across Reddit, especially in the larger subs. After being on Reddit for nearly 15 years (since just prior to the Digg migration), that place has changed.
I would be cautious too if I were a sub owner and guiding people to an alternative honestly. Lemmy and Kbin both are relatively unstable right now, even if they are pretty good. Waiting a little to see which instances are more stable and likely to last is a good move before planting people somewhere and making an official replacement sub.
This is the main issue I see right now as well. I created my own instance for my account to live on, just so I know it will be there as long as I want it to. But that doesn't do anything for communities I'm subscribed to that could, potentially, be on an instance that later goes down.
I think communities of similar topics are going to need to coordinate in the long run, and perhaps run their own instance to house their communities. This way the folks running the community and the folks hosting it are one in the same. You'd have instances that mainly house users, and perhaps a community or two. That's where most folks would have their main account. Then you'd have instances that mainly house content, with few users besides the moderation/admin team(s).
I think what would help is the introduction of multisubreddit equivalent for lemmy and then allowing similar duplicate communities to have the option of linking up with each other so people can subscribe to public multisubreddit. So regardless of what instance a community is on if it's like a technology community it'll display all the technology community duplicates.
That is brilliant. A sort of sub-federation within the grander federated instances. Subfeds (you heard it here first!) could feed off of and into each other, so if one instance goes dark it’s community and content are not lost as they’ve been replicated across the Fediverse. Sort of a cross between multisubs and RAID.
How about extending the software so that communities replicate between sets of servers over time? That way, things are more robust even if one server goes down.
I am gonna be honest but instances going down and losing communities could have the same probability as Reddit shutting down Subreddits just because they feel like it.
I understand your concern, but I think it would first be wise to let some communities flourish and look how it holds up in the grand scheme of things.
That and there is some rapid development for the apps going on right now. Lemmy definitely still needs some UI improvements and has a bunch of little problems which could turn away new users prematurely. So it would be good if there was some advertisement in July when the reddit apps shut down.
Fittingly I had two rewrite this comment and another comment 10 minutes ago because I got errors when trying to send them..
This will be like the YT changes in 2017 only much sharper. The utility of reddit is already dead. The whole point in all of this is to be another mindless zombie platform. The native app and nu(ked) reddit were already like this. Now you won't be able to search and find anything anywhere on the internet unless you are escorted there by an algorithm.
Eh, this was already the case on Reddit to an extent, but the point is moderators really carried the platform on their backs and if many of them really do leave then Reddit will collapse as a useful platform with actual discussion.
Reddit without niche subs would probably become a aggregate for tiktok, Instagram, and Twitter videos. Which it has been trending towards when it comes to what reddit displays to users as default.
Speaking of: Remember when YouTube was good? When your feed showed you your actual subscriptions, the earlier algorithm was showing you stuff you actually want to see and not 6 late night shows, an ad for YouTube TV, and maybe a decent video essay or two?
Yerp, I'm currently looking into ditching normal youtube. Third party frontend and just using a sub feed, no browsing frontpage recommended. I'm so tired of all this algorithmic nonsense.
There are enough people posting to see a fresh dozen or so posts an hour my Subscribed > New feed and I don't have a ton of subs, mostly STEM. Honestly a few days ago that was a crazy pipe dream. With this kind of mass threshold passed, we only need to expand the scope/quality of posts and this can be a permanent home that organically draws people to the platform. I think we need a page on the major instances that show the plans and limitations of those hosting the instance and where they need support. Like learning Ruud has a bunch of other federated .world servers and seeing his remarkable ability to handle scale makes me much more confident to be here.
No doubt it will cool off some here, but I like this more and it seems like some others feel the same. I don't think there will be any going back because it won't be the same reddit ever again.
Well, as long as I don't have the Reddit app installed and I can't use my 3rd party apps + I have the Jerboa app under my thumb, it will become my default quickly (it already has now, as I removed 3rd party apps from my home screen).
I wonder how many people will do the same when their 3rd party app does not work.
I think the big Mastodon push last year has made things a little bit easier for Lemmy. Basic awareness of the fediverse has broken into the mainstream of social media, rather than being a niche interest of Free Software enthusiasts.
Now that Lemmy's gotten this initial nudge of mainstream support, I'll be far more engaged here than I ever was on Reddit.
This may seem a tad ironic since I'm posting here in the fediverse, but I think we should also be encouraging a variety of alternative, self-hostable options, e.g. Postmill (similar to reddit but not federated), Discourse (more of a classic forum structure but with some modernizations), etc.
Not everyone will want to try to figure out federation/ActivityPub, and that's okay, because there are more options that folks can spin up. The fediverse, imo, benefits as much from other self-hosted sites as it does from those that connect with it.
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The answer is prompting users to spread out to different instances, at least in the short term
And I'm sure the new mods being installed will have an even stronger alignment with Reddit's philosophy and direction which will only make life in that place more hellish.
I'm glad I jumped ship when I did.
Removed by an admin or another mod? There aren't really enough details in that story to know exactly what happened. It also seems strange that it says the sub went public briefly and then back to private. That doesn't really sound like an admin forcibly stopping the blackout.
I feel like subs being forced public is a real possibility as things continue on, but I'm not sure this is a good example of that.
I predicted forcible demods...
But like, I feel like the one thing that would work is the one thing no one has been talking about.
A mod strike!
Maybe it has been suppressed because it would seem too radical but like, if the communities are going to die anyways might as well go out with a bang. Mods should all go on strike and spammers can run free and burn the site to the ground. That's basically what happened with Twitter, right? Has Spez seen what has happened to the valuation of Twitter this past year or what?
I went on Reddit during the blackout and on the front page there were shitty tattoos of bdsm furries with their dick and balls out... If the front page could all turn into that and the enforcement of NSFW tags was lost due to lack of mods, I can't imagine that the shareholders would be happy about what the site has become.
Mod + user direct action - everyone should post spacedicks/porn and mods should refuse to enforce the rules. Reddit wants to destroy the mods? Then reddit should see what a world without mods on the internet actually looks like... Especially before the IPO. Plus, the internet can get VERY active when it comes to participating in mischief instead of watching things slowly fall apart. I'd upvote spacedicks for the cause.
I have no idea why no one is talking about this unless posts/comments like that are being suppressed. Since it seems like most 3rd party apps have the best mod tools and most mods won't keep up their work if they don't have the right tools, the end result will be the same anyways.
Edit: they can't afford to pay people to replace enough mods. Spez deserves a look at what reddit will become BEFORE the IPO in my opinion.
It was truly unexpected to see how large social networks find new and innovative ways to ride and accelerate their downfall.
From my perspective:
Facebook --> Cambridge Analytica fiasco
Twitter --> Elon was bluffing but Twitters Legal team forced him to proceed otherwise the SEC was already looking for blood and an excuse to make his life very difficult for all his previous shenanigans
Reddit --> already downhill since just before Ellen Pao nonetheless may I speculate that perhaps one or more of the larger shareholders/investors forced the current situation but Huffman underestimated and did not realize that the power users and pro bono moderators were entirely dependent on third-party apps.
Moreover, I exclusively used reddit through old.reddit.com I have no idea how current Reddit actually looks like nor do I care as it was unusable.
Sad to see great things go but life continues onward.
I have no idea how current Reddit actually looks like nor do I care as it was unusable.
Just for fun, I opened reddit in a fresh browser, without my settings and extensions etc. It was... shit. No other way to put it. 1/3 of the screen was used for content, the rest was some form of trying to feed you crypto stuff, advertisement or "hey you should rather watch this video than read text, you loser!".
For now, I can, thanks to some plugins, bring new reddit to something that is close enough to old reddit to be usable. But if this is the way reddit is heading, I'm out, alternative site or not.
https://nextshark.com/ellen-pao-reddit-dacvak-ama You sure about that?
It's inevitable, honestly. All things end.
At least we got to see a REMARKABLE flame-out of a once incredibly popular website. I thought Digg was wild, this is something else entirely.
Lemmy is growing but we need to work to make easy to allow reddit mods to setup instances and fund them
Maybe pick an existing one and help it get off the ground:
Be mildly competent at computers... or know someone who is and willing to help you.
Either setup your own instance, or find an instance that's already setup that you like and the owner will let you add stuff to the database...
Start a community...
Read here... https://github.com/rileynull/RedditLemmyImporter
Success! now you've migrated your subreddit to lemmy!
(This is a little sarcastic. I'm not good at legit guides. But it is possible!)
Edit: tweaked phrasing... doing this to general public servers would be unlikely.
Just wanted to add that not all instances are allowing new community creation, including Beehaw.
Yeah, there's an edit. Seems not to have propagated back to beehaw. yay for beta!
I haven’t found many moderator features on Lemmy so far. The community that I created does not seem to have any way of blocking posts.
You should be able to, here's the mod docs
Thanks!
It would be great if someone could make something that would clone a subreddit into a lemmy community automatically pulling sidebar information and other things. Some stuff would have to be manual, but it would make things a lot easier.
Imagine how differently this would have played out if Reddit CEO Steve Huffman had taken a collaborative approach with app developers and stake holders. A few months ago, he could have called them up and humbly asked them for ideas and assistance in making Reddit profitable. Reddit would be on path to financial success by now.
It's a corporate us vs them mentality. I don't think Steve would even ask his own employees for help - the people who are on the ground running the company. The internal memo strongly indicates that Reddit doesn't have a two-way communication channel with leadership.
I don't think it's wrong for Spez to charge for API access, but the rates he's vowing to charge are excessive and clearly designed to nuke third-party apps from their ecosystem.
As for how I'd make money from Reddit in his shoes, I'd:
Good. I really hope this causes a snowball effect. After spez (fuck spez) basically told all the moderators "fuck you" today, I'd say there is enough momentum to get at least a good half of the participating subs on board with an indefinite blackout. And with more moderators checking their inboxes and feeds tomorrow, "after the blackout," I anticipate seeing a second wave starting tomorrow and throughout the next week, as these mods return to reddit temporarily to coordinate.
KEEP IT GOING!!!
Reddit declined to comment
I am guessing their comment would be something like, "FUCK!!!!!!"
Well now they have to take over the subs and get new moderators. They won't just sit there and watch Reddit burn further.
For the 2 days private protest, their comment that it will be over soon was appropriate. As giving an exact time frame allows to know the exact end of it. They could just sit there and wait it out.
Now with the indefinite protest, they have to act. And to get to content onto Reddit again, they will probably be looking for new unpaid strike breakers mods for those subs, so they don't have to actually hire and pay people to moderate content on their soon publicly traded company website.
Have subs continued to stay blacked out? I have not checked it out since the first day of it.
Yes. For instance, at this time, /r/nba is still blacked out even though the NBA season ended recently, and this week would've been its prime time.
Good for them!! Did they make a lemmy instance?
No, it would've been something along the lines of "A: We are evaluating it at this time for the best approach moving forward"
Can I get an eli5 on digg? It seems to have happened years and years before I joined reddit
Digg was a site that was a lot like reddit, it was incredibly popular until they did a site redesign that many users hated and they were unable to roll back, engagement went way down, users looked for alternatives, and reddit got most of the refugees. I haven't been back on digg for many years.
I thought reddit learned its lesson from digg given they kept legacy old.reddit.com running even after their own redesign, but they failed to remember that 3rd party interfaces to their API is almost the same thing; users like interfacing with their social media using the UI/UX design they chose and grew accustomed to. If they take that away, it risks alienating users and driving them to alternatives.
If reddit was smart they'd make it so that people with reddit gold can keep using API access instead of locking them out entirely.
What reddit doesn't seem to get that for many people old.reddit (or a 3rd party app) is reddit for them. If they take that away they're forcing them to learn a new UI or to get a new app. It's naive to think that everyone is just going to switch to the official ones. Might aswell find an alternative to reddit and learn to use that.
It's not just about learning the new interfaces...I've used the new site design and have heard the official app is just as bad about shoving ads down our throats. Baconreader made ads at least fairly unobtrusive, but with all the drama I've decided: fuck it. I appreciate Lemmy and other decentralized options for being user-funded rather than reliant on corporations
But that would be contrary to Reddit's actual goals, which is to monetize their user's data as much as possible. They can't do that if third party apps are providing a better experience, so they are trying to force everyone to use only the website and apps that are directly controlled by Reddit. So they can track our behavior and sell more ads.
I read somewhere that a lot of the API pricing has to do with people training LLM's on reddit comments for free; reddit wants to get paid for it. I guess they'll just have to scrape instead. /shrug
There's still a lot of tracking that can be done via api calls but you're right that they lose ad revenue and UI/click info.
Thanks for the explanation
Same but different. The site sold out and made some changes that were good for investors, but bad for users. It also happened to slashdot. When that went bad, we all went to digg.
Looking back, I'm surprised reddit lasted as long as it did. Digg and slashdot still exist, but aren't what they were in their heyday. I'm sure reddit will continue in some form.
Tbf, reddit is infinitely more mainstream than digg and Slashdot ever were. Reddit has well over 500 million monthly active users. We are just reaching 100,000 here.
I'm all in, I'm committed here and never going back to reddit. But I want to manage expectations about what we should expect in the coming months and years. People need to understand that this isn't going to be a seamless transition like that one. Part of the reason that was even possible was because reddit got hundreds of millions of dollars of venture capital funding as they rapidly grew. We don't have that option here.
It will take years for this platform to come anywhere near the current size of reddit, if ever. Now, many of us would argue that reddit was better back when it only had say 50 million MAUs (which was about 10 years ago). That still leaves us 49.9 million users short.
If we want to build a truly free, independent, decentralized space, it's going to take a lot more commitment and time than switching from digg to reddit did. And I think it will be a rewarding journey for those that stick around.
But don't count your chickens yet people, we are still in the first round and it's going to take more than this to bring down the big bad reddit. I'm just glad I finally have some way to fight back.
Mastodon/Akkoma/Calckey/Misskey/Pleroma side of the fediverse is somewhere over 10 million users right now and it's already starting to be quite active and having lots of quality content. It went from less than a million users to the current numbers in about six months. We'll see where Lemmy is in December...
Yeah, I'm committed as well, and you're right about your input.
A few notes in my mind, tho:
1 - Reddit became really mainstream, yeah, but I figure a huge part of the user base were tech people. Probably work in tech somehow.
2 - those who came to Lemmy/kbin already are also tech people, I figure. Right now, I think it is just normal that the first to pull the trigger are in tech. It's not too friendly to the average user (despite the forum format really not being what the average user goes after today)
3 - these people will start to contribute to the development, even if not providing actual code and developing apps or creating their instances, most will post issues about their user experience and will have valuable input about the platform.
4 - I think the true take off of the Fediverse will come once content creators start to post their content in here. And I expect the first of them, at least, to also be tech content creators.
I'll try to encourage some of the guys I follow, mainly course creators, to invest a bit in the Fediverse. Some of them already do. I know that Twitter puts food on their table, but it should be easy to automate and crosspost to Mastodon, for example.
I hate social media overall. It's not really hatred, I just don't use most of them, don't find the motivation and don't really value what they have to offer me. I think Instagram sucks for searching anything (who would say searching pictures would be hard, huh?).
I, for one, started lurking on Reddit because of fantasy football. Reddit was really good as a link and content aggregator, and I got most of my news from there. But it depends on Twitter as well, since the reports mainly come from there. And you see where the problem is at? Most of the people who advocate for the Fediverse don't really use Twitter as well.
So I can only dream of the day Ian Rapopport will post some breaking news to Mastodon and a bot will auto-crosspost it to /c/fantasyfootball.
A man can hope about this ideal future.
Edit: JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, I DIDN'T REALIZE MASTODON HAS 7 MILLION USERS ALREADY
I see, thanks for the backstory.
Ahead of the Tuesday post, more than 300 subreddits had committed to staying dark indefinitely, SpicyThunder335 said. The list included some hugely popular subreddits, like r/aww (more than 34 million subscribers), r/music (more than 32 million subscribers), and r/videos (more than 26 million subscribers). Even r/nba committed to an indefinite timeframe at arguably the most important time of the NBA season. But SpicyThunder335 invited moderators to share pledges to keep the protests going, and the commitments are rolling in.
A surprising amount of big names there. I figured it would be more obscure/niche subreddits like /r/TaylorSwift, /r/SpaghettiWesterns, or something like that
Surprised nba is joining, from what I’ve heard they’ve been dicksucking spez here more than some admins
As much as I do hope this helps, I'm afraid it won't change a thing: Like all blowups on Reddit, this one will pass as well." -Spez. Seem they will ride out this storm. This have to be permanent to make any changes at Reddit.
But not for me. I'm forever gone.
And if there are enough power users (lots of comments, posts) like me who feel the same, it will have an impact.
There's a HUGE middle ground between "nothing changes" and "reddit goes out of business." As we see with Twitter, you can have a zombie platform that persists but slowly loses inertia month after month.
It's not that Reddit dies abruptly. It's that the platform is wounded now and, without attention, will bleed out slowly over many years.
$200? Is that all?
a lot of people back on Reddit could not give less of a shit about the issues and just want their content; they even see this as just mods powertripping again
it's kind of annoying to see that, tbh, even if I sort of get it
Damn, the apathy is strong but I do get it. After all, Reddit was mostly a place for me to deflate and relax or just read things during downtime.
but that's not immediate and requires some work and effort (to figure out how federation works, to figure out how Lemmy works, to learn how to create an instance and to make one, to start over with an entirely new community); many on Reddit want the easiest path to get their content
which again, understandable, but still annoying to see
Perhaps... but once a certain amount of people left DIGG for reddit back in the day, the whole thing quickly fell apart. I mean, yea, DIGG still exists and I assume there are people who still use it, but I've never met one since I left it about 15 years ago.
Its not like the API issue is the only reason, much less the main reason people want to leave reddit. A lot of people have been wanting to do it for a long time now, it is only that there haven't been any other options with a crowd big enough to hold a conversation beyond only a few people. There is a big chance that that is now changing.
it's kind of annoying to see that
Why would that be annoying? It means the strike is working, it does exactly what it is meant to do. If the consumers don't find content, they will ultimately move elsewhere
I haven't seen that. Everyone seems to be rather upset about Apollo, RIF, Relay, etc. The only person I've seen suggesting power tripping mods is u/spez.
Oh 100% i see moderation suffering. But reddit will only care about that when it directly affects them financially. Which is to say that there is an amount of abuse and bigotry that reddit is cool with as long as it doesn't bring lawsuits or scare advertisers
100% agreed. Pulling out my fake crystal ball, I predict "Click-baitification" (tm) with an emphasis on quantity over quality to keep engagement numbers up for the IPO, while the comments will devolve into only low effort memes
Guaranteed the ipo backers will have their eye on that. I mean if all it's gonna be is bots and click-bait (ie: few real people) who the hell wants to spend millions/billions on that?
It already is full of bots upvoting/replying to posts by karma bots. They just need to start having bots moderate the subs, and turn the whole place into r/subredditsimulator (still the best thing that ever came out of Reddit, imo).
Well, despite the difficulties translating to Federated platforms, I will certainly be working on alternative social platforms.
I no longer use Quora or Facebook...
I unsubscribed my 'YouTube' channels and added them as RSS feeds, so there's no need for me to be signed in there to consume content from creators I follow.
I hope that a month or two with the Fediverse will allow me to understand it better. I'm sure that many Fediverse users will also remain on Reddit and be able to advise folks on what to do.
If anyone on, for example, r/firefox announced activity over here, I'd follow them here. So whatever the 'bots' say, I know what's occurring in my corner.
Post closed, marked as duplicate.
Was that Quora as well? I thought that's only StackOverflow :c
But yes, I very much hope that the ethos of beehaw makes for "programming question" communities that are as useful as StackOverflow while not being so rude.
Whomever said there are no stupid questions, has never visited Quora.
RSS is one thing I have yet to dive into. There are videos that I want to watch and channels that I want to be subscribed to but I'm disliking the constant monitoring if activity online.
Cirfsnglh on travel with AirBNBs and the smart TVs with logins feels so weird knowing what others are up to, and I don't feel comfortable adding my recents to their lists.
Inoreader works very nicely for me. I have quite a few folders set up... Stuff I had bookmarks for, but rarely visited lately...
Stuff from the 'other' place - useful fodder to consider 'bridging' or just 'copy/pasting' over in Fediverse :P
I added the Firefox extension, so if I visit Youtube - for example (open this in a PRIVATE window, not logged in) Insights from Ukraine and Russia then I can Easily add the RSS by searching in Inoreader.
Here's Daily Dose of Internet
The beauty being that you can quickly go through all this stuff - great keyboard accessibility (90% covered with Shift J-K to go to the next/previous feed, Shift-X to toggle expansion of the folder, J - K to go (and mark read) the next/previous item (but you can ALWAYS view all articles in a thread)... all without visiting the sites.
Feedly and Inoreader are both awesome - and you can (and should regularly) export a list of your feeds as a backup/migration strategy.
Feedly is great, use it for my private RSS stuff.
At work, on macos, I use rssbot - which isn't an RSS reader but just an ... uhm ... rss linker? It doesn't feature the capability to read content but just gives you a list of links to anything new. If that's enough for you, it's a great app.
I have never understood what RSS is or how to access it even after looking it up
RSS stands for Really Simple Syndication.
Back when blogs were a bigger thing, they would be setup with RSS to “push out” notifications when new posts were published. (Technically your RSS client pulls the RSS feeds but the end result is the same - the feed is just a list of posts basically).
You open up your RSS client or site and there will be a list of sites you’re “following” and any new posts they’ve made.
Plenty of sites still support RSS. A lot of readers can pull the RSS feed automatically if you just give them the site URL/web address.
My personal choice is NewsBlur which is at https://NewsBlur.com. You can get a free account there to try it out.
Search for 'Github ALLAboutRSS' or visit https://github.com/AboutRSS/ALL-about-RSS
RSS is one of the oldest protocols existing. Basically it's like a feed with links to things posted...
I'd suggest you start with Feedly or Inoreader, make an account and take a look.
For me, it means that I can see notifications (Inoreader) telling me how many unread items have occurred across the 79 websites I added as feeds.
I have a folder for 'Fediverse' with feeds like Lemmy - ukraine (also Reddit's r/ukraine).
I have a 'Linux' folder, containing a few interesting blogs - like Niccolo's KDE developer blog, a few news sites, plus announcements from my OS forum.
I have a 'News' folder with various sources (one is a journalist I know with a Facebook page - as I don't use Facebook).
I have a 'Video' folder
I have a 'Time Waster' folder which has things like Digg, WindowSwap, Drive & Listen
Basically, any time you make an account and request updates from a website, the same can be done with NO account and simply copying the RSS link.
It gives you updates on things you don't need to bother bookmarking or opening to follow.
@soiling @BendyLemmy the quality of answers is low, you're not missing out
Thanks for the A2A.
No, miles morales from Spider man tm into the spiderverse tm is not related to dipper pines from gravity falls
Stay curious Signing off Have a good one -username
I realised after a while that Quora is full of dumb question askers and question answerers wanting to sound smart. I earnt $5 from it though so can’t complain
I suspect we’re about to see a lot of mods lose their permissions. Reddit will allow some protest but not at the expense of investors getting spooked.
Hey folks. Looks like I let this one get by so I'll leave it since there's already some discussion happening, but for the next few days please try to keep discussion of the Reddit situation in the megathread.
How do we get to the 'megathread' ? I never knew one existed.
WTheRtRevKaiser - you didn't post a link to the 'megathread' - I'm not sure I know where that is. Sorry... I need a tutorial for every suggested action ;)
Here ya go!
Sorry about that, I've been away from the computer for a bit. For future reference if we have a megathread about a big event like this, it will most likely be pinned at the top of the relevant community. This one is pinned at the top of !Technology here: https://beehaw.org/c/technology
Don't underestimate the power of spite.
This is what I want to see. When admins forced a sub to reopen I would think the volunteer mods won't maintain it, it will slowly crumble. Volunteer mods has a better motivation to maintain the sub they love than a paid employee.
I would love to see Reddit crumble into spam
I guess Reddit has introduced free API calls for moderator apps. They're trying to placate the mods, but screw the users. Good luck with that.
It's almost like they never considered that moderators use the same third party apps as the rest of their users, either.
Though based on the leaked internal memo, it looks like Reddit doesn't think very much of their users at all.
It turns out though, the mods are also users. That's the whole free labor market Reddit has tapped into. They don't have to pay mods and so users are mods. Yet now they are trying to monetize just half and completely failing to understand what their user base even looks like. I don't know many mods but the ones I do know are users first and moderators because they want the community to be decent.
Cool that sites are reporting on it. Maybe that’ll add pressure.
The thing that worries me is if they do manage to get through this without losing anything significant, it’s only going to give them confidence to go further. How long before old.reddit goes? NSFW content? Blocking users with adblockers?
Lemmy has no resistance whatsoever to such content except that while those instances can exist, other instances can defederate from them. Defederation by the larger lemmy instances puts up an effective wall so they'll be more difficult to discover from within a smaller instance.
Thus, any instance can effectively "ban" any other instance that is okay to host whatever content they wish, while any other instance can continue to remain connectable. This makes it easier to get away from disgusting shit since you don't need a team of site admins who pick and choose what's advertiser friendly or not for you, but instead people who legitimately want the best for their communities.
Isn't this what happened to raspberry.social when they started telling everyone to unfollow them if they don't agree. They got defederated. ilIt's not child porn bad but it's a swift action if an instance don't play nice.
Not sure about the entirety of available options but one thing I think instances are able to do is block other instances... so I guess if an instance became flooded with illegal material, another instance could block it - though I'm not yet sure what that means exactly in this context.
Then the people who still use Reddit can leave or accept the changes.
I expect the people who actually gave a beeswax are long gone than already at that point, so the community can then shout into the void if they would disagree.
correct.
It will not pass until it is made right.
Zzzzzzz....fuck u/spez.
The community literally has reddit by the balls, and are just gonna let go by ending to so early. Good thing at least some are permanently shutting down
If they really want to send a message, they should come to the fediverse.
good 💙
Hit them where it hurts the most!
thanks for using Leebra!
go to feed...
This was precisely the wrong thing for him to say if he wanted that to happen
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