What is the easy way to share jellyfin over the internet? Portforwarding doesn't work for me cause I don't have a static ip address
EDIT: I thank all the answers but none of them seem actually easy
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Nugget 28 points 3 years ago
The issue of dynamic IP addresses is solved using a service like DuckDNS. Space Invader has some tutorials on it: https://youtu.be/CS72kN2c6hU
Salix 19 points 3 years ago
There is also ddns-updater which I like to use in docker
SaltySalamander 6 points 3 years ago
Run Opnsense or pfSense and do that from your firewall.
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mp3 13 points 3 years ago
I just use a free dynamic DNS provider (ie: DuckDNS), and most home routers are able to publish IP address changes to that DNS, otherwise you just need a small software to publish those change, which you can do ok the server hosting Jellyfin.
mp3 2 points 3 years ago
You'll also need to do some port forwarding at the home router level so that external users can reach the server.
You'll preferably want to do what's called a DHCP reservation so that your server's internal IP address remains the same, then do a port forward from your public port 8096 to internalIP:8096. That way, you just have to point someone outside of your network to hostname.duckdns.org:8096 (which will get resolved to your current public IP address) for your Jellyfin server.
BaroqueInMind 13 points 3 years ago
Purchase a domain and host it with a reverse proxy to your internal net.
CalicoJack 7 points 3 years ago
You don't even need to purchase a domain, free dynDNS services (DuckDNS or similar) are good enough for Jellyfin and the like.
BaroqueInMind 14 points 3 years ago
Free services always have some kind of dubious hidden product they are selling elsewhere about you to someone else, because network hardware is not free, network system maintenance is not free, internet access is not free. Facebook is free, yet we all know what it's true cost is.
nickiam2 11 points 3 years ago
The easiest way is to setup tailscale on the server, then share the server with the web interface. Your friends/family simply install the tailscale client, login, and it just connects like magic. No port forwarding or firewall configuration required. There's plenty of how-tos out there.
tailscale.com
YIj54yALOJxEsY20eU 5 points 3 years ago
Not the simplest to set up, to make accessible, to secure, or for everyone else to use? This solution is a pretty reasonable one considering all four.
MonkderZweite 7 points 3 years ago
VPN. Wireguard is pretty easy.
gears 5 points 3 years ago
I wouldn't bother with a paid dynamic DNS. Most domain registrars let you change your DNS record with an API call (I know GoDaddy does because I use them.)
Then you just set up a cron job to fetch your IP and then change your DNS record to match. I use a subdomain because my main domain hosts a blog and some other stuff on a VPS, while my jellyfin server is at home.
A good search would be "[registrar name] dynamic DNS script"
AVeryCleverName 1 point 3 years ago
How frequently does your cronjob run?
nolight 1 point 3 years ago
I've set up a cloudflare tunnel, all you need is a domain. It forwards my local Jellyfin instance to the public web, and is easy to get started with. I'm not sure how secure it is though, so I would appreciate any advice from more enlightened pirates.
MigratingtoLemmy 1 point 3 years ago
Run a VPS as a VPN server with ports forwarded. Run a VPN client on your router to forward Internet facing traffic from Jellyfin to said VPN tunnel. Essentially, open ports on the VPS instead of your own router. This is conceptually similar to Cloudflare tunnels.
deweydecibel 8 points 3 years ago
Is there an easy, free method of doing this securely and privately (as in masked from the ISP) in a way that doesn't involve me having to manage the network of the person I'm sharing with?
For example, I can use Tailscale for free, but then I have to make sure my friends know how to use that, and that's a tall order. Not to mention the fact it won't work on things like Roku.
evranch 4 points 3 years ago
VPN and have them punch in to a cheap or free cloud instance that acts as a hub router.
You give them a config file and they feed it to their device or router, use a private subnet in the 10.0.0.0/8 range because everyone is on 192.168.1.0/24 and then they just hit it at 10.0.0.1 or whatever.
I like Wireguard but you might have to use something with layer 2 support if you want service discovery to work for true zero config.
deweydecibel 2 points 3 years ago
All good stuff, but I should clarify, the friends and family in question are not tech literate people. They call the internet "the wifi", get the shitty gateway from Spectrum and plug it in.
Assuming I can apply any sort of configuration to that device in the first place, the second something breaks, either I'm getting a call, or they'll call Spectrum and their rep will reset the gateway to defaults.
I'd also be hesitant to employ a VPN to cloud solution, because I have no idea what that's going to do to the speed.
Basically I was just asking if there was a free method of doing this securely and discreetly where the only thing they ever have to do is put an IP address into Jellyfin. I'm perfectly aware there may not be, I was just curious if there was a method I hadn't heard of.
Something I've kind of thought about is maybe, at least for my parents and closest friend, buying a cheap local machine (or repurposing an old OptiPlex or something) for them to keep in the house that I would mirror my library to, or least be able to manage remotely. "Sure, mom, you wanna see this? I'll tell your box to fetch it."
YIj54yALOJxEsY20eU 2 points 3 years ago
You have to expose it to the internet if you don't want your users to have to configure a vpn. Ensure good passwords and consider running a rate limiter.
Too keep hidden from ISP, you can use tailscale funnel.
deweydecibel 2 points 3 years ago
Ok cool, didn't realize they'd added this.
If they can find a solution for Android not being able to run Tailscale and a different VPN at the same time, I'd finally be able to commit to it fully.
whatwhatwutyut 1 point 3 years ago
It isn't free, but I use a seedbox for running my Plex server. That way none of the media downloading is done on our local internet, all the ISP should see is that we are streaming data from a Plex server. They'd have no knowledge on if we own that data or not. I'm sure Jellyfin can also easily be run from a seedbox
Having a seedbox is also helpful because our internet has a pretty low upload speed, which would make watching anything outside the house a massive pain.
Lumilias 30 points 3 years ago
I still think one of the craziest examples of multiplatform streaming being required is from Pokemon. They have a whole guide on how to watch every season:
Edit: oh, and this is AFTER the death of Pokemon TV, their own streaming service lol.
brbposting 8 points 3 years ago
Unbelievable.
Reminds me a bit about how Weird Al was able to get a whole album worth of music videos funded by spreading them out across various platforms.
But that was clever and creative. This is just goofy.
deweydecibel 3 points 3 years ago
It's more the result of there not being much demand for the entire 20 year run of Pokemon, so they didn't bother keeping them packaged together. Otherwise they'd have priced it accordingly, and the services may not have wanted it at that price.
It's like how classic Doctor Who and current Doctor Who weren't packaged together: the demand for one was diff than the other, so it made sense to let streaming services only pay for the one their customers wanted most.
bhamlin 5 points 3 years ago
A huge part of that is season 1 of FLCL is two decades and entire production companies apart. It's likely entirely down to a matter of how difficult it is to get rights for anime. Cartoon network was involved in the two new HD seasons, and is much easier to deal with that Gainax.
neshura 2 points 3 years ago
It's what happens when the devs have to spend more time making sure the DRM works than actually improving the UX of the platform. Pirates/Non-DRM users don't have that problem hence small FOSS projects can outclass big Streaming Services in UX quality.
machinaeZER0 1 point 3 years ago
TIL there's more than one season of FLCL - loved that show back in the day. Is the new stuff good?
zalgotext 1 point 3 years ago
I've only seen the first season lol. Planning on starting the second tonight. Apparently there's a 4th and 5th season as well that I'm just learning about, so 2 and 3 must have gone well!
Radicaldog 1 point 3 years ago
Not really
Nouveau_Burnswick 26 points 3 years ago
I think it should be streaming.
Netflix etc. should be creaking, like streaming but slower, less content, less pressure, etc.
starman2112 9 points 3 years ago
But ironically that isn't the same as streaming
antipiratgruppen 5 points 3 years ago
So does Stremio
ILikeBoobies 13 points 3 years ago
Streaming would work
saltynuts420 12 points 3 years ago
Piraming 💀
CoffeePorter 11 points 3 years ago
Planking.
Sensitivezombie 9 points 3 years ago
Sailing
CaptainBasculin 6 points 3 years ago
Strailing could work well. A combination of streaming and sailing, as in sailing the high seas.
Crack0n7uesday 48 points 3 years ago
I just go to 9anime, whoever runs that site is a golden god. They got all the anime, a shit ton of manga and it's all free.
guiguinofake 3 points 3 years ago
Isn't 9anime called aniwave now?
saltynuts420 -7 points 3 years ago
I got like 100 sites like 9 anime .... They all source their anime and manga from like 5-6 sources ... I have so many cos I like trying out new UIs and many of them are quite creative with their website design (I use UBO so no ads or popups tho)
RacoonVegetable 41 points 3 years ago
Heck yeah! Jellyfin FTW!!!
fishbone 20 points 3 years ago
Thank you for giving me just enough curiosity to look up what Jellyfin is. I've been wanting to set up a media server but lost interest quick when I realized Plex seems to have completely moved away from being a media server program. I'm so stoked to give it a proper try.
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jellyfin
Website: https://jellyfin.org/
octopus_ink 10 points 3 years ago
Give it a try.
I was a Plex early adopter. Left Plex for Jellyfin when the Jellyfin project was barely a year old because it was clear where Plex was heading. (Emby was another option then, but they made some decisions I couldn't abide so I skipped right over them)
0 regrets, and even my non-technical spouse and two children have no problem with it.
Everyone's got their opinions, but the one guy slagging off Jellyfin below sounds like he's never actually used it.
emergencybird 8 points 3 years ago
I setup jellyfin plus the arr stack on an rpi4 and man has that little thing changed my life, all the content I could ever want just for the cost of a Usenet provider. Hope you enjoy man!
fishbone 2 points 3 years ago
How's the rpi4 as a media server? I wanted to do that too, but i looked into it when the 3B was new and the general consensus was that it wasn't really ideal.
As an aside, raspberry pi's are so cool. My rpi3b running retropie/ emulation station turned out so great, and it runs way more games than I expected.
MaggiWuerze 2 points 3 years ago
realized Plex seems to have completely moved away from being a media server program
It is still a great media server no mater what the Jellyfin fanclub says. Jellyfin is great, but from a user experience perspective it's just not in the same league as something as polished as Plex and if your userbase is not just IT workers and FOSS enthusiasts (or you enjoy a good looking and working UI) Plex is the place to go.
YIj54yALOJxEsY20eU 7 points 3 years ago
if your userbase is not just IT workers and FOSS enthusiasts (...) Plex is the place to go.
What does this even mean? My 6 year old niece uses jellyfin, it's actually simpler than netflix. I may be biased because I'm not into frills but I think the UI looks great. I've admittedly had a few non-critical bugs with the UI (web, flatpak, android, roku) but most all of them have been worked out now. Plex is more polished and has a much larger ecosystem like you said, but the rest of this comment is not the most reasonable.
fishbone 4 points 3 years ago
First and foremost, I don't know or particularly care about fanclub opinions as a whole. Not trying to be rude or anything, but it's weird to tell me that A is great despite what B fans tell me when I never even heard a word from B fans to begin with.
I've looked briefly into plex recently, which seems bloated with services and monetization that I don't want or care about (even the help articles are written like ads), and I've looked at the 3 websites for Jellyfin that I linked, and Jellyfin seems like a more clear cut and feature rich version of what plex started out as, which was primarily a media server program.
NotSteve_ 3 points 3 years ago
I have a large amount of users on my Jellyfin instance including people who are more tech illiterate and nobody has had any issues. The setup of Jellyfin is probably more complicated than Plex (just guessing, I haven't tried it) but besides that, the UI is very user friendly
Radicaldog 3 points 3 years ago
I've only used Jellyfin, but I struggle to imagine Plex being much easier - it was a piece of piss to just run the installer and point at my folders. Complexity only comes when doing stuff like making it available over the internet.
MaggiWuerze 3 points 3 years ago
Or if you want to use hardware encoding. Which Plex manages to setup by itself as long as you have a device capable of it. Jellyfin Hardware encoding for me has been so much tinkering with so little success and even then it only worked for a short while or only a small subset of my library.
roterabe 1 point 3 years ago
No, thank you for making me get out of bed to set it up on my server.
The mobile app is so much better. Plex works better on LG WebOS, but I'd say it's on equal footing on Google TV.
Tailscale also seemed to work perfectly fine for remote access.
GuidoMancipioni 24 points 3 years ago
Okay, thanks to this post I just discovered Jellyfin and though I haven't even downloaded it yet because I'm on mobile, i tabbed back over here from reading their description page to thank you for this.
I've been looking for other solutions but none of them seemed to be incredibly well supported or implemented
BearOfaTime 28 points 3 years ago
Yea, Plex requiring an internet connect just to stream locally tells me all I need to know about them.
Zachariah 7 points 3 years ago
If I understand correctly, it was originally implemented when they made it so you could use ssl to access your media without any configuration or cost: https://www.plex.tv/...
I also think you can watch locally without logging in, but, it’s a less than ideal way of doing it: https://www.plexopedia.com/...
Unfortunately, the biggest red flag about Plex is that they now offer their own streaming media. That means they’re in bed with media companies which is at odds with the goals and needs of the original fans and users of Plex servers.
When I saw the first slow steps Plex’s encruddification, I was relieved to find out Jellyfin exists. I wish it had more features, but it’s being actively developed and totally usable already. Also, I’m not a fan of the name, but that’s a stupid thing to complain about.
LordKitsuna 6 points 3 years ago
I'm still waiting for it to be up to par, I have jellyfin on the server and I check it maybe once a month with the latest version but it still fails miserably with my library.
It's a very clean high organized library managed by sonarr. All Files are in
"series name (year) > Season xx > series name SxxExx (episode title)"
format and yet it still just fails miserably at matching so much of my content (its a rather massive library) especially on anime. Half the time I have to manually match it, and I have to use the Japanese title in order to pull up the English metadata, because that makes sense.
Playback also just... Fails for no reason on tons of my devices. It's been getting better recently but until it's on par with Plex I am not leaving sadly
LordKitsuna 3 points 3 years ago
Yeah no, i don't have the time I've got my own shit to do. My Plex system is almost entirely automated. Ombi let's me request a show with a single tap, sonarr finds it from my sources, sends that to transmission, then once it's download imports it and puts symlinks with proper naming into the library folders. And then plex properly matches up the metadata.
AdmiralShat 3 points 3 years ago
If you have any issues, the selfhosted community is always willing to help, and they never berate you for beginner/entry level questions.
GuidoMancipioni 0 points 3 years ago
I appreciate the help, for sure! I'm a network-centered IT guy, so I'm pretty confident in my ability to get it going with enough effort directed at it, but being that I'm already a member of the self hosted community, i know how helpful everyone can be there in regards to making things a lot easier.
TrickDacy 19 points 3 years ago
I finally got jellyfin working and I gotta say the UI is better than Plex in most ways, and it mostly works, but it is just a little glitchy at times. As one example, the auto play next episode feature has never worked in my browser. It will just stay stuck on "0 seconds until next episode starts". That and for some reason I had trouble getting it setup on my streaming device on the same network.. Local hostname wouldn't work. Said it couldn't find any servers locally on my network, so I had to use my IP address. So when (not if) that IP changes I'll have to troubleshoot.
Once they smooth out issues like that, I may ditch Plex even though I paid for it.
silentdon 8 points 3 years ago
it couldn't find any servers locally on my network, so I had to use my IP address. So when (not if) that IP changes I'll have to troubleshoot.
One workaround that I can think of is to use ip reservation to give your devices the same ip address whenever they connect. You might find that setting under DHCP on your router. Or just use a static ip on the server.
VerbTheNoun95 4 points 3 years ago
I’d be very surprised if it can’t do DHCP. If it still can’t, you could always find a cheap router to use as an access point and have DHCP that way.
antipiratgruppen 2 points 3 years ago
In that case, you can ask your ISP to set their router to bridge-mode, to disable most of its features, before connecting your own router to it.
fruitSnackSupreme 6 points 3 years ago
Yea I tried jellyfin, but I went back to Plex. Too many specific features on Plex that I got used to, that Jellyfin doesn't have.
Blue_Morpho 1 point 3 years ago
What was it missing?
fruitSnackSupreme 1 point 3 years ago
Easy remote support was the main one. Phone app? Ability to easily add family members without too much config. Mainly was ease of remote access.
cyberpunk007 4 points 3 years ago
One other thing that sucks is lack of cast support on finamp and 90% of the time when I reopen the app it's lost the progress of what I was listening to. Ui is worse than plexamp but a long shot imo.
SaltySalamander 3 points 3 years ago
Static IP that shit.
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owen 3 points 3 years ago
Me when I find that perfect rip: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ivzSZ9FzsFk
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KuroeNekoDemon 7 points 3 years ago
Spill the tea I want the open secrets
Petter1 7 points 3 years ago
I guess he’s talking about the Usenet, a way to get your warez via direct download from a Usenet provider. This makes it possible to pirate legally with blazing fast speed (like 5 to 10 min for 4k movies) and with the right Indexers, you can find any release existing in predb 😎
cyberpunk007 11 points 3 years ago
I feel like I've always missed something with Usenet. Like I don't fully understand it. I understand what newsgroups were back in the day I think - basically forums hosted by your ISP and people broke files into segments to spread them across posts or whatever, then you'd combine them and have a file. These would be super fast because it's over your link to your ISP, but I don't get how it's still alive and well and not taken down.
Petter1 3 points 3 years ago
Attentions oversimplified:
The usenet is a network of servers in which each has file snippets that have a ID. All the servers sync their file snippet database so that all servers have all the snippets (some prune older snippets).
You then make a subscription at one of of those server provider and are then allowed to download those snippets.
Your downloader gets a map with the info which snippets to get and how to add them to get a file
Those maps (NZBfiles) you get from indexers (preferably private ones), similar as it is with torrents.
The usenet was created and used to fight censorship in 1980 only intended for text at first, but later it was discovered, that one can use this protocol for file sharing as well. It is hard to take down because of it’s decentralized design.
It is like the the prehistoric blockchain, lol
uninvitedguest 5 points 3 years ago
Legally? 🤔
Or do you mean to say that a VPN isn't strictly required?
Petter1 4 points 3 years ago
Yes, downloading aka receiving copyright protected stuff is not illegal in my country, only the act of sharing aka uploading copyright protected stuff in order that it is available for other people, is illegal. You are even allowed to share copyright protected stuff with your "close circle of friends" And that is why we don’t need a vpn to download from the usenet
el_eh_chase -12 points 3 years ago
You're no fan of us? Cause our movie and TV shows are so amateur?
Edit: I guess they're aren't many Classified fans on Lemmy
photonic_sorcerer 9 points 3 years ago
Movie singular?
KuroeNekoDemon 5 points 3 years ago
I mean...tbh...half the shit I find on our local networks isn't that interesting tbh...
MrCookieRespect 3 points 3 years ago
Ok but what about streaming them in the seas media group?
ModernRisk 1 point 3 years ago
I hear a lot about Jellyfin, may I ask what it exactly is?
Is it like a library of the things, you have downloaded?
I currently just download shows and put them in folders like “MHA S6” and then proceed to watch with VLC.
KuroeNekoDemon 1 point 3 years ago
It's like Plex but free and open source
Mongostein 1 point 3 years ago
How do I grant Jellyfin access to an external drive on Ubuntu?
SeducingCamel 1 point 3 years ago
Anyone know how to get subs to work properly on jellyfin, specifically on a Google TV client? About half of my content has nonnembedded subs with the sub file in its own folder, I can't use subs for those shows, they just don't appear
SeducingCamel 1 point 3 years ago
Thanks ill try this out, think my file names differ
thanks for using Leebra!
go to feed...
And it's easy to share your server with friends and relatives so that they don't have to go through the same process to watch these shows.
I was sharing my Netflix account with my mom and dad, now that I can't without paying more, I just pulled the plug on that subscription and add the shows they want to my server.
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