this has helped me realize the unhealthy relationship I had with Reddit and was a good way to break that

Exactly, now that I have an unhealthy relationship with Lemmy I can't put effort into the one with Reddit.

Same. Replacing doom scrolling on Reddit with posting on beehaw.

Well, give young people some credit, though. Mostly they're the ones that have been closing their subs and migrating here and working to develop FOSS software like Lemmy. I say this as someone in my late 30s.

I'm probably going to delete my account or at least cut back drastically on my usage, but I'm currently the only active mod for a small fan sub for an old fantasy book series. I don't really want to leave that sub unmoderated but I'll have to find another user willing to take on mod duties before I feel alright abandoning Reddit altogether.

It won't be the last time reddit fucks up. And everytime they do, more people will come this way, especially as this place gets better and better

I wonder how much of this caving in was, because a lot of lame mods were worried about losing their past time and or control over large communities.

There are a lot of little Lukashenkos out there that will immediately cave to a bully as long as they’re allowed to remain in control.

I’m happy to stay on lemmy. Just like mastodon, it had a boy that will fade but then I think it will continue to grow.

I deleted my Reddit account on 6/12 and they just simply didn't process it. Losers

It’s disappointing seeing people cave so quickly when under the slightest inconvenience.

The whole protest was slacktivism of the highest order. Minimum effort, minimum results.

I've heard about Reddit removing a mod from a popular subreddit, then turning the subreddit public (sorry, don't have the reference). They can always stop the blackout by force. But once they do that, those mods will have definite incentive to start the communities in the fediverse.

old.reddit.com isn’t going anywhere

"We are keeping it right here on our servers and it's not going over the internet to your browser."

Once old Reddit goes leaving is not a matter of choice for me.

Cannot be done for lawyercat reasons.

I can't say for sure, but I suspect they are trying to push nsfw in-house for the sake of monetizing it. Nsfw drives quite a bit of traffic, and with the falling out of Imgur, Reddit itself has become the primary host. They just can't say their intentions publicly because Reddit has a bit of problem with non-consensual material.

Man, I read your word vomit like 4 times, I believe you are right about all of it.

I read all of the apps threads about why they're quitting on the 30th, for Apolo which has already charged its users he would have to foot the costs the whole time until the next subscription re-up for many/most of his users, and we're supposed to believe the reddit guys?

For others, even the ones that want to make it work with added subscriptions, the lack of full reddit access via the API makes one wonder, what's the point of even trying?

Reddit has been an awful site for nearly 20 years, the only thing that made it usable was third party apps.

I'm not sure I'm going to miss it, I hated it before 3PA, and I'm willing to hate it again now.

The only thing I'm going to miss is world news updates and stuff that is here, the volume is basically muted in comparison.

I agree with everything you’ve said and that it is disappointing. I do think there is merit in continuing to protest and send a message.

However, I don’t think there’s anything that can move the Reddit leadership team back. Because even if they went back on this API issue, the continued process of the degradation of reddit as a service has been a long term thing. It seems to me that the Fidelity downgrade of their evaluation has pushed them even further down this path.

I truly am done with them. Even if they come back from all this, what’s left there? Somebody else pointed out that over the year, generally interactions became more unfriendly on reddit, spam and changes to the algorithm increasingly pushed away from the platform we all loved.

I see this situation and how it was so exacerbated by Spez and the leaderships absolute failure as a blessing. There’s a lot of alternative ways to spend time on the internet, to connect and learn. Beehaw has been really good to me the last couple days, I am excited for a future here and ready to not contribute toward the mess that reddit has become anymore.

What the big subreddits don't realise is, on Fediverse many of their subreddits have not yet been recreated. If they don't do it, someone else will and then they come in as just contributors. So may be in their interests to actually establish a presence, and gauge how much take-up they get.

I was wondering if I should delete all or leave some of my posts, but seeing subs I subscribed to come back was what made me decide to just wipe everything. Can't do anything about the mods or what other users do, so felt like deleting stuff was the one tiny bit of control I had over the situation. Which itself is nothing, but at least it's something.

I have started calling the mods of those subreddit "Scabs"

I also bet there are people who haven't already left that will abandon ship once the TPAs stop working. It's not going to be fun getting stuck with their mediocre app, particularly since they seem to be testing the end of the mobile site.

Stayed off Reddit completely for the last 2 days but checked back in in a couple of the smaller subs I browse today. But I have found I am checking back in here on Lemmy more even now that all the Reddit subs I usually post in are back open. This really feels like a viable alternative to me.

I decided to jump before I was pushed and binned off Apollo the weekend before the strikes started. This place existing made that jump a lot easier I think!

Hi welcome. Have fun with it! It's new, it's exciting. It's less developed but that just leaves tons of room for growth and polish! Reddit was over saturated and stagnant. Embrace the relatively empty pond!

I tried the official app a few times before the api announcement and can't stand it. I'm supporting the blackout and if RIF dies, I will be done with reddit for good. I will miss the mass amount of knowledge.

I put the Lemmy web app shortcut where my Rif app used to be on my phone, so my muscle memory from always opening up rif has me going to lemmy instead. I've barely been looking at reddit at all and really enjoying seeing these lemmy communities grow. Once rif is gone I don't plan to use reddit at all (aside from the occasional specific Google search for "specific question reddit") and I don't think I'll miss it.

This was a predicted outcome, at least for the larger subreddits. Expect to hear much more of this in the coming couple of days.

Gods of the Internet, with this offering I ask you to summon Cerf, Torvalds, and Stallman so that they may witness this curse. By the spirits of my ancestors I curse Reddit. Let its profits wither. Let its networks crack. Let it see its legions of users disperse. Gods of the Inferno, I offer to you its networks, its mouthpiece, its servers, its "free" speech, its hands, its liver, its black heart, its stomach. Gods of the Inferno, let me see Reddit suffer deeply, and I will rejoice and sacrifice to you.

Welp. Wish I could say I was surprised. Time for the handful of power mods still licking admin boots to get even more subs under their belt, I guess. No way that could possibly end badly...

On many subreddits that have polls, it seems like a majority favor keeping their subs open. It seems like the userbase is generally ambivalent or even hostile towards the protest at large.

It seems problematic to have a poll to about boycotting when those actively boycotting won't be there to participate.

Yeah I don't have a strong opinion about whole API access controversy but it does spark a greater debate about how we let centralized services like Reddit subsume the Internet forum culture of old. Of course, Reddit in many ways is a superior product to the decentralized forums of old (you only need one account to post) but at the same time, this whole protest has proven especially damaging to people who rely heavily on Reddit as a resource for support (like the mental health subreddits, the chronic disease ones, etc.).

Agreed. I left Reddit for a couple of years ago and just recently came back and was surprised at how much it had changed. I still found enough of the old Reddit with some niche subs but yeah, it's changed.

They've now added that "non-commercial" qualifier to accessibility apps and mod tools. So they're totally cool with 3rd parties adding value to their platform. As long as all of the revenue resulting from that unpaid work goes straight to Reddit.

I like how they state the following:

As of July 1, 2023, we are increasing the API limits for our free API usage from 60 to 100 Queries Per Minute for those using OAuth authentication.

They're making it sound like they're increasing the rate limit, whereas they're actually changing it from 60 queries per user per application per minute to 100 queries per application per minute. So if you had a 3rd party app with 1000 users, you'd have 60 queries each minute for every single user, now all those 1000 users will have to share 100 queries each minute (so that'd be 1 query per user every 10 minutes), unless the app developer is willing to pay up.

This is now going to end up costing them more money cause they'll have to police the usage of thier api with all these exceptions lol

The site is being astroturfed by bots as well. So many FirstWordSecondWordBunchaNumbers comments that are all exactly the same trying to pin this on the mods.

Reddit has been caught astroturfing their site before, multiple times. It's just not been reported on because it usually doesn't happen in English, or happened when the site was small and young. Except for the admin moderated subs like r/programming. Seriously just go read the Controversial comments in those posts. It's blatant ChatGPT spam.

There are entire alternate language versions of big subreddits filled with nothing but reposts of popular old posts run through a translator. Comments section and all.

SubredditSimulator was fun as an experiment but it's clear they'll artificially prop their engagement and I really hope advertisers catch on. If you're a journalist in tech reading this, you've got a hell of a story to break about a top ten website fluffing up its stats for an illicit IPO grab.

I think the big subreddits especially fear starting all over again from scratch ;-) I have a smaller subreddit and am thinking of just closing it anyway. I already post on Beehaw but into different public groups.

I believe now more than ever that any site that revolves around a community should be in the hands of said community and not corporations or else this eventually happens

This is how it used to be before the internet for most people basically became five websites run by enormous faceless data mines. Forums/bulletin boards/IRC channels used to be run by the community for the community and in my opinion the internet was better for it. Sure you’d get the odd flame war or power-tripping mod, but it was super common for a large portion of the community to just up sticks and start a new forum somewhere else if it became too much of a problem. Then Reddit killed most of the hobbyist forums stone dead. There’s nothing to go back to so we have to start fresh. But honestly, I’m here for it. I’m tired of being the product for a bunch of advertisers. Take me back to 2004.

We need democracy online. Down with the unelected aristocracy!

Overwrite all your comments with “move to beehaw!”

I don't know what kind of comments and posts you've made on Reddit, but if any of them are technical how-to's or something that may come up when people search for specific problems, then it might be good to leave those comments, or else just prefix each comment with your "purged" message instead of overwriting them entirely. I mean if it's fun memes or discussions, then you do you 😅 I'm just thinking of the tale of DenverCoder9. Plus, it probably costs more for Reddit to store a longer comment than a shorter one! Pennies or less, but still!

I agree completely. I don’t care if people go back to reddit, I don’t care if they even reverse some of their decisions, the damage is done for me. I’ll look forward to a new future here and elsewhere on the internet.

My first day off Reddit, I had severe withdrawal. I kept trying to launch Boost (my third party Reddit app of choice) despite not really wanting to. Thankfully, a focus app I installed for just this reason stopped me. I eventually moved the app shortcut and put Jerboa in its place so that muscle memory took me to Lemmy instead.

By the second day, the withdrawal wasn't as bad. I did miss some things, but I was starting to realize how little I really cared about much of it.

By now, Lemmy has replaced about 40% of my Reddit usage. Another 50% I've deemed not important enough to replace. I now have only one subreddit that I really miss. I've found a Lemmy alternative, but of course Reddit has a bigger community.

That one remaining subreddit is still dark. (I tried to see how many subscribers it had and saw it was still dark. I wasn't going to read any posts if it had gone back online.) If it comes back, I might stick around there, but I'll also stay on Lemmy and will push this as a Reddit replacement. (I think Jerboa and Lemmy have some rough edges that need to be improved upon before they can truly be a replacement, but they are surprisingly close.)

I went back yesterday night to check out the Starfield sub and was surprised at how little interest I felt in even skimming the comments in case there were interesting theories. I grabbed the Imgur albums for screenshots I wanted to look at and left. the fediverse is my place now. :)

Left wing queer safe shitposting

It began on reddit as the general sub for the college dorm #196 at some university, one thing lead to another, and now it's a meme sub which exists everywhere.

I think a more realistic implication is that big chunk of reddit content is bots and propagandists.

It's probably a mix of both. Er, what exactly happened to those subs?

I wouldn't sweat it, though. Reddit will never recover from the events of the last two days. They'll be bleeding users from now on.

What happened to those subs? Admin takeover?

I was impressed with the honesty of the /r/tumblr mod who told the community the only reason they weren't blacking out was because they thought they might get removed and they wanted to keep their "job". Way to make the community hate you Just found out that that mod changed their mind and decided to go dark anyway, and was promptly removed by Reddit. Well, I guess they did see it coming!

I think a lot of subreddits will fold. Your typical reddit moderator is hungry for power and having that power taken away from them is probably more terrifying to them than losing Apollo/RIF/BaconReader/Sync/Relay.

Then let them stay in their Reddit fiefdoms and far away from the Fediverse.

Me too, now I get to reflexively open Lemmy instead! Yay!

Same!

Meh - maybe Reddit will live on, maybe it’ll die. It’s immaterial and worrying about it is a waste of energy. What we need to concentrate on is keeping the forward momentum going and making Lemmy into a truly viable alternative. The rest will follow.

A lake doesn't empty in a day even after the dam bursts. This will take time, but they lost a sizeable chunk of their mods and content creators, the users follow the content they like. Lemmy has grown to a point now where it is starting to get noticed and the press around reddit continues to get worse. Stay here, keep making content, keep telling others how to join. This can happen.

programming.dev is a great instance for you then!

There is a LEGO community there https://lemmy.world/c/lego

What's the Lego place? I want to hop over there. Also if we could get the Phoenix Trainworks guy that'd be great.

Could you share that tool? Seems useful

Cool, I think I'll do the same. I wasn't popular or super active but hey, doin' my part

I for one, will most definitely not be doing this. Reddit was such a vital part of the internet during the mid-2010's to early 2020's... it would be a shame it all that history was permanently lost.

I will, however, likely not be going back. I've actually really wanted to take part in a decentralized social community like this for a long time, and I am very excited about what the federation brings to the table, and about the role that Lemmy fills in that network. In a world where the internet seems so much to focus on what is currently going on now, I reckon not contributing to Reddit anymore will have a much greater long-term impact than nuking my previous content, and will allow me to leave my piece of internet history intact on their archive.

Thank you, just ran this over my account. I didnt delete comments, just edited them to say I've moved to lemmy :)

Though this community is not extra-dextra-large, there's still a lot of posts and comments about Reddit - so much so that before we started doing the megathreads, it was clogging up the local feed and preventing people from seeing other posts. Even in general, because !technology is such a big community on Beehaw, subscribing to it drowns out a lot of the other content we have.

I saw that, too, while I was there posting my final post explaining where to find me to any of my reddit friends who want to find me

What's weird is I didn't actually delete this comment. But it shows I deleted it? Strange maybe a mod removed it and it's just a bad message.

That’s so funny. I deleted my app - what’s happening on the other side?

Does that include your saved posts? That's what I'm worried about losing the most.

If they replace protesting mods then the communities can just overload the new mods until they restrict the sub (again). The real problem is people giving up (which just so aligns with what reddit wants). Personally, that's the reason why I'm leaving because apparently a lot of people genuinely thought that a 2-day blackout would cut it. Yeah, right.